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President Bush deserves credit

VanC

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They Won't Give Him Credit
Mona Charen
Friday, December 05, 2008

I can see it now. The world will be very different. The president of the United States will receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his lifesaving aid to victims of disease in Africa. Government and civic leaders from Europe and Asia will express their admiration. Americans will walk a little taller. Barack Obama will bow his head as the ribboned medal is extended

But wait. The president who deserves such an honor is in office now. It is George W. Bush who has devoted so much time, energy, and money (well, our money, but it was legal) to fighting AIDS and other diseases in Africa.

From the beginning of his administration, President Bush has pushed for more aid to Africa. Motivated perhaps by his deeply felt Christian faith (relieving poverty in Africa has become a major charitable push among evangelicals), the president has pressed for greater aid to Africa across the board. The original PEPFAR legislation (President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief), which passed in 2003, was the largest single health investment by any government ever ($15 billion). At the time the initiative was launched, only about 50,000 sub-Saharan Africans were receiving antiretroviral treatment for AIDS. Today, 1.7 million people in the region, as well as tens of thousands more around the globe, are receiving such treatment. PEPFAR has also funded efforts to prevent mother-to-child transmission of the AIDS virus, provided compassionate care to the sick and dying, and cared for 5 million orphans. One aspect of the program has been to reduce the stigma of the AIDS diagnosis in Africa.

In July of this year, the president requested that funding for PEPFAR be doubled to $30 billion. The new funding will be used to train 140,000 new health care workers. It would also address other illnesses, like tuberculosis, that often complicate AIDS.

The president also backed a malaria initiative that has provided an estimated 25 million Africans with nets, spraying, and other prevention and treatment options. Separate from the AIDS funds, the president has tripled development assistance and humanitarian aid to Africa since taking office.


When he traveled to Africa earlier this year (his second trip to the region as president), President Bush was greeted by enthusiastic crowds and grateful heads of state. Of the 10 nations around the world that expressed the most positive feelings toward the U.S.A. in a recent Pew poll, eight were in Africa. (The other two were Israel and the U.S.) President Jakaya Kikwete of Tanzania paid tribute to Mr. Bush, saying, as the Christian Science Monitor reported, "Different people may have different views about you and your administration and your legacy. We in Tanzania, if we are to speak for ourselves and for Africa, we know for sure that you, Mr. President, and your administration have been good friends of our country and of Africa."

"Bush Has Quietly Tripled Aid to Africa." So headlined a Washington Post story from 2006. But the president has been trying not to be quiet about it. On the contrary, he's been touting it as often as he can.

But he gets precious little credit. Yes, Rick Warren of the Saddleback Church has awarded President Bush the "International Medal of Peace" for his humanitarian efforts in Africa. And a few agitators for international aid like Bono and Bob Geldof have put in a few good words for the man. Actually, Geldof was pretty interesting. He said George Bush had done more for Africa than his predecessor and was "pissed off" at the press for failing to report it.

But for the most part, the beautiful people in America -- the Hollywood and university types, the book and magazine publishers, and of course, the major media -- have shown complete indifference to George W. Bush's dedication to a cause they purport to value. In fact, they've pointedly ignored it. It goes without saying that if Obama does even half of what Bush has done for AIDS sufferers in Africa, he will be -- in the eyes of those same people -- a candidate for canonization.

Of course the left can say whatever they like about George Bush and the war in Iraq and the war on terror. But when he does something completely in line with their own stated principles and values, it is simply mean-spirited of them to deny him his due.

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jigs

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have you not watched the news??? Bush is the new Satan. only the Messiah Obama deserves any good praise.....Bush is the pillar of all evil....



don't believe me? ask Kola, fff, or Oldtimer to pull thier head out of thier ass and tell you...
 

kolanuraven

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Ben H said:
We haven't been attacked again.


Why should the bad guys waste time, energy and money on us? We're doing our self in very well without their help.

They can just sit back and watch as the world's self proclaimed BAD ASS sinks in it's own shite!

We are our own worst enemy at this time in history.
 

hopalong

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kolanuraven said:
Ben H said:
We haven't been attacked again.


Why should the bad guys waste time, energy and money on us? We're doing our self in very well without their help.

They can just sit back and watch as the world's self proclaimed BAD ASS sinks in it's own shite!

We are our own worst enemy at this time in history.

No one is forcing you to live here!!!Have a nice journey to someplace else we won't miss you!
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
hopalong said:
kolanuraven said:
Ben H said:
We haven't been attacked again.


