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Mike

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Aug 30, 10:51 PM EDT

California Bills Target Huge Stores

By DON THOMPSON
Associated Press Writer
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Bills that would give California's local governments more power to fight Wal-Mart and other huge stores are heading to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, over the objections of the giant retailer, business groups and Republican lawmakers.

The latest bill, approved 23-16 Wednesday by the Senate, would require local governments to consider an economic impact report before approving any "big box" store larger than 100,000 square feet.

On Tuesday, a 24-13 vote sent Schwarzenegger a bill requiring retailers to pay communities' legal fees if the local governments prevail in lawsuits that challenge zoning ordinances or regulations aimed at restricting mega-stores.

Schwarzenegger spokeswoman Margita Thompson said the governor has taken no position on the bills.

"Clearly, Wal-Mart in particular has been using its money and influence to try to influence local government decisions," said the bills' author, Sen. Richard Alarcon.

The state has an interest, he said, because "Wal-Mart is the most egregious offender when it comes to having employees use public assistance - in fact, training them to apply."

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has become a charged political topic nationwide, attacked by critics as the source of a plethora of social ills from low wages and meager insurance benefits to harmful environmental impacts. Company supporters say the world's largest retailer provides millions of well-paying jobs and helps keep consumer prices low.

The bill approved Wednesday would require Wal-Mart and other mega-store retailers to pay for environmental studies. Alarcon said those reports will give local officials the information they need about transportation, housing, wage, employment, taxes and other effects.
Wal-Mart opposes adding economic reviews that it says would invite lawsuits to block stores, company spokeswoman Trudi Hughes said in an interview.

"If local governments want to stop projects, they can. They don't need state legislation," Hughes said. "This is legislation that will hurt consumer choice. We're hopeful Governor Schwarzenegger will veto the bill."

Republican senators said the legislation unfairly singles out Wal-Mart, hurting not only the company but the low-wage earners who depend on it for reasonably priced merchandise and groceries, as well as jobs.

"People go there because they want low prices," said Sen. Jim Battin. "If the place is so evil and awful, then why do so many people want to work there? Why is it so successful?"
 

Texan

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"People go there because they want low prices," said Sen. Jim Battin. "If the place is so evil and awful, then why do so many people want to work there? Why is it so successful?"

The success of Wal-Mart gives us a perfect example of what the typical American consumer cares about---saving money. Not loyalty to customer service. Not loyalty to local business owners. Not loyalty to businesses that close on Sundays to let their employees off. And certainly not loyalty to products of the USA.

As long as it's cheap enough, the consumer never bats an eye at the clearly labeled country of origin on the junky imported crap that Wal-Mart sells.
 

S.S.A.P.

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Texan said:
"People go there because they want low prices," said Sen. Jim Battin. "If the place is so evil and awful, then why do so many people want to work there? Why is it so successful?"

The success of Wal-Mart gives us a perfect example of what the typical American consumer cares about---saving money. Not loyalty to customer service. Not loyalty to local business owners. Not loyalty to businesses that close on Sundays to let their employees off. And certainly not loyalty to products of the USA.

As long as it's cheap enough, the consumer never bats an eye at the clearly labeled country of origin on the junky imported crap that Wal-Mart sells.

Texan - I mean no disrespect, but the last words of your post have me chuckling ......
"on the junky imported crap that Wal-Mart sells."

My last bags purchased at Walmart had eleven "USA" labels on different products ... really no disrespect, but that line, struck me as funny !
 

Texan

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S.S.A.P. said:
Texan - I mean no disrespect, but the last words of your post have me chuckling ......
"on the junky imported crap that Wal-Mart sells."

My last bags purchased at Walmart had eleven "USA" labels on different products ... really no disrespect, but that line, struck me as funny !
So you Canucks have to buy that junky imported stuff, too? :lol: Maybe it wasn't really made in the USA. Did you ever stop to think about that? Maybe some big evil 'multinational' corporations just pulled the Chinese labels off and replaced them with the USA labels so they could pass that junk off as made in the US.
 
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Texan said:
S.S.A.P. said:
Texan - I mean no disrespect, but the last words of your post have me chuckling ......
"on the junky imported crap that Wal-Mart sells."

