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Sandhusker

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Denny says they're trying to get a debate there in Minnesota between the major organizations. R-CALF has agreed, their state assn maybe, but NCBA declined. SH has said before that he would like to debate R-CALF, I say this is his chance. He can take NCBA's spot and have at R -CALF in a debate forum. If Denny's group will accept him, I'd be more than willing to help pay for SH's travel expenses so he can debate R-CALF.

If 10 or so of us kick in $20, it should take care of his expenses. So, I hereby pledge $20. Who else will do the same?

I return all I ask is for some sort of transcript so we can all read of R-CALF feeding SH his lunch rectally.
 
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Anonymous

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Doesn't R-CALF have a computer?

If R-CALF wants to debate me, they can debate me right here at my convenience.

I don't have to travel around the nation exposing their lies and the reason they can't win a court case when I can do it right here at my convenience.


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Doesn't R-CALF have a computer?

If R-CALF wants to debate me, they can debate me right here at my convenience.

I don't have to travel around the nation exposing their lies and the reason they can't win a court case when I can do it right here at my convenience.


~SH~

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Again, we see what you're made of. How does Agman put it, "All foam and no beef"?
 

Mike

Well-known member
I return all I ask is for some sort of transcript so we can all read of R-CALF feeding SH his lunch rectally.

For $20 bucks I would have see the video of a rectally fed lunch. Not just a transcript. :p :?
 

Econ101

Well-known member
I would pay for the whole thing, but I only want a motel room that fits SH's style of living---I don't want to give him a free vacation.
 

Denny

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
I would pay for the whole thing, but I only want a motel room that fits SH's style of living---I don't want to give him a free vacation.

We don't have Prairie dogs here but I have a woodchuck living in a hole under my barn by a manure pile how would that be...
 
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Anonymous

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Sandbag: "I return all I ask is for some sort of transcript so we can all read of R-CALF feeding SH his lunch rectally."

Hahaha! Yeh, I'm so sure that would happen. ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz!

That statement is so telling. You apparently feel that you are so inept at defending your views that you need someone else to do it for you. Why don't you feed me my lunch rectally little ankle biter??? Don't you know the standard arguments by now or should I say diversionary techniques?

ALL FOAM AND NO BEER!

As if I needed to travel around the country debating R-CALF's backwards positions when I can do it here. As if R-CALF's arguments would have any more validity in person than they do here. AS IF!

You're such an idiot! Yet another desperation post based on nothing but stupidity.

I honestly think you could do a better job of spinning and diverting the questions than Bullard and McDonnell can. You are more slippery than they are. McDonnell tests his audience before he decides whether to present both sides of the position or not. Bullard divets questions and makes statements. Both contradict themselves continually. Dennis McDonald is still hoping everyone will forget what he said in ND about not slaughtering cull cows if we had a native case of BSE.

What would be enjoyable is a public debate in front of a bunch of college students between yourself and Conman vs. Agman and I. That would be hilarious because I'm sure that the worst college student has more common sense than both of you blamers combined.


~SH~
 

HAY MAKER

Well-known member
Sandhusker,you know that damn prarie dog aint gonna get close to a cattle man,we have offered more than once to get him to debate cattle men,bout the closest he gets is his keyboard,cant say as I blame him for that tho :wink: ..................good luck
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
HAY MAKER said:
Sandhusker,you know that damn prarie dog aint gonna get close to a cattle man,we have offered more than once to get him to debate cattle men,bout the closest he gets is his keyboard,cant say as I blame him for that tho :wink: ..................good luck

He's afraid - Bullard would eat him up and spit him out. He knows it. He's had chance after chance to face Bullard or McDonald in his own back yard and he just couldn't make it. Sitting behind a computer screen flinging accusations in the safety of his house is his style - not face to face.
 

HAY MAKER

Well-known member
Yup,that would be good ole sh,its obvious who represents the cattle man,R CALF is our voice,they are the cattle man's group that will bring fairness to the markets.
As I read Denny's post about ncba a no show again I say it proves what I been saying,ncba is alot of things but dumb is not one of them,why would they debate R CALF and get embarassed again,the theory now is as old as the hills "why go prove R calf is right time after time" much better to stay away and spout packer rhetoric from a safe distance,kinda like sh, seems to be their MO...............good luck

PS before you Canadians get your ass in the air,let me make it perfectly clear,I have not and do not support the border being closed,let me ask a simple question,if we were to test all cattle would that not solve several problems? then get on with the real problem passage of M COOL & The captive supply reform act.
Its called "FAIRNESS" think about it .
 
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Anonymous

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Sandbag: "He's afraid - Bullard would eat him up and spit him out. He knows it. He's had chance after chance to face Bullard or McDonald in his own back yard and he just couldn't make it. Sitting behind a computer screen flinging accusations in the safety of his house is his style - not face to face."'

Sandbag carrying on a conversation with Hayseed. If that doesn't take all. Hayseed's probably finishing up his audition for a sequal to "Deliverance".

Just listen to yourself Sandbag. What a childish fool you are.

As if I have nothing better to do with my time and money than follow blamer's meetings around the state and crash them with the facts.

Why do you need Bullard and McDonnell to argue for you? Don't you know R-CALF's "canned statements" by now?

If you think Bullard would hand me my lunch, invite him to debate the issues here at both our convenience and you can watch him divert questions with "canned statements" right here.

Do you honestly believe the arguments will change? You blamers like your little support groups, that's the problem.

I asked Bullard if the Johnson Amendment would negatively impact USPB. He absolutely would not answer the question and many in attendence pointed that out.

