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"PRESSURE" On Obama...Mansion Mistake

Mike

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece

You might also note that it takes a foreign news media to address this in a big way. :roll:
 
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Mike said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece

You might also note that it takes a foreign news media to address this in a big way. :roll:

Bill probably called in a debt or blackmailed one of his old Oxford "non inhaling" classmates.....
 

aplusmnt

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I wonder how the NY Times could miss such an article of corruption.

I also wonder if there is any ties to the fact that Barack Hussein Obama has Muslim name and Muslim ties and that Mr Rezko was born in Syria?
 

Red Barn Angus

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I hope that more and more of this discussion comes to the surface. I am just amazed that so many people have jumped on the Obama bandwagon. He has offered nothing but rhetoric and talk of change. He denies any Muslim connection but who wouldn't. In my eyes it simply is not worth the risk. What if he really did have a Muslim connection and became President? He's already soft on defense. I am not fond of the others either but, at least, they are American. Obama is scary.
 
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Red Barn Angus said:
I hope that more and more of this discussion comes to the surface. I am just amazed that so many people have jumped on the Obama bandwagon. He has offered nothing but rhetoric and talk of change. He denies any Muslim connection but who wouldn't. In my eyes it simply is not worth the risk. What if he really did have a Muslim connection and became President? He's already soft on defense. I am not fond of the others either but, at least, they are American. Obama is scary.

Problem is-- so are the other two...Hitlery's (and Bills) corruption record stands alone--McCain is echoing GW, who's unpopular globalist actions/inactions and nationbuilding got us into the economic mess we're in- with the country under invasion from Mexico/Central America- and all McCain can do is make jokes about 100 years of war- and sing Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran :roll:- and scare mothers/grandmothers across the country ...

CHANGE is what the majority of Americans want.....Its the Populist reaction/overreaction to a President/Administration that arrogantly forgot "we the people" and that being "Commander in Chief" is only for the military- and not the people....
 

aplusmnt

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Goodpasture said:
Steve said:
OldTimer
CHANGE is what the majority of Americans want.

so your saying issues don't matter... ??? :roll:
Change IS the issue.

Change is not always a good thing, a rancher might decide to change his terminal bull from a Char to Dexter that is change but I doubt it would be good change come time to sell them calves at the sale!

Positive Change in Washington is something we would all like to see, but to trust someone blindly to make change with out ever hearing any substance on what change is pure stupid!
 

Goodpasture

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aplusmnt said:
Positive Change in Washington is something we would all like to see, but to trust someone blindly to make change
At this point anything is better than what we have. but there is not "blind"selection going on. We know what McCain will do, we have had 8 years of Clinton, so we know what that is all about. Obama is the only change that represents significant change opportunity.

aplusmnt said:
with out ever hearing any substance on what change is pure stupid!
After seeing your blind support of dubya, I figured you would be comfortable with pure stupid.
 

jigs

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I want change too, but selling out America to piss ant countries around the world is not what I want...and that is the Obama plan. while Hillery wants to gut our country and give it away to the highest bidder....
 
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jigs said:
I want change too, but selling out America to p*** ant countries around the world is not what I want...and that is the Obama plan. while Hillery wants to gut our country and give it away to the highest bidder....

If anything is left to give away by the time we get rid of GW :shock: :wink: :(
 

Red Barn Angus

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GP, sometimes you want to be careful what you wish for. You want a man with no program, soft on defense and a muslim name....yes, that is change but I don't think any of us would look good wearing a towel on our heads.
 

Goodpasture

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In a world where Muslims are considered both our strongest allies (Saudi Arabia, the Royal Family of Kuwait, Dubai, Jordan, Indonesia, etc) and our greatest enemies. I think it would be wise to have someone in the Oval Office that does not have a knee jerk reaction to Muslims. And do not think that Muslims move in lock step with each other......to do so would be to ignore the history of Iraq and Iran (which dumya did). From what I heard last night, Obama is NOT soft on defense (If, as you say, he has Muslim tendencies, show me a pacifist or non-military oriented Muslim anywhere in the world.....I don't think the "Prince of Peace" means anything to them). I will be happy to have a President that can articulate (tell dumya to say that fast three times) a direction and is willing to leave it to the peoples representatives (we call it Congress) to develop the programs to implement the vision.

