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Plumber Joe

kolanuraven

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...is gonna end up wishing he'd never heard of Obama or McCain.


He's not a licensed plumber and he's got tax liens against him.


What a great example to use!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Vision

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
...is gonna end up wishing he'd never heard of Obama or McCain.


He's not a licensed plumber and he's got tax liens against him.


What a great example to use!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:


Lies, he has a residential licence but not a commercial one. Once again the haters and lazy media just licked up someones BS without checking the public record.

He is current in the process of getting his commercial license as well as the residential one he already holds.

Nice try....

See how Kola refuses to address the argument that Joe the plumber made and goes directly to attacking HIM?

The Obama campaign is doing the same thing. I bet they go and find every ex-girlfriend he ever had to say stuff about him too.

This is what the left will do to any private citizens who would dare question their nonsense and Kola, always a champion of those who hate and smear, is carrying the flag.
 

kolanuraven

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Vision said:
kolanuraven said:
...is gonna end up wishing he'd never heard of Obama or McCain.


He's not a licensed plumber and he's got tax liens against him.


What a great example to use!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:


Lies, he has a residential licence but not a commercial one. Once again the haters and lazy media just licked up someones BS without checking the public record.

He is current in the process of getting his commercial license as well as the residential one he already holds.

Nice try....

See how Kola refuses to address the argument that Joe the plumber made and goes directly to attacking HIM?

The Obama campaign is doing the same thing. I bet they go and find every ex-girlfriend he ever had to say stuff about him too.

This is what the left will do to any private citizens who would dare question their nonsense and Kola, always a champion of those who hate and smear, is carrying the flag.


I didn't know you knew Joe. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No wonder you have no income. You won't get off this site long enough to get a job!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

VanC

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Vision said:
kolanuraven said:
...is gonna end up wishing he'd never heard of Obama or McCain.


He's not a licensed plumber and he's got tax liens against him.


What a great example to use!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:


Lies, he has a residential licence but not a commercial one. Once again the haters and lazy media just licked up someones BS without checking the public record.

He is current in the process of getting his commercial license as well as the residential one he already holds.

Nice try....

See how Kola refuses to address the argument that Joe the plumber made and goes directly to attacking HIM?

The Obama campaign is doing the same thing. I bet they go and find every ex-girlfriend he ever had to say stuff about him too.

This is what the left will do to any private citizens who would dare question their nonsense and Kola, always a champion of those who hate and smear, is carrying the flag.


I didn't know you knew Joe. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No wonder you have no income. You won't get off this site long enough to get a job!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

You just did it again.
 
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Anonymous

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UPDATE: Joe the Plumber has been confirmed as Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher.

The New York Times has turned up that he is not licensed, either as a plumber or a contractor. Also, Joe claims to be a member of a local plumber’s union on his Facebook page, but a union official says that is not true. As for his attitude toward taxes, Joe has gotten into trouble for not paying them.

There have been some reports that Joe is not even registered to vote. However, it turns out that he is registered in Lucas county, Ohio, but his last name is misspelled (Worzelbacher instead of Wurzelbacher). So ironically his vote would be one that the Republicans are hoping to challenge as invalid.

Other rumors are swirling around Joe. There is some evidence (albeit sketchy) that his uncle was one of the people involved in the Keating Five scandal. Some people even think that Joe was planted by the Republicans, but that seems unlikely.

Finally, and probably most significantly, Joe’s question misrepresents his situation. He stated that he was thinking of buying the plumbing business where he works, which makes $250,000 to $270,000. But that would be income, and businesses (unlike individuals) only pay taxes on profits, which is income minus expenses (expenses include salaries, rent, equipment, utilities, gas, etc.). So under Obama’s plan, that business would almost certainly be eligible for a tax cut. It is worth noting that, according to the GAO, two-thirds of companies are able to use the tax code to make their expenses larger than their income, and thus pay no taxes at all.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
...is gonna end up wishing he'd never heard of Obama or McCain.


He's not a licensed plumber and he's got tax liens against him.


What a great example to use!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

Let me guess, Obama doesn't like Joe calling him a Socialist so he sent his goons to try to find some dirt on him. You libs ought to be real proud..... Obama has a habit of trying to silence his critics. Is that part of the change you all want?
 

Vision

Well-known member
VanC said:
kolanuraven said:
Vision said:
Lies, he has a residential licence but not a commercial one. Once again the haters and lazy media just licked up someones BS without checking the public record.

He is current in the process of getting his commercial license as well as the residential one he already holds.

Nice try....

See how Kola refuses to address the argument that Joe the plumber made and goes directly to attacking HIM?

The Obama campaign is doing the same thing. I bet they go and find every ex-girlfriend he ever had to say stuff about him too.

