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Prison Population Changing In Canada

Mike

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Baffled race-blind liberals in the Canadian government are reportedly besides themselves over the news that nonwhites now constitute 40 percent of that country’s prison population, and the costs of keeping them is rising to billions of dollars per year.



Figures which emerged in a recently released report issued by the ombudsman for federal inmates in Canada included the following:

- Amerinds constitute 22 percent of that country’s prison population, although they only make up 4 percent of the total population.

- Blacks make up a further 10 percent of the total prison population, yet according to official statistics make up only 2.9 percent of the country’s population.

- A further 10 percent of prisoners are classed as “non-Caucasian.” Although their racial origin is not specified, it is likely that they are Chinese or other Asian.

- Black inmates are more likely than the general inmate population to do time in maximum security and solitary confinement.

- Black inmates are less likely to hold prison jobs—their prison unemployment rate is 7 percent, while the rate for all prisoners is just 1.5 percent.

- Black inmates are also less likely to be released on parole, mainly because of behavioral problems which disqualify them.

- The incarceration rate of blacks has rocketed by more than 80 percent in the last ten years.

- The incarceration rate of “aboriginal women” also increased by 80 percent in the past decade.

- At the same time, the number of “Caucasian” inmates declined by three percent.

- The federal budget for the Correctional Service of Canada (CSC) has increased 40 percent to $2.6 billion in the past five years, most of it being spent on building 2,700 new cells.

“Today, four in 10 of the federal inmate population is comprised of non-Caucasian offenders,” the ombudsman report said, adding that black inmates are “over-represented,” particularly in maximum-security institutions.

Of course, in usual fashion, rather than face the reality of race and a worldwide nonwhite tendency to crime no matter what the environment, the Canadian liberals have tried to blame “white racism” for the figures.

According to the ombudsman report, it is all due to “systemic racism” and in one area of Toronto, a class-action lawsuit has been filed over alleged “racial profiling by police.”

Once again, rather than face the realities of racial differences, and the psychology which underpins them, liberals find it easier just to blame whites, like they always do.
 

Broke Cowboy

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If you import trouble from troubled lands - do you TRULY believe it will not manifest itself here? Are people that stupid?

Yeah, in fact they are. They are taught to be like that in school now.

And .......

Just what the hell is am Amerind?

An Indian?

Sheesh - why not call them what they are.

On a side note - I am planning to sue the UK government for starving my family intentionally in Ireland during the potato famine - more than two thirds of them died according to old records.

There MUST be some government money for me - if not I will protest to the highest levels.

I AM A VICTIM!!

Best to all

bc
 

Kato

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Where did you get that quote? And what is an Amerind?

Prison population also varies according to what part of the country it is. In our province, aboriginals make up a big part of the prison population. It's directly related to poverty levels. Just as it is in inner cities in the U.S. If you're born with nothing, and grow up being told that your prospects are nothing, then you've got nothing to lose, do you?

BTW, in Canada Liberal and Conservative are political parties, not necessarily the left and right wing labels that are used in the U.S.
 

Steve

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It's directly related to poverty levels. Just as it is in inner cities in the U.S. If you're born with nothing, and grow up being told that your prospects are nothing, then you've got nothing to lose, do you?

lets see,.. been there.. heard that.. forgot to listen to them...

it isn't about race.. it is about taking responsibility for oneself and ones fate..

only you can decide that you are someone,.. can be someone,.. and can have prospects.. and can take the opportunities presented to you..
 

Mike

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It's directly related to poverty levels. Just as it is in inner cities in the U.S. If you're born with nothing, and grow up being told that your prospects are nothing, then you've got nothing to lose, do you?

How is rape attributed to poverty levels? That is simply a sheer disregard for others and has nothing to do with poverty.

Just how is freedom (being incarcerated) "nothing to lose" to some people?
 

Faster horses

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Broke Cowboy said:
If you import trouble from troubled lands - do you TRULY believe it will not manifest itself here? Are people that stupid?

Yeah, in fact they are. They are taught to be like that in school now.