I think you should think twice before you support a President who plans on being at war for 100 years at the cost of $275,000,000 a day. Unless, of course, you have plans to pay the bill as it comes due.
 

Mike

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"I think you should think twice before you support a President who plans on being at war for 100 years at the cost of $275,000,000 a day."

This statement by you is a lie. McCain never said he "plans" on being in Iraq for 100 years. It is not his intention, nor anyone's intention to stay that long.

His statement was simply; "Maybe 100". He meant that he would within his power, win this war.

100 would be OK with me if the war stays over there. I'll gladly pay my share too.

Do you have any idea how much of your purported $275 Mil goes back in to the U.S. economy?
 

aplusmnt

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Goodpasture said:
In a world where Muslims are considered both our strongest allies (Saudi Arabia, the Royal Family of Kuwait, Dubai, Jordan, Indonesia, etc) and our greatest enemies. I think it would be wise to have someone in the Oval Office that does not have a knee jerk reaction to Muslims. And do not think that Muslims move in lock step with each other......to do so would be to ignore the history of Iraq and Iran (which dumya did). From what I heard last night, Obama is NOT soft on defense (If, as you say, he has Muslim tendencies, show me a pacifist or non-military oriented Muslim anywhere in the world.....I don't think the "Prince of Peace" means anything to them). I will be happy to have a President that can articulate (tell dumya to say that fast three times) a direction and is willing to leave it to the peoples representatives (we call it Congress) to develop the programs to implement the vision.

I think you should think twice before you support a President who plans on being at war for 100 years at the cost of $275,000,000 a day. Unless, of course, you have plans to pay the bill as it comes due.

The fact that you think there is Muslim nations that are of our STRONGEST allies, shows how ignorant you are on this subject.

Anyone can articulate things if they go around spouting out feel good phrases. True articulation will be how he can talk about the meat and potatoes of this countries needs instead of lifting from others. I have a dream is nice and emotional and all, but a true president finds a way to let Iran know if they don't quit what they are doing it will be no more dreams for them.
 
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McCain has an uphill battle- on an "oily" slope.....

From the Votemaster:
The NY Times has a story on gas price increases. With oil over $100 a barrel now, gas prices could hit $4 a gallon, tipping the country into recession. Historically, recessions in election years are not good for the party in power and may be especially bad news for John McCain since he has repeatedly said he is not an expert on the economy. In truth, by the time the next President is inaugurated on Jan. 20, it will be too late to do much about the recession, but Presidential candidates are expected to claim they will magically fix the economy, even though whatever the new President does will be too little too late.

McCain is in a funny situation. If things remain quiet in Iraq, people tend to forget about it, which is bad for him because foreign policy and military affairs are his great strengths. He would much rather the election were about who will be the best commander-in-chief than who would be the best economist-in-chief. On the other hand, if Iraq flares up, it will remind a lot of people that he said he is willing to stay in Iraq 100 years if that was needed to achieve victory. Many voters do not want their sons and grandsons and great grandsons (and daughters) in Iraq for 100 years no matter what. The best scenario for McCain is that the Iraqis come to a political settlement, the war there ends, and the troops can come home because there is no more war. But there is little he can do to push things in that direction. It is doubtful that the Shiite and Sunni leaders will get together and say: "Look, we better end this war fast or McCain's gonna get clobbered." They have their own agendas.
 

Goodpasture

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aplusmnt said:
The fact that you think there is Muslim nations that are of our STRONGEST allies, shows how ignorant you are on this subject.
and your implication that the Saudi's are not allies in the region shows how incredibly stupid you are. Moreover, if you are not aware that the Bin Laden family is one of the bush Family friends you're more than stupid.

aplusmnt said:
Anyone can articulate things.........
Prove it.......quote Dubya..........
 

jigs

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I find it so funny to see your posts based on facts and honesty.... then your signature shows OU national Champs 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000......

but you fail to report that for every National Title OU got, they have an average of 4 years probation for NCAA rules violations.......


typical Liberal.... print what you need to mislead the public.
 
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