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Predator Priests and the longterm coverups

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https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/09/16/dutch-catholic-church-accused-covering-up-child-sex-abuse/

More than half of the senior figures in the Dutch Catholic Church have been accused of covering up or engaging in the sexual abuse of children, according to a report by the Netherlands' leading newspaper.
 
All of this is interesting, however I think it goes much deeper.

The Pope who was in a position of power was removed. It was claimed he was retiring - but not one Pope has ever done this.

Usually a Pope stays in power until he dies.

The previous Pope was removed and the new Pope - Pope Francis - was installed.

He came out of no where and the old Pope - Pope Benedict XVI - retired.

Unheard of. And funny enough - no one has really heard a thing about him since.

Sorry - I think something is a bit fishy at the upper levels.

Best to all.
 
Broke Cowboy said:
All of this is interesting, however I think it goes much deeper.

The Pope who was in a position of power was removed. It was claimed he was retiring - but not one Pope has ever done this.

Usually a Pope stays in power until he dies.

The previous Pope was removed and the new Pope - Pope Francis - was installed.

He came out of no where and the old Pope - Pope Benedict XVI - retired.

Unheard of. And funny enough - no one has really heard a thing about him since.

Sorry - I think something is a bit fishy at the upper levels.

Best to all.

Spot on as usual. The fruit is a symptom of the tree. Showing all the fruit first makes it harder to argue against the tree being good. However, some will continue to try.

Just more fruit...
https://www.theepochtimes.com/clergy-sex-abuse-hotline-rings-non-stop-in-new-jersey-report_2663651.html

Francis appointment was extremely unusual. The key being his ties to the Jesuits.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/understand-pope-francis-look-jesuits

The rabbit hole on Jesuits goes very deep and is very ugly.
 
Broke Cowboy said:
All of this is interesting, however I think it goes much deeper.

The Pope who was in a position of power was removed. It was claimed he was retiring - but not one Pope has ever done this.

Usually a Pope stays in power until he dies.

The previous Pope was removed and the new Pope - Pope Francis - was installed.

He came out of no where and the old Pope - Pope Benedict XVI - retired.

Unheard of. And funny enough - no one has really heard a thing about him since.

Sorry - I think something is a bit fishy at the upper levels.

Best to all.
Actually he received the 2nd highest number of votes at the previous conclave when Benedict was elected. Benedict makes appearances as he chooses.
 
iwannabeacowboy said:
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/09/16/dutch-catholic-church-accused-covering-up-child-sex-abuse/

More than half of the senior figures in the Dutch Catholic Church have been accused of covering up or engaging in the sexual abuse of children, according to a report by the Netherlands' leading newspaper.
https://www.christiancentury.org/article/2013-10/evangelicals-worse-catholics-sexual-abuse
 
Seriously?

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/18/pope-francis-says-accused-pastors-are-like-jesus-on-good-friday/
 
TexasBred said:
iwannabeacowboy said:
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/09/16/dutch-catholic-church-accused-covering-up-child-sex-abuse/

More than half of the senior figures in the Dutch Catholic Church have been accused of covering up or engaging in the sexual abuse of children, according to a report by the Netherlands' leading newspaper.
https://www.christiancentury.org/article/2013-10/evangelicals-worse-catholics-sexual-abuse


That excuse failed the first time it was used it, and it continues to fail.

Let me help....

Billy Graham was a sexual predator.
His son is a sexual predator. His grandson as you have pointed out is a sexual predator.

Looks generational...which is very consistent with Cabal families, mostly because they are.

All of these false religious leaders deserve their day in court and the public deserves to see what they have done.
 
http://www.flashreport.org/blog/2018/09/18/kamala-harris-covered-up-for-san-francisco-archdiocese-sex-abuse/

Kamala Harris Covered Up For San Francisco Archdiocese Sex Abuse
 
They can't help but signal. Franklin is not who he pretends to be.