And .......

Just what the hell is am Amerind?

An Indian?

Sheesh - why not call them what they are.

On a side note - I am planning to sue the UK government for starving my family intentionally in Ireland during the potato famine - more than two thirds of them died according to old records.

There MUST be some government money for me - if not I will protest to the highest levels.

I AM A VICTIM!!

Best to all

bc

Why not???? Go for it!!! :p :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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What we hear from liberals/progressives in the US, is that if their Country was more socialist (Health Care etc), like Canada, they wouldn't have the poverty issues that they contend with. :???:

So, why are we dealing with poverty issues....if our "socialized system" is the answer to poverty issues?

Why are the supposed poverty issues changing from one ethnic minority to another?
 

Tam

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hypocritexposer said:
What we hear from liberals/progressives in the US, is that if their Country was more socialist (Health Care etc), like Canada, they wouldn't have the poverty issues that they contend with. :???:

So, why are we dealing with poverty issues....if our "socialized system" is the answer to poverty issues?

Why are the supposed poverty issues changing from one ethnic minority to another?

But then if you believe everything the Americans have been hearing about our system you would think that we all get FREE healthcare and are not suffering from any health issues as we can see a doctor any time we please. :roll:
 

Broke Cowboy

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Tam said:
hypocritexposer said:
What we hear from liberals/progressives in the US, is that if their Country was more socialist (Health Care etc), like Canada, they wouldn't have the poverty issues that they contend with. :???:

So, why are we dealing with poverty issues....if our "socialized system" is the answer to poverty issues?

Why are the supposed poverty issues changing from one ethnic minority to another?

But then if you believe everything the Americans have been hearing about our system you would think that we all get FREE healthcare and are not suffering from any health issues as we can see a doctor any time we please. :roll:

How true.

We bought this place 12 years ago. Since moving here my wife still does not have a family doctor - none available to take on new patients - so she uses a walk in clinic at best and emergency at worst

Got to love it - the way of the future due to socialized medicine

bc
 

Tam

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Broke Cowboy said:
Tam said:
hypocritexposer said:
What we hear from liberals/progressives in the US, is that if their Country was more socialist (Health Care etc), like Canada, they wouldn't have the poverty issues that they contend with. :???:

So, why are we dealing with poverty issues....if our "socialized system" is the answer to poverty issues?

Why are the supposed poverty issues changing from one ethnic minority to another?

But then if you believe everything the Americans have been hearing about our system you would think that we all get FREE healthcare and are not suffering from any health issues as we can see a doctor any time we please. :roll:

How true.

We bought this place 12 years ago. Since moving here my wife still does not have a family doctor - none available to take on new patients - so she uses a walk in clinic at best and emergency at worst

Got to love it - the way of the future due to socialized medicine

bc

Your story, which is repeated millions of times over, is what makes me shake my head every time I hear Obama and his talking heads saying Obamacare is going to take pressure off the ER's. and everyone is going to be healthier as they can see a doctor anytime they want.

The US citizens are not going to have access to doctors like Obama is promising, as the doctors are going to booked solid with people THINKING they have a right to see a doctor because they are carrying a Medicaid card and the ER's are going to be overrun by those that just can't wait to have that running nose or hangnail looked at. The ones that are going to pay the price are the one really needing a doctors attention as they are going to be the ones sitting on waiting lists just hoping they get tended to before it is to late. I just wish more Americans would look at what people in Canada go through to get their SO CALLED FREE HEALTHCARE and not just believe all the hype the Dems spew. It is not as rosy as they want everyone to believe, and it costs a lot more than they think in money and suffering.
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
and as bad as it is in Canada...we're lucky we don't live in the UK, with the immigration pressure they have.

yep the Brits are starting to really regret this Euro crap..

When you give away free medical, housing and cheques.. what could go wrong?
 

hypocritexposer

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What Drives Success?

A SEEMINGLY un-American fact about America today is that for some groups, much more than others, upward mobility and the American dream are alive and well. It may be taboo to say it, but certain ethnic, religious and national-origin groups are doing strikingly better than Americans overall.