My last bags purchased at Walmart had eleven "USA" labels on different products ... really no disrespect, but that line, struck me as funny !
So you Canucks have to buy that junky imported stuff, too? :lol: Maybe it wasn't really made in the USA. Did you ever stop to think about that? Maybe some big evil 'multinational' corporations just pulled the Chinese labels off and replaced them with the USA labels so they could pass that junk off as made in the US.

Or were made in some of the US territorys that Abramoff got Daschle and some of our congressmen to sell out to the Communist Chinese factories so they could still use slave labor, but were legally allowed to put a USA label on them so they would be worth more....
 

Texan

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I couldn't even find a damn grease gun locally that was made in the US. All the ones I looked at were made in India. I finally found one that was about ten bucks higher and bought it because I knew it had to be made in the US. Wrong. Made in China---and still ten bucks higher. I kept it anyway because I wanted to buy from my local parts store to help keep them in business and that's all they offered. I raised hell but what else do you do?
 

TimH

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Oldtimer said:
Texan said:
S.S.A.P. said:
Texan - I mean no disrespect, but the last words of your post have me chuckling ......
"on the junky imported crap that Wal-Mart sells."

My last bags purchased at Walmart had eleven "USA" labels on different products ... really no disrespect, but that line, struck me as funny !
So you Canucks have to buy that junky imported stuff, too? :lol: Maybe it wasn't really made in the USA. Did you ever stop to think about that? Maybe some big evil 'multinational' corporations just pulled the Chinese labels off and replaced them with the USA labels so they could pass that junk off as made in the US.

Or were made in some of the US territorys that Abramoff got Daschle and some of our congressmen to sell out to the Communist Chinese factories so they could still use slave labor, but were legally allowed to put a USA label on them so they would be worth more....

CAVEAT EMPTOR

It's pretty simple boys and girls, if it looks like crap, smells like crap or tastes like crap.......don't buy it. Labels are just that...... labels. :D
 

Texan

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TimH said:
CAVEAT EMPTOR

It's pretty simple boys and girls, if it looks like crap, smells like crap or tastes like crap.......don't buy it. Labels are just that...... labels. :D
Are you trying to say that it doesn't imply quality just because it has a USA label on it? That's not what I heaR.
 
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TimH said:
Oldtimer said:
Texan said:
So you Canucks have to buy that junky imported stuff, too? :lol: Maybe it wasn't really made in the USA. Did you ever stop to think about that? Maybe some big evil 'multinational' corporations just pulled the Chinese labels off and replaced them with the USA labels so they could pass that junk off as made in the US.

Or were made in some of the US territorys that Abramoff got Daschle and some of our congressmen to sell out to the Communist Chinese factories so they could still use slave labor, but were legally allowed to put a USA label on them so they would be worth more....

CAVEAT EMPTOR

It's pretty simple boys and girls, if it looks like crap, smells like crap or tastes like crap.......don't buy it. Labels are just that...... labels. :D

So thats the reason the Communist Chinese spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in lobbying (bribe) money to allow them to put the USA label on products made in their sweatshops... :???: Must be worth something or they wouldn't need to be building the factories in the US Mauriana's (where they can legally label Product of USA), when they already have them on the mainland...
 

TimH

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Oldtimer said:
TimH said:
Oldtimer said:
Or were made in some of the US territorys that Abramoff got Daschle and some of our congressmen to sell out to the Communist Chinese factories so they could still use slave labor, but were legally allowed to put a USA label on them so they would be worth more....

CAVEAT EMPTOR

It's pretty simple boys and girls, if it looks like crap, smells like crap or tastes like crap.......don't buy it. Labels are just that...... labels. :D

So thats the reason the Communist Chinese spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in lobbying (bribe) money to allow them to put the USA label on products made in their sweatshops... :???: Must be worth something or they wouldn't need to be building the factories in the US Mauriana's (where they can legally label Product of USA), when they already have them on the mainland...

