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Prayer can move mountains

Soapweed

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I found this to be a thought-provoking e-mail, so will pass it along. :wink:

Subject: Prayer can move mountains, why not Obama?

Recently a family member of mine said to me with great resignation that Obama will take the presidency. These words came from someone who in the past has been a great prayer warrior.

What is happening? Why are we Christians settling and not issuing a battle cry and falling to our knees and taking our country back?

We allow ourselves to be stripped of the right to pray at school functions and in school, we have the 10 commandments removed from government places and are told we cannot pray in school, all the while providing public prayer places for Muslims. What in the world is going on and why are we being apathetic?

Why aren't we praying? Our God is a mighty God who is waiting patiently for us to raise our voices to heaven to stop the tide of the anti-Christ actions in our world today. Now we find we have a charismatic candidate for president who does not respect our flag and refuses to wear one on his lapel except when it becomes politically expedient. His own wife and pastor that he loves profess to have strong anti-white feelings, and we sit back and say "it is a given, we can do nothing."

There has never been a time in 2000 years that we can do nothing, never a time that we must sit back and allow the evil in men's and women's hearts to take over our world. We should be very afraid because our apathy is leading us to perdition.

It is time for all Christian Americans to raise the battle cry and take our nation back. Maybe McCain on his own cannot defeat Obama, but our God can and He will if we take to our knees in prayer and raise a mighty cry to the heavens to "Save us O Lord." We have the power to change the course of this election and to keep a man as suspect as Barak Obama from leading our country to who knows where with his message of "change" - a change which I fear will be away from our Christian ideals and away from Christ and further away from one nation under God.

We are great at passing stories and pictures around the internet, but where are our prayers and prayer warriors when it comes to stopping this tide of Barak Obama? God parted the Red Sea, Jesus raised himself from the dead, and we can bring our country back to its Christian roots and stop the move to the rise of Muslims in our country. We can stop our country from being "under Allah," but we must begin to pray, to pray as if our country and our very lives depended on it, because they do. We can stop all these atrocities against God's commands that have taken root in our country through something as simple as sincere prayer, a call to God to deliver us, to forgive us our sins of apathy and to protect us from the evil that is upon us.

Okay prayer warriors, here is your challenge, start those prayer chains. Get the spiritual power working on our behalf and stop Barak Obama the proper way, by calling on our God to save us from the deception of the charismatic preaching being used to lead us on the wrong path. Stop those who would take God out of our country and our government. The battle is His but we must call on Him without ceasing.
 

fff

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Recently a family member of mine said to me with great resignation that Obama will take the presidency. These words came from someone who in the past has been a great prayer warrior.

Because everyone who prays does not agree with John McCain. There are probably as many good Christians praying FOR an Obama win as praying AGAINST an Obama win. So, you see, it's a draw and God will probably let us work it out on our own. :lol:
 

Soapweed

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fff said:
Recently a family member of mine said to me with great resignation that Obama will take the presidency. These words came from someone who in the past has been a great prayer warrior.

Because everyone who prays does not agree with John McCain. There are probably as many good Christians praying FOR an Obama win as praying AGAINST an Obama win. So, you see, it's a draw and God will probably let us work it out on our own. :lol:

:) :) :) :) You may be right. I suppose it could be likened to one rancher praying for rain and another rancher with lots of hay down praying that it doesn't rain. :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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fff said:
Recently a family member of mine said to me with great resignation that Obama will take the presidency. These words came from someone who in the past has been a great prayer warrior.

Because everyone who prays does not agree with John McCain. There are probably as many good Christians praying FOR an Obama win as praying AGAINST an Obama win. So, you see, it's a draw and God will probably let us work it out on our own. :lol:

God can see a man's soul, though. The problem is that God generally lets us make our own mistakes.
 

Martin Jr.

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I think we should pray for the right election results. Maybe God will give us the candidate that best brings us back to good moral values, or maybe he will give us what we deserve if we ask for the wrong outcome.
As for me, I can not support the Democratic party until they lose the radical pro-abortion, moral decadence they promote.
 

mytfarms

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Ha ha. God has never let things "take their course" because He has complete and absolute control over everything. Say what you will, it's the truth. I do have to agree with the fact that God will allow people to make a bad enough mistake that it brings everyone back to their senses and makes them realize how good they used to have it. In my mind, unless we pray and repent BEFORE the election, God may allow someone like Barack to get into the pilot seat and teach us a good, stinging lesson. After all, if He loves us, he won't spare the rod of discipline. Obama might just be that rod.
 

elwapo

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Martin
So why have the Republicans not been able to make abortion illegal..... they have had eight years to do it? I will tell you why. They give the christian voters all the lip service and nothing else. Now they have floated in a born again hockey mom from Alaska to dumb it down because McCain wasn't quite connecting with a relatively uneducated demographic (joe six pack). They will demonize and lie about the opposition in order to scare the good people into voting for them. McCain will do the exact same things as bush and pandering to the religious right and creating fear is their last ditch attempt.
 

Martin Jr.

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When the Supreme Court makes the laws, it is hard to overturn them.
I will just pray for God's will to be done.
Maybe a daily Bible reading would be a good way to start:
Galations 5: 1-6 It was for liberty that Christ freed us. So stand firm, and do not take on yourselves the yoke of slavery a second time! Pay close attention to me, Paul, when I tell you that if you have yourselved circumcised, Christ will be of no use to you! I point out once more to all who receive circumcision that they are bound to the law in its entirety. Any of you who seek your justification in the law have severed yourselves for Christ and fallen from God's favor! It is in the spirit that we eagerly await the justification we hope for and only faith can yield it. In Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor the lack of it counts for anything; only faith, which expresses itself through love.
Luke 11: 37-41 As he was speaking a Pharasee invited him to dine at his house. He entered and reclined at table. Seeing this the Pharisee was surprisd that he had not first performed the ablutions prescribed before eating. The Lord said to him: "You Pharisees! You cleanse the outside of cup and dish, but within you are filled with rapaciousness and evil. Fools! Did not he who made the outside make the inside too? But if you give what you have as alms, all will be wiped clean for you."
 