Indian-Americans earn almost double the national figure (roughly $90,000 per year in median household income versus $50,000). Iranian-, Lebanese- and Chinese-Americans are also top-earners. In the last 30 years, Mormons have become leaders of corporate America, holding top positions in many of America’s most recognizable companies. These facts don’t make some groups “better” than others, and material success cannot be equated with a well-lived life. But willful blindness to facts is never a good policy.

Jewish success is the most historically fraught and the most broad-based. Although Jews make up only about 2 percent of the United States’ adult population, they account for a third of the current Supreme Court; over two-thirds of Tony Award-winning lyricists and composers; and about a third of American Nobel laureates.

The most comforting explanation of these facts is that they are mere artifacts of class — rich parents passing on advantages to their children — or of immigrants arriving in this country with high skill and education levels. Important as these factors are, they explain only a small part of the picture.

Today’s wealthy Mormon businessmen often started from humble origins. Although India and China send the most immigrants to the United States through employment-based channels, almost half of all Indian immigrants and over half of Chinese immigrants do not enter the country under those criteria. Many are poor and poorly educated. Comprehensive data published by the Russell Sage Foundation in 2013 showed that the children of Chinese, Korean and Vietnamese immigrants experienced exceptional upward mobility regardless of their parents’ socioeconomic or educational background.

Take New York City’s selective public high schools like Stuyvesant and Bronx Science, which are major Ivy League feeders. For the 2013 school year, Stuyvesant High School offered admission, based solely on a standardized entrance exam, to nine black students, 24 Hispanics, 177 whites and 620 Asians. Among the Asians of Chinese origin, many are the children of restaurant workers and other working-class immigrants.

Merely stating the fact that certain groups do better than others — as measured by income, test scores and so on — is enough to provoke a firestorm in America today, and even charges of racism. The irony is that the facts actually debunk racial stereotypes.

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

Cuban-Americans in Miami rose in one generation from widespread penury to relative affluence. By 1990, United States-born Cuban children — whose parents had arrived as exiles, many with practically nothing — were twice as likely as non-Hispanic whites to earn over $50,000 a year. All three Hispanic United States senators are Cuban-Americans.

Meanwhile, some Asian-American groups — Cambodian- and Hmong-Americans, for example — are among the poorest in the country, as are some predominantly white communities in central Appalachia.

MOST fundamentally, groups rise and fall over time. The fortunes of WASP elites have been declining for decades. In 1960, second-generation Greek-Americans reportedly had the second-highest income of any census-tracked group. Group success in America often tends to dissipate after two generations. Thus while Asian-American kids overall had SAT scores 143 points above average in 2012 — including a 63-point edge over whites — a 2005 study of over 20,000 adolescents found that third-generation Asian-American students performed no better academically than white students.

The fact that groups rise and fall this way punctures the whole idea of “model minorities” or that groups succeed because of innate, biological differences. Rather, there are cultural forces at work.

It turns out that for all their diversity, the strikingly successful groups in America today share three traits that, together, propel success. The first is a superiority complex — a deep-seated belief in their exceptionality. The second appears to be the opposite — insecurity, a feeling that you or what you’ve done is not good enough. The third is impulse control.

Any individual, from any background, can have what we call this Triple Package of traits. But research shows that some groups are instilling them more frequently than others, and that they are enjoying greater success.

It’s odd to think of people feeling simultaneously superior and insecure. Yet it’s precisely this unstable combination that generates drive: a chip on the shoulder, a goading need to prove oneself. Add impulse control — the ability to resist temptation — and the result is people who systematically sacrifice present gratification in pursuit of future attainment.

Ironically, each element of the Triple Package violates a core tenet of contemporary American thinking.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?ref=todayspaper

Amy Chua and Jed Rubenfeld are professors at Yale Law School and the authors of the forthcoming book “The Triple Package: How Three Unlikely Traits Explain the Rise and Fall of Cultural Groups in America.”
 
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