This is what the left will do to any private citizens who would dare question their nonsense and Kola, always a champion of those who hate and smear, is carrying the flag.


I didn't know you knew Joe. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No wonder you have no income. You won't get off this site long enough to get a job!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

You just did it again.


She must not be smart enough to come up with a real argument... at least that is what she is proving to the rest of us.
 

fff

Well-known member
Vision said:
kolanuraven said:
...is gonna end up wishing he'd never heard of Obama or McCain.


He's not a licensed plumber and he's got tax liens against him.


What a great example to use!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:


Lies, he has a residential licence but not a commercial one. Once again the haters and lazy media just licked up someones BS without checking the public record.

He is current in the process of getting his commercial license as well as the residential one he already holds.

Nice try....

See how Kola refuses to address the argument that Joe the plumber made and goes directly to attacking HIM?

The Obama campaign is doing the same thing. I bet they go and find every ex-girlfriend he ever had to say stuff about him too.

This is what the left will do to any private citizens who would dare question their nonsense and Kola, always a champion of those who hate and smear, is carrying the flag.

You're the liar or idiot. He says he's not licensed. And it's so funny to see you guys defend a lie. :lol: :lol:

Joe the Plumber is not exactly a plumber, he's "not even close" to making the kind of money that would result in higher taxes from Democrat Barack Obama's proposals and has such an aversion to taxes that a lien was filed against him by the state of Ohio.

Such is the whirlwind of information that has come out about Joe Wurzelbacher of Holland, Ohio, since Republican John McCain made him famous in last night's debate. McCain mentioned him more than 20 times to use him as a symbol of hard-working Americans who would be hurt by Obama's tax policies. Obama and Wurzelbacher met earlier in the week in Toledo, where Wurzelbacher said Obama's plans to raise taxes on those making $250,000 a year or more would penalize him in his plans to buy the plumbing business for which he works.

Wurzelbacher since then has been on Fox News, interviewed by CBS's Katie Couric and appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Not all the attention has been welcomed. Wurzelbacher, 34, told the Associated Press that he was not a licensed plumber. Because he works for a small company that does residential work, he said, he doesn't need to be licensed.

More at the link:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/16/joe_the_plumber_not_a_licensed.html?hpid=topnews
 

movin' on

Well-known member
Joe the Plumber (whether he's an actual plumber or not is irrelevant) AKA Joe the American, asked Obama a fairly straightforward question and Obama basically responded......."I'm for socialism."

Joe did what so many in the media are too drunk on the Kool-Aid to do....put Obama on the spot!

Way to go, Joe!

The media is just in hysterics over this. How could you ever question the Messiah, the Annointed, Barack Apollo Hussein Obama??!! Don't you dare ask a question like that.

Kola, Oldtimer, all you liberal kooks.....be scared, be very scared. Obama is a socialist and Joe brought it into the limelight.
 

Vision

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Nice Try FFF...

Wurzelbacher registered as an apprentice with the Ohio State Apprenticeship Council in November 2003. He works under the companies residential plumber licence till he finishes his apprenticship.

...

But if you dare ask "The One" a tough question in public, who else but the NYT and the Washington Post will come and trash you.....



Speaking of the Washington Post - lets take the Washington Post down Smear memory lane shall we???...

You will REALLY hate my next post FFF...
 

Yanuck

Well-known member
movin' on said:
Joe the Plumber (whether he's an actual plumber or not is irrelevant) AKA Joe the American, asked Obama a fairly straightforward question and Obama basically responded......."I'm for socialism."

Joe did what so many in the media are too drunk on the Kool-Aid to do....put Obama on the spot!

Way to go, Joe!

The media is just in hysterics over this. How could you ever question the Messiah, the Annointed, Barack Apollo Hussein Obama??!! Don't you dare ask a question like that.

Kola, Oldtimer, all you liberal kooks.....be scared, be very scared. Obama is a socialist and Joe brought it into the limelight.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :agree:
 

Vision

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http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/washington-post-starts-to-reverse-itself-after-pressure-from-obama-but-long-list-of-palin-lies-and-smears-from-the-washpost-still-go-unretracted/


Follow the link above to get the info and links to the sources.

So Washington Post Why No Reversals or Retractions On Your Palin Smears that Were Lies - Let's Take a Walk Down Smear Memory Lane:

First it was the smear that Palin cut finding to aid to teen mothers - Debunked HERE and HERE - still no retraction in the WashPost article HERE.

Next it was Slate.com. Slate partners with the Washington Post and it appears prominently on several places on the site. They share writers whop they call "journalists". Check HERE for a litany of smears about Palin, her family, Christians, and Wasilla Alaska, still no retractions. Play the video to really see just how bad they are. Slate is still publishing smears to this day with no attempt to fact-check whatsoever.