Vodoo Donuts just happens to have an owner that is associated with a strip joint that was busted for child prostitution....

But it's the donuts right?

https://www.voodoodoughnut.com























 
More than half of the senior figures in the Dutch Catholic Church have been accused of covering up or engaging in the sexual abuse of children, according to a report by the Netherlands' leading newspaper.
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https://www.christiancentury.org/article/2013-10/evangelicals-worse-catholics-sexual-abuse[/quote]


That excuse failed the first time it was used it, and it continues to fail.

Let me help....

Billy Graham was a sexual predator.
His son is a sexual predator. His grandson as you have pointed out is a sexual predator.

Looks generational...which is very consistent with Cabal families, mostly because they are.

All of these false religious leaders deserve their day in court and the public deserves to see what they have done.[/quote]

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Where is the proof of Billy Graham being a sexual predator? I do not believe your post. He was 100 years old when he died and there was never a hint of a scandal. Ever.
 
Faster horses said:
Where is the proof of Billy Graham being a sexual predator? I do not believe your post. He was 100 years old when he died and there was never a hint of a scandal. Ever.

Faster,

Our minds can only take so much. You don't have to believe me, that's ok.

We've all been lied to in many ways and by many people. That isn't easy to accept, especially the older we get. Our brain can't take as much shock. But our personal beliefs don't change reality.

It's always someone else's religious leader that is wolf in sheep's clothing, never our own..... funny how that works. It also severs to bring about empathy, as we can understand how others might feel dealing with the same. As I said before, they should all be exposed. But note, I'm not attacking the Gospel.

No hint of scandal.... from where, by whom? The people who claim he molested him? Yes, there have been several stories, but they were never covered by the media. Only in the age of the internet do these stories start making their way around. The people that have been abused are fractured souls. Who is going to be more credible an abused and forgotten child of little means or "America's Pastor"?

Should you believe them? Should you believe the lady claiming attempted rape by Kavanaugh? What about the lady that says she was abused by Keith Ellison?

Do you believe them or not believe them based on their political ideology/religion? Or do you look for supporting evidence?

There appears to be a large amount of smoke around Keith Ellison being abusive and very little around Kavanaugh being an attempted rapist. But one story has received much more attention. Do you see how the narrative is driven by the media? Why can they not do the same for religious leaders?

For starters, how did Graham become "America's Pastor"? Ever heard of Time Magazine?

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Henry Luce

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Luce

Time magazine and the CIA.
http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php
 
A hotline set up by the New Jersey attorney general to report sexual abuse within the Catholic Church has been "ringing off the hook" for nearly two weeks, according to the state's top prosecutor. So many calls are coming in that an automated message is being played for some callers that says they're unable to take calls due to the amount of activity on the phone line.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/catholic-church-hotline-to-report-sexual-abuse-rings-off-the-hook-cant-handle-volume-of-calls-received/
 
iwannabeacowboy said:
A hotline set up by the New Jersey attorney general to report sexual abuse within the Catholic Church has been "ringing off the hook" for nearly two weeks, according to the state's top prosecutor. So many calls are coming in that an automated message is being played for some callers that says they're unable to take calls due to the amount of activity on the phone line.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/catholic-church-hotline-to-report-sexual-abuse-rings-off-the-hook-cant-handle-volume-of-calls-received/
ARE YOU A NON-BELIVER??? IN OTHER WORDS "AN ATHEIST".
 
1. I've never stated such.

2. How do my personal beliefs affect what these evil people have done?

Are you trying to figure a personal attack instead of discuss the facts of the situation?

Sad.
 
Utah LDS Church sex abuse ring lawsuit filing with cited evidence…

Lawsuit filing:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4953961-Jane-Doe-John-Doe-lawsuit.html



A filing for motion to dismiss the aforementioned case by the defendents… by citing past satanic/ritualistic/sacraficial child abuse?

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4953960-Motion-to-dismiss-Doe-lawsuit.html
 
"ARE YOU A NON-BELIVER??? IN OTHER WORDS "AN ATHEIST"."