Why should the bad guys waste time, energy and money on us? We're doing our self in very well without their help.

They can just sit back and watch as the world's self proclaimed BAD ASS sinks in it's own shite!

We are our own worst enemy at this time in history.

No one is forcing you to live here!!!Have a nice journey to someplace else we won't miss you!



Ohhh....you'd cry your beady little crossed eyes out if I left you!!!! :wink:
 

jigs

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Ben H said:
We haven't been attacked again.


Why should the bad guys waste time, energy and money on us? We're doing our self in very well without their help.

They can just sit back and watch as the world's self proclaimed BAD ASS sinks in it's own shite!

We are our own worst enemy at this time in history.
people like you, with this line of thought, are the very ones who will gut America from with in... and Obama will be the ring leader.
 

Ben H

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When can we declare war on the left? My trigger finger is itchin' something fierce! The sooner we get it over with the sooner we can move on.

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backhoeboogie

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Dubya is coming home and we'll gladly take him back.

Clinton did not come back to Arkansas thank goodness. That is too close to Texas. He took his, "I feel your pain" to New York and I hope they keep him and her.
 

Ben H

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If you consider the way of the constitution and the intent of our forefathers as my way, then yes, my way or the highway.
 

alice

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Ben H said:
If you consider the way of the constitution and the intent of our forefathers as my way, then yes, my way or the highway.

So, are you one of those guys that spends his weekends crawling thru underbrush in camo...shooting at bad guy cutouts?

Alice
 

fff

Well-known member
VanC said:
They Won't Give Him Credit
Mona Charen
Friday, December 05, 2008

I can see it now. The world will be very different. The president of the United States will receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his lifesaving aid to victims of disease in Africa. Government and civic leaders from Europe and Asia will express their admiration. Americans will walk a little taller. Barack Obama will bow his head as the ribboned medal is extended

But wait. The president who deserves such an honor is in office now. It is George W. Bush who has devoted so much time, energy, and money (well, our money, but it was legal) to fighting AIDS and other diseases in Africa.

From the beginning of his administration, President Bush has pushed for more aid to Africa. Motivated perhaps by his deeply felt Christian faith (relieving poverty in Africa has become a major charitable push among evangelicals), the president has pressed for greater aid to Africa across the board. The original PEPFAR legislation (President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief), which passed in 2003, was the largest single health investment by any government ever ($15 billion). At the time the initiative was launched, only about 50,000 sub-Saharan Africans were receiving antiretroviral treatment for AIDS. Today, 1.7 million people in the region, as well as tens of thousands more around the globe, are receiving such treatment. PEPFAR has also funded efforts to prevent mother-to-child transmission of the AIDS virus, provided compassionate care to the sick and dying, and cared for 5 million orphans. One aspect of the program has been to reduce the stigma of the AIDS diagnosis in Africa.

In July of this year, the president requested that funding for PEPFAR be doubled to $30 billion. The new funding will be used to train 140,000 new health care workers. It would also address other illnesses, like tuberculosis, that often complicate AIDS.

The president also backed a malaria initiative that has provided an estimated 25 million Africans with nets, spraying, and other prevention and treatment options. Separate from the AIDS funds, the president has tripled development assistance and humanitarian aid to Africa since taking office.


When he traveled to Africa earlier this year (his second trip to the region as president), President Bush was greeted by enthusiastic crowds and grateful heads of state. Of the 10 nations around the world that expressed the most positive feelings toward the U.S.A. in a recent Pew poll, eight were in Africa. (The other two were Israel and the U.S.) President Jakaya Kikwete of Tanzania paid tribute to Mr. Bush, saying, as the Christian Science Monitor reported, "Different people may have different views about you and your administration and your legacy. We in Tanzania, if we are to speak for ourselves and for Africa, we know for sure that you, Mr. President, and your administration have been good friends of our country and of Africa."

"Bush Has Quietly Tripled Aid to Africa." So headlined a Washington Post story from 2006. But the president has been trying not to be quiet about it. On the contrary, he's been touting it as often as he can.

But he gets precious little credit. Yes, Rick Warren of the Saddleback Church has awarded President Bush the "International Medal of Peace" for his humanitarian efforts in Africa. And a few agitators for international aid like Bono and Bob Geldof have put in a few good words for the man. Actually, Geldof was pretty interesting. He said George Bush had done more for Africa than his predecessor and was "p****d off" at the press for failing to report it.