The third smear is that Palin stole from Alaska by over billing and dishonestly billing for "Per Diem" charges to the state on her expense reports. The lie was easily debunked by public records and we did it HERE the Washington Post article still with NO RETRACTION is HERE.

The fourth smear is the Washington Post blatantly lying about the contents of a speech Palin made at a troop deployment ceremony. WashPost said that Palin blamed Saddam for 9/11 when she did no such thing and anyone who watched the "youtube" of the speech could see that easily. Of course they did it on page one. The lie was debunked HERE and still NO RETRACTION from the Washington Post HERE. What is so amusing is that they said that Palin claimed that she was talking about Al-Qeada and not Saddam... nothing even close to a retraction. If the video of the event wasn't put on youtube they may have gotten away with this obvious smear.

The fifth smear from the Washington Post is that Palin is an "Earmark Queen" saying that Palin lobbied for $27 million in federal earmark spending for her population of 6,300 Wasilla when she was Mayor. A simple check of the public records exposed this as a lie. We debunked it HERE and HERE. Stll no retraction from the WashPost HERE.

This is NOT a comprehensive list I assure you, but lets change gears a bit.

Factcheck.org goes after the lies from the Washington Post and we reported it HERE.

Newsbusters.org went after the Washington Post for more ridiculous coverage and we reported it HERE.

The Washington Post Ombudsman says that media coverage favors Obama, including the Washington Post's. We reported on it HERE.
 
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Anonymous

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Comically the bloggers are getting a kick out of this- saying that Joe the Plumber has conducted more interviews in one day than Sarah Palin has in 3 months... :wink: :lol: :lol: :p

And after being given the "real" facts - Joe had to admit that his taxes wouldn't raise under Obama's plan and that he would probably actually get a tax break....
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Comically the bloggers are getting a kick out of this- saying that Joe the Plumber has conducted more interviews in one day than Sarah Palin has in 3 months... :wink: :lol: :lol: :p

And after being given the "real" facts - Joe had to admit that his taxes wouldn't raise under Obama's plan and that he would probably actually get a tax break....

And that changes Obama's Marxist policies how?
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Comically the bloggers are getting a kick out of this- saying that Joe the Plumber has conducted more interviews in one day than Sarah Palin has in 3 months... :wink: :lol: :lol: :p

And after being given the "real" facts - Joe had to admit that his taxes wouldn't raise under Obama's plan and that he would probably actually get a tax break....

And that changes Obama's Marxist policies how?

come on husker oldtimer does not address facts!!He wont even answer a question addressed directly to him, he just evades and backs off or tries to turn the question around.
old cut and paste doesn't know how to address real issiues so his head goes up in the dark spot and his eyes turn browner :D

oldtimer can i call your wife a bimbo????????
 

MBW61

Member
This Joe Plumber Thing has got me kind of mad.

It seems the lesson is that Joe plumber, or Joe carpenter, or Joe truck driver, or Joe cowboy, can spout off all you want but if you happen to acually start to have a impact on there candidate, than Joe Midia is gonna find all the dirt on you or make it up, and make you wish you had kept your pesant mouth shut.
 

Texan

Well-known member
MBW61 said:
This Joe Plumber Thing has got me kind of mad.

It seems the lesson is that Joe plumber, or Joe carpenter, or Joe truck driver, or Joe cowboy, can spout off all you want but if you happen to acually start to have a impact on there candidate, than Joe Midia is gonna find all the dirt on you or make it up, and make you wish you had kept your pesant mouth shut.
Yep, that sums it up pretty nicely. The liberal attack machine goes into action and tries to destroy anybody that has a negative impact on their guy.

And they like to accuse Karl Rove, Rush, Ann and other conservatives of doing things like that. The libs are a pretty pathetic bunch of hypocrites.
 

CattleArmy

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I think if you would be fair you would realize that no matter which candidate if they are attacked the clean up people come in and try and make the situation look better somehow. Democrats do it, Republicans do it............it's political power plays.
 

Texan

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CattleArmy said:
I think if you would be fair you would realize that no matter which candidate if they are attacked the clean up people come in and try and make the situation look better somehow. Democrats do it, Republicans do it............it's political power plays.
Oh, I agree. But...how exactly does that represent "CHANGE?" :?
 

movin' on

Well-known member
Thanks, Yanuck.

Oldtimer......Joe has a dream. He has not yet reached Obama Hood's magical kick-in number. He knows that and knew it all along. The question was stated in a real plain way. I plan on eventually owning my own business and hiring more people and hopefully reaching the plateau that you have established as my limit......why do you want to persecute me once I become "sussessful".

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