Or maybe just somebody who believes the 'shepherds' are supposed to nurture the flock, not 'flock' them?

Catholic church has protected pedophiles for hundreds of yrs. When thousands of cases are handled the same--covered up, priests moved to do it again somewhere else, no cops every involved---don't it look like some kinda central authority--some 'guidance from above'---?

And it's finally biting them in the ass--about time. Holding these pervs--and those who protected them--accountable is the opposite of being anti Christian.

Organized religion looks to me to be pretty much about sex, money, sex, control, power.

Look at the Mormons---half the guys getting joseph smith charged and arrested were fellow Mormons who were pissed he married their wives while they were on the missions he sent them on.

He got a message from God to have lotsa wives---shared that with fellow higher ups --not with general population at first and certainly not with his first wife...and there's still a small bunch that trade and marry each others' relates

If the rank and file of these churches exhibited half the outrage they display over their dirty linen being aired against it happening in the first place--it would have stopped yrs ago.
 
I remember, as a kid, my grandmother telling me about the abuse in the Catholic church that she knew about, in polite language. Would have been things from ~~100 years ago.
 
iwannabeacowboy said:
1. I've never stated such.

2. How do my personal beliefs affect what these evil people have done?

Are you trying to figure a personal attack instead of discuss the facts of the situation?

Sad.
Not at all. I simply asked an honest question and you refused to answer.........Sad

As for predator priests, pastors, etc. there has been way too much of it for way to long and those in charge need to do something to bring it to a halt and prosecute the guilty of all religions, denominations etc. Unfortunately the Catholics get all the headlines for a couple of reasons. It's only made public long after the fact and usually the victim receives big money. Protestant churches seem to downplay it, keep it quite as well and simply remove the pastor and he's free to go and do whatever he wants. Since a majority of them are independent or at least "stand alone" churches there seldom is any big money to be had from anyone so it doesn't make the big headlines. As I said earlier don't be fooled into thinking it's limited strictly to Catholics as studies and research have proven it to be rampant in all faiths. None are exempt so clean your own house before you pass judgement on mine.
 
Traveler said:
I remember, as a kid, my grandmother telling me about the abuse in the Catholic church that she knew about, in polite language. Would have been things from ~~100 years ago.
Biggest scandal in my little community while growing up was pastor of the pentecostal church getting a 14 year old girl pregnant. They dismissed him, the girl gave birth and her parents raised the child but I have no idea where the pastor went or if he did anything like that again. Never heard anything about any charges being filed either. This was around 1960.
 
TexasBred said:
iwannabeacowboy said:
1. I've never stated such.

2. How do my personal beliefs affect what these evil people have done?

Are you trying to figure a personal attack instead of discuss the facts of the situation?

Sad.
Not at all. I simply asked an honest question and you refused to answer.........Sad

As for predator priests, pastors, etc. there has been way too much of it for way to long and those in charge need to do something to bring it to a halt and prosecute the guilty of all religions, denominations etc. Unfortunately the Catholics get all the headlines for a couple of reasons. It's only made public long after the fact and usually the victim receives big money. Protestant churches seem to downplay it, keep it quite as well and simply remove the pastor and he's free to go and do whatever he wants. Since a majority of them are independent or at least "stand alone" churches there seldom is any big money to be had from anyone so it doesn't make the big headlines. As I said earlier don't be fooled into thinking it's limited strictly to Catholics as studies and research have proven it to be rampant in all faiths. None are exempt so clean your own house before you pass judgement on mine.

As I said. My personal views have no bearing on the conduct of various religious leaders.

I also stated that a holier than thou attitude won't age well for almost anyone.

Are false teachers fortold or not?

How many atheists use biblical doctrine to support their positions? Have I argued against men or God?


Littlejoe said:
Holding these pervs--and those who protected them--accountable is the opposite of being anti Christian.

Sound reasoning.
 

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