Another time I asked Bullard, "if packer concentration and captive supplies is the reason for lower cattle prices, which one of those two factors changed recently to allow prices to go higher". He diverted that one too so I asked the same question again only to have him divert with a differnent statement about some magical 40% captive supply level which he pulled out of thin air. The first diverting answer didn't work so he tried a different one. I knew they wouldn't answer the question but it was enjoyable to listen to them stammer around it and change their answers. Yeh, I just run in fear of Bill Bullard and Leo McDonnell....................ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

You want to see how well their arguments will hold up under scrutiny, why don't you invite Bullard to the forum and watch what happens to R-CALF's lies under the microscope. Bullard and McDonnell don't want to answer tough questions about their positions, they prefer to make statements. That's why Leo wouldn't debate the issues here. He'd rather make statements.

It amazes me that you are so inept at debating R-CALF's position that you rely on them to debate for you. That says it all.

Would you like to debate me publicly Sandbag? Name the place and time. I'll try to fit it into my schedule.

This is just one more of your many childish antics.



~SH~
 

Beefman

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Sandbag: "He's afraid - Bullard would eat him up and spit him out. He knows it. He's had chance after chance to face Bullard or McDonald in his own back yard and he just couldn't make it. Sitting behind a computer screen flinging accusations in the safety of his house is his style - not face to face."'

Sandbag carrying on a conversation with Hayseed. If that doesn't take all. Hayseed's probably finishing up his audition for a sequal to "Deliverance".

I didn't know Haymaker was also an accomplished banjo player. What a talented guy.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Denny's group is a bunch of blamers? You must of missed where he said most didn't belong to either R-CALF or NCBA.

Bullard was in Valentine, McDonald was in Martin. Neither will get any closer to you - you just couldn't seem to find time to attend either event.

You're not even foam, just a cup of hot air.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Beefman said:
~SH~ said:
Sandbag: "He's afraid - Bullard would eat him up and spit him out. He knows it. He's had chance after chance to face Bullard or McDonald in his own back yard and he just couldn't make it. Sitting behind a computer screen flinging accusations in the safety of his house is his style - not face to face."'

Sandbag carrying on a conversation with Hayseed. If that doesn't take all. Hayseed's probably finishing up his audition for a sequal to "Deliverance".

I didn't know Haymaker was also an accomplished banjo player. What a talented guy.


We all knew he was a picker but we only ASSumed what it was he Picked. :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Sandbag: "Denny's group is a bunch of blamers? You must of missed where he said most didn't belong to either R-CALF or NCBA."

Nice deceptive spin job again Sandbag. Wasn't talking about Denny's meeting, I was talking about the blamer's meetings around the country that you think I need to chase.

What's wrong Sandbag, need to hide behind Bullard and McDonnell? Too inept to make the arguments yourself? Don't know the "canned statements" well enough?


Sandbag: "Bullard was in Valentine, McDonald was in Martin. Neither will get any closer to you - you just couldn't seem to find time to attend either event."

NEITHER WAS A DEBATE SANDBAG!

I was not invited to debate Leo or Bill so why would I go just to listen to their lies? I already know what their sermon is going to be.

I ask you again, would you like to debate me publicly? Name the place and time. Neither of us are leaders of an organization, let's you and I present both sides of the argument in a debate. How about it? Hell, you can even invite Leo and Bill to back your diversions.

R-CALF doesn't want to debate the truth, they want to blame and make statements.

So, what say you? Would you like to debate me publicly?



~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
SH, I'm not afraid of you in the least. If you think you could get people to show up for a debate between you and me, go ahead and set it up. Denny has said there would be around 100 people at his meeting, you think you can come close to matching that?

Now, if your expenses were paid for Denny's meeting, would you go?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandbag: "If you think you could get people to show up for a debate between you and me, go ahead and set it up."

You are the one that keeps claiming that I'm afraid to debate in public. YOU SET IT UP!


Sandbag: "Now, if your expenses were paid for Denny's meeting, would you go?"

In case you missed it, Denny said he wanted someone to represent NCBA. I am not an official representative of NCBA.

If my expenses were paid, if it was at a time when I could attend, and if I could debate you at Denny's meeting, yes, I would try to make it work.

I would not be there representing NCBA, I would simply attend to refute R-CALF's backwards positions.

What say you now?



~SH~
 

Sandhusker

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~SH~ said:
Sandbag: "If you think you could get people to show up for a debate between you and me, go ahead and set it up."

You are the one that keeps claiming that I'm afraid to debate in public. YOU SET IT UP!


Sandbag: "Now, if your expenses were paid for Denny's meeting, would you go?"

In case you missed it, Denny said he wanted someone to represent NCBA. I am not an official representative of NCBA.

If my expenses were paid, if it was at a time when I could attend, and if I could debate you at Denny's meeting, yes, I would try to make it work.

I would not be there representing NCBA, I would simply attend to refute R-CALF's backwards positions.

What say you now?



~SH~

I say that I don't care who you represent, officially or non-officially. If Denny's group will have you, I'll chip in for your expenses.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
~SH~ said:
Sandbag: "If you think you could get people to show up for a debate between you and me, go ahead and set it up."

You are the one that keeps claiming that I'm afraid to debate in public. YOU SET IT UP!


Sandbag: "Now, if your expenses were paid for Denny's meeting, would you go?"

In case you missed it, Denny said he wanted someone to represent NCBA. I am not an official representative of NCBA.

If my expenses were paid, if it was at a time when I could attend, and if I could debate you at Denny's meeting, yes, I would try to make it work.

I would not be there representing NCBA, I would simply attend to refute R-CALF's backwards positions.

What say you now?



~SH~

I say that I don't care who you represent, officially or non-officially. If Denny's group will have you, I'll chip in for your expenses.


Why don't you two drive out to Denny's together. That way will will only have one of you when you get back. :wink:
 
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