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Pix of ranch country.

Jinglebob

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nr said:
lazy ace said:
Jinglebob said:
Close to Manderson, SD.

North of Ogalla, SD.

South of Rockyford, SD.

Get out your map. :wink:

It's about 2 to 2 and a half hours, south southwest of me.

East of Olerichs and a little north.

That help? :D

That is as clear as mud. Sadly enough I think those are standard South Dakota directions.

have a cold one (the directions make more sense.)

lazy ace

Can you imagine trying to find your direction in that country with no landmarks before it was "well-settled"! :? :shock: I like directions that say turn left at the Dunkin Donuts. :D

If someone wanted to find this place, they could have with just one or two of these.

Where this feller ranches, there sure ain't any dunkin' donuts!

:lol:

I thinkit would have been pretty easy to find him, years ago. Look at all the cattle that found the cowtowns, with very little information.

You would be amazed how easy it is to find people in this country, nr. After all, there are a lot less of us then there are of you, back there. :)
 

Jinglebob

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Liberty Belle said:
Jinglebob, are you sure you weren't lost? This sure looks like our country around the Slim Buttes and Cave Hills.

Yup, I'm sure I wasn't lost. :)

Remember, I used to be a fieldman and a brand inspector. I've been all over Western SD and into southeastern MT and southwestern ND. I know where lots of people live. :wink:

How could I get lost? I had an ocean on either side of me? :???:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

nr

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Jinglebob said:
You would be amazed how easy it is to find people in this country, nr. After all, there are a lot less of us then there are of you, back there. :)

You made a good point, JB, besides the one on your head.

About being a brand inspector. Does this mean you went to each ranch and had to look at all the cattle? :shock: :???: How on earth could that work? Pardon my (usual) ignorance.
 

Jinglebob

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nr said:
Jinglebob said:
You would be amazed how easy it is to find people in this country, nr. After all, there are a lot less of us then there are of you, back there. :)

You made a good point, JB, besides the one on your head.

About being a brand inspector. Does this mean you went to each ranch and had to look at all the cattle? :shock: :???: How on earth could that work? Pardon my (usual) ignorance.

I was a local inspector. When someone sold an animal in the country,and not thru' a sale barn or auction barn, where there is always a full time brand inspector, they called me and I went and made sure it had the proper brands or bill of sale, before the new owner paid for it.

Mostly when someone sold a horse to a neighbor or when they shipped the calves or yearlings in the fall.

During the big fall runs, when a lot of livestock was being sold thru' the sale barns, sometimes they would have me come and help the full time inspectors. When there are 3000 to 5000 head going thru' a barn and they all have to be inspected in daylight, and the days are gettin' short, sometimes you need quit a few inspectors, to get all the work done.

I, or any other inspector for that matter, would look at every critter that was being sold and make sure they all had the owners legal brand or he had a legal bill of sale, for each animal.

Sometimes you would have to shear the hair off to read the brand. You'd be surprized at how many strays that we found.

Ask Soapweed. I believe he said that the inspectors at a local town found one or two of his.

In most cases, it was a matter of someones critter getting into someone elses pasture and nobody knew it. Very few times was it theft. Tho' that happens too.

But most of those deals, they just load them up and haul them across the river, where there is no inspection. We've tried over the years to get the eastriver to make it part of the brand inspection area, but for some reason, they won't. It causes some friction between eastriver and westriver, here in SD.

Kind of like if you had someone who stole something from you and as long as they got across a certain line, they could keep it and you had no re-course, under the law.

Don't you wish you hadn't asked, now?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

nr

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Jinglebob said:
nr said:
Jinglebob said:
You would be amazed how easy it is to find people in this country, nr. After all, there are a lot less of us then there are of you, back there. :)

You made a good point, JB, besides the one on your head.

About being a brand inspector. Does this mean you went to each ranch and had to look at all the cattle? :shock: :???: How on earth could that work? Pardon my (usual) ignorance.

I was a local inspector. When someone sold an animal in the country,and not thru' a sale barn or auction barn, where there is always a full time brand inspector, they called me and I went and made sure it had the proper brands or bill of sale, before the new owner paid for it.

Mostly when someone sold a horse to a neighbor or when they shipped the calves or yearlings in the fall.

During the big fall runs, when a lot of livestock was being sold thru' the sale barns, sometimes they would have me come and help the full time inspectors. When there are 3000 to 5000 head going thru' a barn and they all have to be inspected in daylight, and the days are gettin' short, sometimes you need quit a few inspectors, to get all the work done.

I, or any other inspector for that matter, would look at every critter that was being sold and make sure they all had the owners legal brand or he had a legal bill of sale, for each animal.

Sometimes you would have to shear the hair off to read the brand. You'd be surprized at how many strays that we found.