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Anonymous

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"We allow ourselves to be stripped of the right to pray at school functions and in school, we have the 10 commandments removed from government places and are told we cannot pray in school, all the while providing public prayer places for Muslims. What in the world is going on and why are we being apathetic?"

Could be that we need to get eduction back in the schools. Get prayer in the church where it belongs.
Did you folks not hear Colin Powell tell about a Muslim American soldier who lost his life defending our right to bitch and moan at what is wrong in America. The soldier was 14 when 9/11 happened.He had just turned twenty when he was killed. I think his blood that he shed defending Our American way was just as precious as any ones else. I suspect God gives us what we need instead of what we want. I was always told to pray for God's will to be done and not ask for what I wanted.
 

TexasBred

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Martin Jr. said:
I think we should pray for the right election results. Maybe God will give us the candidate that best brings us back to good moral values, or maybe he will give us what we deserve if we ask for the wrong outcome.
As for me, I can not support the Democratic party until they lose the radical pro-abortion, moral decadence they promote.

Yep, God doesn't take sides. Only let's us exercise our free will. We often bring bad things on ourselves due to our actions or lack therof.
 

Martin Jr.

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October 22, 2008 reading:
Ephesians 3: 2-12 I am sure you have heard of the ministry which God in his goodness gave to me in your regard. That is why to me, Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles, God's secret plan as I have briefly described it was revealed. When you read what I have said, you will realize that I know what I am talking about in speaking of the mystery of Christ, unknown to men in former ages but now revealed by the Spirit to the holy apostles and prophets. It is no less that this: in Christ Jesus the Gentiles are now co-heirs with the Jews, members of the same body and sharers of the promise through the preaching of the gospel. Through the gift God in his goodness bestowed on me by the exercise of his power, I became a minister of the gospel. To me, the least of all believers, was given the grace to preach to the Gentiles the unfathomable riches of Christ and to enlighten all men on the mysterious design which for ages was hidden in God, the Creator of all. Now, therefore, through the church, God's manifold wisdom is made known to the principalities and powers of heaven, in accord with his age-old purpose, carried out in Christ Jesus our Lord. In Christ and through faith in him we can speak freely to God, drawing near him with confidence.
Luke 12:39-48 "You know as well as I that if the head of the house knew when the thief was coming he would not let him break into his house. Be on guard, therefore. The Son of Man will come when you least expect him." Peter said, " Do you intend this parable for us, Lord, or do you mean it for everyone?" The Lord said, " Who in your opinion is that faithful, farsighted steward whom the master will set over his servants to dispense their ration of grain in season? That servant is fortunate whom his master finds busy when he returns. Assuredly, his master will put him in charge of all his property. but if the servant says to himself, 'My master is taking his time about coming,' and begins to abuse the housemen and servants girls, to eat and drink and get drunk, that servant's master will come back on a day when he does not expect him, at a time he does not know. He will punish him severely and rank him among those undeserving of trust. The slave who knew his master's wishes, but did not prepare to fulfill them will get a severe beating, whereas the one who did not know them and who nonetheless deserved to be flogged will get off with fewer stripes. When much has been given a man, much will be required of him. More will be asked of a man to whom more has been entrusted."
 

Martin Jr.

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October 23, 2008
Ephesians 3: 14-21
That is why I kneel before the Father from whom every family in heven and on earth takes its name; and I pray that he will bestow on you gifts in keeping with the riches of his glory. May he strengthen you inwardly through the working of his Spirit. May Christ dwell in your hearts through faith, and may charity be the root and foundatiion of your life. Thus you will be able to grasp fully, with all the holy ones, the breadth and length and height and depth of Christ's love, and experience this love which surpasses all knowledge, so that you may attain to the fullness of God himself. To him whose power now at work in us can do immeasurably more than we ask or imagine - to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus through all generations, world without end. Amen
Luke 12: 49-53
" I have come to light a fire on the earth. How I wish the blaze were ignited! I have a baptism to receive. What anguish I feel till it is over! Do you think I have come to establilsh peace on the earth? I assure, the contrary is true; I have come for division. From now on, a household of five will be dived three agnaist two and two against three; father will be split against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law, daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."
 

Martin Jr.

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October 24. 2008
Ephesians 4: 1-6
I plead with you, then, as a prisoner for the Lord, to live a life worthy of the calling you have received, with perfect humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another lovingly. Make every effort to preserve the unity which has the Spirit as its origin and peace as its binding force. There is but one body and one Spirit, just as there is but one hope given all of you by your call. There is one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all, and works through all, and is in all.
Luke 12: 54-59
He said to the crowds: "When you see a cloud rising in the west, you say immediately that rain is coming - and so it does. When the wind blows from the south, you say it is going to be hot - and so it is. You hypocrites! If you can interpret the portents of earth and sky, why can you not interpret the present time? Tell me, why do you not judge for yourselves what is just? When you are going with your opponent to appear befor a magistrate, try to settle with him on the way lest he turn you over to the judge, and the judge deliver you up to the jailer, and the jailer throw you into prsion. I warn you, you will not be released from there until you have paid the last penny."
 
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