But for the most part, the beautiful people in America -- the Hollywood and university types, the book and magazine publishers, and of course, the major media -- have shown complete indifference to George W. Bush's dedication to a cause they purport to value. In fact, they've pointedly ignored it. It goes without saying that if Obama does even half of what Bush has done for AIDS sufferers in Africa, he will be -- in the eyes of those same people -- a candidate for canonization.

Of course the left can say whatever they like about George Bush and the war in Iraq and the war on terror. But when he does something completely in line with their own stated principles and values, it is simply mean-spirited of them to deny him his due.

Copyright © 2008 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.

No Bush doesn't deserve credit for AIDS funding. He tried to block an international move to educate teens about AIDS because of his belief of chastity before marriage. He insisted that the UN stop using generic drugs, thereby raising the costs of treating AIDS, and cutting the number of people treated. (But big Pharma companies would benefit.) Only this year did he actually increase monies being spent in Africa on AIDS. And Republicans in Congress worked hard to block that!

Bush has been a disaster, not only for this country, but the world. Shame on you for trying to rewrite history to make him look better. :mad:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
I am sure the writer, who is well known has a better slant on it than you do.

I am also sure she is going to worry about what you think when you say SHAME.
pewrhaps it is you who should be shamed for not realizing that, the author is not a member of this forum!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
fff said:
VanC said:
They Won't Give Him Credit
Mona Charen
Friday, December 05, 2008

I can see it now. The world will be very different. The president of the United States will receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his lifesaving aid to victims of disease in Africa. Government and civic leaders from Europe and Asia will express their admiration. Americans will walk a little taller. Barack Obama will bow his head as the ribboned medal is extended

But wait. The president who deserves such an honor is in office now. It is George W. Bush who has devoted so much time, energy, and money (well, our money, but it was legal) to fighting AIDS and other diseases in Africa.

From the beginning of his administration, President Bush has pushed for more aid to Africa. Motivated perhaps by his deeply felt Christian faith (relieving poverty in Africa has become a major charitable push among evangelicals), the president has pressed for greater aid to Africa across the board. The original PEPFAR legislation (President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief), which passed in 2003, was the largest single health investment by any government ever ($15 billion). At the time the initiative was launched, only about 50,000 sub-Saharan Africans were receiving antiretroviral treatment for AIDS. Today, 1.7 million people in the region, as well as tens of thousands more around the globe, are receiving such treatment. PEPFAR has also funded efforts to prevent mother-to-child transmission of the AIDS virus, provided compassionate care to the sick and dying, and cared for 5 million orphans. One aspect of the program has been to reduce the stigma of the AIDS diagnosis in Africa.

In July of this year, the president requested that funding for PEPFAR be doubled to $30 billion. The new funding will be used to train 140,000 new health care workers. It would also address other illnesses, like tuberculosis, that often complicate AIDS.

The president also backed a malaria initiative that has provided an estimated 25 million Africans with nets, spraying, and other prevention and treatment options. Separate from the AIDS funds, the president has tripled development assistance and humanitarian aid to Africa since taking office.


When he traveled to Africa earlier this year (his second trip to the region as president), President Bush was greeted by enthusiastic crowds and grateful heads of state. Of the 10 nations around the world that expressed the most positive feelings toward the U.S.A. in a recent Pew poll, eight were in Africa. (The other two were Israel and the U.S.) President Jakaya Kikwete of Tanzania paid tribute to Mr. Bush, saying, as the Christian Science Monitor reported, "Different people may have different views about you and your administration and your legacy. We in Tanzania, if we are to speak for ourselves and for Africa, we know for sure that you, Mr. President, and your administration have been good friends of our country and of Africa."

"Bush Has Quietly Tripled Aid to Africa." So headlined a Washington Post story from 2006. But the president has been trying not to be quiet about it. On the contrary, he's been touting it as often as he can.

But he gets precious little credit. Yes, Rick Warren of the Saddleback Church has awarded President Bush the "International Medal of Peace" for his humanitarian efforts in Africa. And a few agitators for international aid like Bono and Bob Geldof have put in a few good words for the man. Actually, Geldof was pretty interesting. He said George Bush had done more for Africa than his predecessor and was "p****d off" at the press for failing to report it.

But for the most part, the beautiful people in America -- the Hollywood and university types, the book and magazine publishers, and of course, the major media -- have shown complete indifference to George W. Bush's dedication to a cause they purport to value. In fact, they've pointedly ignored it. It goes without saying that if Obama does even half of what Bush has done for AIDS sufferers in Africa, he will be -- in the eyes of those same people -- a candidate for canonization.