Ask Soapweed. I believe he said that the inspectors at a local town found one or two of his.

In most cases, it was a matter of someones critter getting into someone elses pasture and nobody knew it. Very few times was it theft. Tho' that happens too.

But most of those deals, they just load them up and haul them across the river, where there is no inspection. We've tried over the years to get the eastriver to make it part of the brand inspection area, but for some reason, they won't. It causes some friction between eastriver and westriver, here in SD.

Kind of like if you had someone who stole something from you and as long as they got across a certain line, they could keep it and you had no re-course, under the law.

Don't you wish you hadn't asked, now?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Thank you for the interesting explanation. Does the seller pay a fine for each wrongly branded critter?
It seems strange that the state govt doesn't require inspection in east river area. Do they have "chop shops" hidden there?!
 

Jinglebob

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nr said:
Thank you for the interesting explanation. Does the seller pay a fine for each wrongly branded critter?

JB replies--Only if it is done for the purpose of stealing a critter, if you have a legal bill of sale and accidentley brand over the top of the critters original brand, it is OK. Just makes it harder to read the brand.

It seems strange that the state govt doesn't require inspection in east river area. Do they have "chop shops" hidden there?!
JB--Not really chop shops so to speak, unless you would consider a butxdher a chop shop.

Legally, anytime you take an animal across the river to the east,you are supposed to have a brand inspection. Also when you bring an animal into the west. My guy from Iowa who brings cattle out here for the summer, uses a legal Iowa brand. He gets a grazing permit, which is basicly a brand inspection, so when he sells them here or takes them home, they have a record of thoses critters with that brand and how they came to be here, in case someone in SD would happen to have the same brand.

It's the same when yo go into any of our surrounding states, that border the western side of SD Tthere is a chance, someone in another state could have the same brand as you do, so it's really best, for your own protection.

Hope this makes it clearer for you.

Many of us here, are not against animal ID. We have had it for years! And it works! And you don't need a wand or a computer to tell each critter and where it came from. It was proven to work, when they found the first case of Mad Cow in Canada and they knew it had herdmates that came into SD. Through the brand inspection dept, we found it in about 3 hours.

I think that was pretty fast, for a dumb ol' bunch of cowboys who just keep track of cattle by brands!
:wink:
 
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Many of us here, are not against animal ID. We have had it for years! And it works! And you don't need a wand or a computer to tell each critter and where it came from. It was proven to work, when they found the first case of Mad Cow in Canada and they knew it had herdmates that came into SD. Through the brand inspection dept, we found it in about 3 hours.

I think that was pretty fast, for a dumb ol' bunch of cowboys who just keep track of cattle by brands!

Amen- And if I remember right it was done on a weekend (Sunday) when you probably couldn't even have found, let alone got a government database computer programmer to work...Ol cowboys been doing it for 100+ years without the "Fedural Guvment" telling us how we have to :wink:
 

nr

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Oldtimer said:
Many of us here, are not against animal ID. We have had it for years! And it works! And you don't need a wand or a computer to tell each critter and where it came from. It was proven to work, when they found the first case of Mad Cow in Canada and they knew it had herdmates that came into SD. Through the brand inspection dept, we found it in about 3 hours.

I think that was pretty fast, for a dumb ol' bunch of cowboys who just keep track of cattle by brands!

Amen- And if I remember right it was done on a weekend (Sunday) when you probably couldn't even have found, let alone got a government database computer programmer to work...Ol cowboys been doing it for 100+ years without the "Fedural Guvment" telling us how we have to :wink:
Reminds me of the saying "don't throw out the old trash until you see if the new trash works."
 

Tap

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Great looking country Jinglebob. I also think that there are some great ranching country within the Reservations in SD.

I went to a fall branding the other day in this neighborhood, and I took some pictures of some neat country along the way. I will have to see if I can get them on here sometime.

We have our last shipping day here tomorrow, and we could not have nicer November weather for doing it in. (low 60's) The other morning on the way to the branding, my pickup thermometer said 4 degrees above for a while, but it was a great day after it warmed up a bit. My sheep lined Tap's felt good that AM. :)
 

Jinglebob

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Tap said:
My sheep lined Tap's felt good that AM. :)

I was wishing mine was "sheep" lined yesterday morning! Got up to 30 something, but it still felt nippy and my toes got a wee bit cold. Sure was a glorious day, today! :D
 

Sagebrush

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What stud are the colts out of? If it is who I think it is, he has some good ones. Have several and they have turned out to be good ranch horses.
 

Jinglebob

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Sagebrush said:
What stud are the colts out of? If it is who I think it is, he has some good ones. Have several and they have turned out to be good ranch horses.

On the yearlings he sent up?

I'm not sure. i'm just workin' with them, not buying them.

Yes, he does have some nice bred studs.

His initials are CC, for a hint. :wink:
 

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