You just proved my point, Oldtimer. A label is just a label.... to the unaware, uneducated or inattentive , it may imply quality.
Caveat emptor........ let the buyer beware.
This is not a slam against any particular product, BTW. Crap is crap. Whether it is Chinese, Ukarainian, American or Canadian. A COOL label does not guarantee quality,safety or value.
All it shows, obviously, is that the supplier was legally entitled to put that particular label on the product.
Some guarantee. :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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But there are still many that support and would rather buy the USA label- the reason the Chinese wanted access to it so bad-- and we should be taking advantage of them and cultivating the others- before the packers get access to the $10cwt cattle and $2 day labor available in Brazil and other parts of South America....

Sandhusker pointed it out quite well- and I think its something that even Canadians will be crying for in a very few years- if it isn't too late, since Canada has no positive product image on their beef outside Canada now...Few in the US even know they have ever bought it...
 

TimH

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Oldtimer said:
But there are still many that support and would rather buy the USA label- the reason the Chinese wanted access to it so bad-- and we should be taking advantage of them and cultivating the others- before the packers get access to the $10cwt cattle and $2 day labor available in Brazil and other parts of South America....

Sandhusker pointed it out quite well- and I think its something that even Canadians will be crying for in a very few years- if it isn't too late, since Canada has no positive product image on their beef outside Canada now...Few in the US even know they have ever bought it...

OT, I could jump in my pickup and be in the USA in less than 30 minutes. I could buy a holstein steer in Belcourt, North Dakota , that was skinny, diseased and had never seen bucket of grain, let alone a forkful of decent hay or a handful of mineral. I could have it slaughtered, cut and frozen there. It would qualify as "born raised and slaughtered in the USA".
It would still be crap. The same goes for you coming North and doing the same thing.
Talk about "consumer deception"..........
Crap is Crap!!!! A COOL label will not change that.......or are you assuming that consumers are that patriotic....... or stupid???? :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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Tim, recently several retailers in Korea got rung up for intentionally mislabeling imported lamb as domestic. Were they assuming their customers were patriotic or stupid?
 

PORKER

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PORKER

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So you like what you see,ScoringAg does Animal ID, FDA, EPA and EU recordkeeping. So now ScoringAg supermarkets are looking for Farm products that have had ScoringAg records kept that can be used in stores like beef ,pork,lamb,etc. paying 5-10% over market. Here is a link to the latest story about ScoringAg ; http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060821/FEATURES/608210345
 

PORKER

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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:25 pm Post subject: Great post and comments on the Wal-Mart Salmonlla Suit by

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Great post and comments on the Wal-Mart Salmonlla Suit by www.bloggingstocks.com

Source of Article: http://www.marlerblog.com/

Posted on September 8, 2006 by Bill Marler
Wal-Mart sued in Indiana for salmonella outbreak

Posted Sep 8th 2006 10:12AM by Brian White

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2006/09/08/wal-mart-sued-in-indiana-for-salmonella-outbreak

Filed under: Bad news, Law, Consumer experience, Television, Wal-Mart (WMT)

When someone sues Wal-Mart these days, it usually doesn't even make headlines anywhere. This is a tad bit different, as a Greenwood, Indiana family is suing the global retailer for damages after a boy in the family had to be hospitalized after eating a ham and cheese sandwich from the Greenwood Wal-Mart store.

It appears from initial reports that health officials traced the salmonella outbreak to the deli and bakery sections of this specific Wal-Mart. Over 84 people from the communities of Marion and Johnson counties in Indiana were made sick from eating food from this Wal-Mart, which begs the following question.

Should Wal-Mart be held liable for food poisoning outbreaks that cause "personal injury" to customers of its stores? It depends on how you look at it, but I completely agree in this case that Wal-Mart should be liable. But how about pre-packaged food goods that Wal-Mart basically sells but does not "produce"? Does the liability then rest with the original provider or with the seller (Wal-Mart in this case)?

If the food is "prepared" in a Wal-Mart store, the company legally has responsibility if anyone gets sick. But then, we have to define "prepared". Slicing ham from a pre-cooked slab in the deli -- for example -- is preparing it for sale. Does Wal-Mart remain responsible here? Since temperature and handling play a part, I definitely think so. Not that Wal-Mart the company is hurt very much by food poisoning lawsuits, but the negative perception can become more of a black eye -- something that WMT shareholders need to see less of.
 

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