Of course the left can say whatever they like about George Bush and the war in Iraq and the war on terror. But when he does something completely in line with their own stated principles and values, it is simply mean-spirited of them to deny him his due.

Copyright © 2008 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.

No Bush doesn't deserve credit for AIDS funding. He tried to block an international move to educate teens about AIDS because of his belief of chastity before marriage. He insisted that the UN stop using generic drugs, thereby raising the costs of treating AIDS, and cutting the number of people treated. (But big Pharma companies would benefit.) Only this year did he actually increase monies being spent in Africa on AIDS. And Republicans in Congress worked hard to block that!

Bush has been a disaster, not only for this country, but the world. Shame on you for trying to rewrite history to make him look better. :mad:

Generic drugs for treatment for AIDS?? Most drugs have not been out long enough to have results back, let alone a generic available.
 

VanC

Well-known member
fff said:
No Bush doesn't deserve credit for AIDS funding. He tried to block an international move to educate teens about AIDS because of his belief of chastity before marriage. He insisted that the UN stop using generic drugs, thereby raising the costs of treating AIDS, and cutting the number of people treated. (But big Pharma companies would benefit.) Only this year did he actually increase monies being spent in Africa on AIDS. And Republicans in Congress worked hard to block that!

Bush has been a disaster, not only for this country, but the world. Shame on you for trying to rewrite history to make him look better. :mad:

Bush Has Quietly Tripled Aid to Africa


By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 31, 2006; Page A04

President Bush's legacy is sure to be defined by his wielding of U.S. military power in Afghanistan and Iraq, but there is another, much softer and less-noticed effort by his administration in foreign affairs: a dramatic increase in U.S. aid to Africa.

The president has tripled direct humanitarian and development aid to the world's most impoverished continent since taking office and recently vowed to double that increased amount by 2010 -- to nearly $9 billion.

The moves have surprised -- and pleased -- longtime supporters of assistance for Africa, who note that because Bush has received little support from African American voters, he has little obvious political incentive for his interest.

"I think the Bush administration deserves pretty high marks in terms of increasing aid to Africa," said Steve Radelet, a senior fellow at the Center for Global Development.

Bush has increased direct development and humanitarian aid to Africa to more than $4 billion a year from $1.4 billion in 2001, according to the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. And four African nations -- Sudan, Ethiopia, Egypt and Uganda -- rank among the world's top 10 recipients in aid from the United States.

Beyond increasing aid to Africa, Bush has met with nearly three dozen African heads of state during his six years in office. He visited Africa in his first term, and aides say he hopes to make a return visit next year.

Although some activists criticize Bush for not doing more to end the ongoing genocide in the Darfur region of Sudan, others credit him for playing a role in ending deadly conflicts in Liberia, the Congo and other parts of Sudan. Meanwhile, Bush has overseen a steady rise in U.S. trade with Africa, which has doubled since 2001.

"He should be known for increasing -- doubling development assistance and tripling it to Africa after a period in which U.S. development assistance was essentially flat for decades," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in a recent interview with the Associated Press. "He should be known for the largest single investment in AIDS and malaria, the biggest health investment of any government program ever."

To many longtime Africa supporters, all of this is surprising for a president who is often criticized as lacking curiosity about much of the world and who heads a political party traditionally skeptical of the efficacy of foreign aid.

But attacking African poverty has become a growing priority of some of the religious groups at the core of Bush's political base, and some lawmakers credit them with stoking the president's interest in the subject.

"The evangelical community raised the awareness of HIV and AIDS to the president," said Rep. Donald M. Payne (N.J.), the top-ranking Democrat on the House International Relations subcommittee on Africa. "When the Bush administration came in, HIV and AIDS were not an overwhelming priority. Now we have seen a total metamorphosis."

A very large proportion of foreign funding for responses to the AIDS epidemic is provided by donor governments. This money is usually given in the form of bilateral donations, i.e. donations straight from one government to another. The top six donors are America, Japan, France, the UK, Germany, and the Netherlands.5 Over the past few years, AIDS funding from donor governments has risen significantly.6

The American government donates a substantial amount of money for the AIDS epidemic. In 2007 the United States accounted for more than 40 percent of disbursements by governments.7

In his State of the Union address in January 2003, President Bush announced the creation of PEPFAR, the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, a commitment to significantly increase US spending on HIV/AIDS initiatives around the world.8 Planned to run for five years, PEPFAR intended to direct US$15 billion to places where it is most needed. As of 2008, $18 billion had been spent and plans to extend the spending for a further 5 years are being negotiated.

