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Polled V. Horned

Which is better Polled Or Horned

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Canadian_Cowgirl

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We have Polled Herefords but some people say Horned are better. Does it really matter or is it just Preferances?
Tell me what you guys think!
Thank you

Katy
 

cert

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This topic can get into a pretty good debate. Just boils down to your preference I think. Most of which is dependent on your local market.
I have a good horned bull that I'm really pleased with. He is improving my polled based cow herd every year. My horned cow families are great for what I want.
I voted horned.
 

Jassy

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Now this is strictly my personnal thought...I like the looks of a Horned Bull...but prefer the look of a Polled Cow. :wink:
 

Work Hard and Study Hard

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Horned hereford cows have a deeper genetic base, polled hereford cows only have about a 60 year shallower gene pool. I run a crossbred heavily angus influenced herd and have used Shutte and Sons Polled hereford bulls to get away from the horns. I believe that any hereford bull seller has culled through the BS that held the breed behind. I don't believe at all in a straight hereford cow but I do believe in their foragability. The strong have survived in the Hereford breed much like the strong will have to survive in the Angus.
 

jigs

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to take the horns off a bull, in my opinion, is the same a taking his nuts. it deprives him of his manliness it is just a thing I like to see, that big old set of curved horns.

I have heard that the Jensen Brothers are developing a horned bull that throws polled calves. this I may look into. but I do enjoy dehorning, so it really makes no difference to me , other than the look of the bull.
 

Ben Roberts

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Polled Herefords are genetic mutations, and for the life of me, I don't understand why any breeder would keep a mutation for seedstock.

I made this statement, to the American Hereford Association, the issues with the Hereford industry, was not from other breeds, it's from within our own breed.

Ben Roberts
 

randiliana

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jigs said:
to take the horns off a bull, in my opinion, is the same a taking his nuts. it deprives him of his manliness it is just a thing I like to see, that big old set of curved horns.

I have heard that the Jensen Brothers are developing a horned bull that throws polled calves. this I may look into. but I do enjoy dehorning, so it really makes no difference to me , other than the look of the bull.

That is pretty much impossible, since the horned gene is recessive to the polled one, and to get horns on an animal you have to have 2 horn genes. Even 1 polled gene, will make the animal polled.
 

jigs

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I have no idea on how it works, I was just told they re wanting to come up with a way to do it.....I suppose with thier polled cows, a horned bull will throw polled calves.
 

SMN Herf

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Polled Herefords are genetic mutations, and for the life of me, I don't understand why any breeder would keep a mutation for seedstock.

I am sure you posted this to get the debate going. I just came to the realizaion that I like mutants. Nothing against nonmutants, but I love mutants. Now that I think about it, it feels good to get out of the closet. :p

It doesn't say much for the "nonmutants" then when they get outdone by the "mutants" and on another thought, what kind of cattle are bred so loosely that they have mutants anyway?

In my opinion, good cattle are good cattle, whether they have horns or no horns. There are good and bad cattle in both.

Also, if you want polled calves from a horned bull, use him on angus cows.

Brian
 

randiliana

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jigs said:
I have no idea on how it works, I was just told they re wanting to come up with a way to do it.....I suppose with thier polled cows, a horned bull will throw polled calves.

Well, good luck to them. I can't see how it would ever work.
If you breed a homozygous polled (bull OR cow) to a horned or heterozygous polled, they will all still be polled. Just the way it works. You can get horns by breeding hetero to hetero or to horned, but if you have 2 horned animals unless you have a mutation (how polled started) you will never get a polled animal.

PP - Homo polled (animal polled)
Pp - Hetero polled (animal polled)
pp - Homo horned (animal horned)

As long as an animal has 1 P it will be polled.
 

Ben Roberts

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SMN Herf said:
Polled Herefords are genetic mutations, and for the life of me, I don't understand why any breeder would keep a mutation for seedstock.

I am sure you posted this to get the debate going. I just came to the realizaion that I like mutants. Nothing against nonmutants, but I love mutants. Now that I think about it, it feels good to get out of the closet. :p

It doesn't say much for the "nonmutants" then when they get outdone by the "mutants" and on another thought, what kind of cattle are bred so loosely that they have mutants anyway?

In my opinion, good cattle are good cattle, whether they have horns or no horns. There are good and bad cattle in both.

Also, if you want polled calves from a horned bull, use him on angus cows.

Brian

No debate from here, do what you must. "bred so loosely". Every species in the plant or animal kingdom, can and do, produce mutations. And I will respect your opinion.

Ben Roberts
 

Doug Thorson

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For any who like the Horned Hereford I have line 1 yearling bulls for sale private treaty.

Doug Thorson
20951 E Grindstone Rd
Quinn SD 57775
(605) 859-3538
 

jigs

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Doug Thorson said:
For any who like the Horned Hereford I have line 1 yearling bulls for sale private treaty. Free delivery, and no interest, no payments until 2012. Plus I supply all the feed and fencing they require.

Doug Thorson
20951 E Grindstone Rd
Quinn SD 57775
(605) 859-3538


Hey, I want two!
 
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Anonymous

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jigs said:
Doug Thorson said:
For any who like the Horned Hereford I have line 1 yearling bulls for sale private treaty. Free delivery, and no interest, no payments until 2012. Plus I supply all the feed and fencing they require.

Doug Thorson
20951 E Grindstone Rd
Quinn SD 57775
(605) 859-3538


Hey, I want two!

I could handle a few of those too :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

Doug Thorson

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Hey you guys could be a little nicer to a guy on his first post!! :p
But in all seriousness you guys can have my best bull tested and delivered for free. All you have to do is buy 5 and he is free.

Doug Thorson
 
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Anonymous

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jigs said:
send the free one here, oldtimer will take the other 4. he is one hell of a guy!

Gee Thanks jigs... :roll: :lol: :lol:

There might be a few more hereford bulls sold around here this year-- I guess some of the local grazing districts decided to enforce the old grazing rules after some of the ranchers complained about the Limi bulls a few fellas were running--and the old rules say the only bulls allowed are registered angus or hereford...
 
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