US aid to fight AIDS in poor countries, mostly in Africa, totaled $500 million in 2000. It is now at $18 billion and Bush wants to double it. That DID NOT happen just in the past year.

Bush DID NOT try to block AIDS education to teens as has been stated by the left wing Bush-hating sites that you frequent. His administration simply wanted that education to include the teaching of abstinence as the first defense against the spread of AIDS. I would hope that even you know that sex with multiple partners is the number one culprit in the spread of AIDS. It should also be noted that in those countries that took the abstinence approach, there was a much quicker and more dramatic decline in cases of AIDS than in those countries that simply handed out condoms and little else. Like it or not, condoms aren't always effective in preventing the spread of STDs. Abstinence is.

The Bush administration was wary at first of using untested generic drugs that might do more harm than good. Would you be in favor of using the entire continent of Africa as guinea pigs? Surely not. Good, cheap, generic drugs are now available and are being shipped to Africa as we speak, and have been for many years. Not only that, most of the red tape in the process has been removed, speeding up the developement, testing, and approval of these drugs.

Why does the idea that Bush might have done some good in this world bother you so much? Is it because evangelical Christians urged him to do so? After all, your disdain for Christians has been well documented on this forum and over on CT. Heck, awhile back you even posted about how some of the folks at Focus on the Family were being laid off. Really put you in a good mood, didn't it? :roll:

Shame on me? No, shame on you for being so hateful and black-hearted that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge the good side of someone.
 

fff

Well-known member
VanC said:
Bush DID NOT try to block AIDS education to teens as has been stated by the left wing Bush-hating sites that you frequent. His administration simply wanted that education to include the teaching of abstinence as the first defense against the spread of AIDS. I would hope that even you know that sex with multiple partners is the number one culprit in the spread of AIDS. It should also be noted that in those countries that took the abstinence approach, there was a much quicker and more dramatic decline in cases of AIDS than in those countries that simply handed out condoms and little else. Like it or not, condoms aren't always effective in preventing the spread of STDs. Abstinence is.

The Bush administration was wary at first of using untested generic drugs that might do more harm than good. Would you be in favor of using the entire continent of Africa as guinea pigs? Surely not. Good, cheap, generic drugs are now available and are being shipped to Africa as we speak, and have been for many years. Not only that, most of the red tape in the process has been removed, speeding up the developement, testing, and approval of these drugs.

Why does the idea that Bush might have done some good in this world bother you so much? Is it because evangelical Christians urged him to do so? After all, your disdain for Christians has been well documented on this forum and over on CT. Heck, awhile back you even posted about how some of the folks at Focus on the Family were being laid off. Really put you in a good mood, didn't it? :roll:

Shame on me? No, shame on you for being so hateful and black-hearted that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge the good side of someone.

You can rant about "left wing" sites all you want, but Bush did try to block AIDS education for teenagers. After all, teenagers shouldn't be having sex. So why did they need AIDS education? :roll:

Refusing to use generic drugs meant costs were higher for treatment, but fewer people could be treated. Much of that increase you clain (WITHOUT A LINK TO BACK IT UP) went to Big Phara instead of smaller generic drug companies.

I refuse to ignore stupid posts like your original one. Bush, Rice, Hadley and probably others are going to the talk shows and saying "oh, I'm soooo sorry that we had bad intelligence that led us to attack Iraq." That's a crock. And the newspeople are not even questioning the line the Bushes are putting out! There was intelligence that showed Saddam was NOT a threat. Bush classified it and released "intelligence" to back him up on the invasion. I'm not going to pretend that Bush is anything but the disaster for the world that he is. No. Shame on you for pretending otherwise.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
fff said:
Refusing to use generic drugs meant costs were higher for treatment, but fewer people could be treated. Much of that increase you clain (WITHOUT A LINK TO BACK IT UP) went to Big Phara instead of smaller generic drug companies.

I refuse to ignore stupid posts like your original one. Bush, Rice, Hadley and probably others are going to the talk shows and saying "oh, I'm soooo sorry that we had bad intelligence that led us to attack Iraq." That's a crock. And the newspeople are not even questioning the line the Bushes are putting out! There was intelligence that showed Saddam was NOT a threat. Bush classified it and released "intelligence" to back him up on the invasion. I'm not going to pretend that Bush is anything but the disaster for the world that he is. No. Shame on you for pretending otherwise.

If you can afford name brand drugs instead of generic, by all means you should buy them. If you can't, don't look a gift horse in the mouth while on welfare.

Have you ever consider a career in politics fff? You would be great at fillibustering. Just rattle on for as long as you need to.
 
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