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Protecting Wyoming Gun-Owners

Traveler

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http://k2radio.com/wyoming-lawmakers-propose-gun-protection-legislation/
Several Wyoming lawmakers are proposing legislation designed to protect gun-owners from any potential federal firearm ban. The “Firearms Protection Act” bill, introduced this week, would make any federal law banning semi-automatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state’s boundaries.


Anyone trying to enforce a federal gun ban could face felony charges under the proposal. It also includes a provision allowing the Wyoming Attorney General’s office to defend any state resident against any federal firearm ban.
 
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Anonymous

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Article VI, Clause 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.


Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, Federal Statutes, and U.S. Treaties as "the supreme law of the land." The text decrees these to be the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state. (Note that the word "shall" is used, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.)

The "supremacy clause" is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts. - United States Senate

Looks to me like the Wyoming Legislature and Gov are wasting their time (and taxpayer paid wages) while just blowing smoke up some gullible folks arses.. Maybe if they have so much free time on their hands they should cut back the number of days they are in session stuffing their pockets with taxpayers salary...
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Article VI, Clause 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.


Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, Federal Statutes, and U.S. Treaties as "the supreme law of the land." The text decrees these to be the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state. (Note that the word "shall" is used, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.)

The "supremacy clause" is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts. - United States Senate

Looks to me like the Wyoming Legislature and Gov are wasting their time (and taxpayer paid wages) while just blowing smoke up some gullible folks arses.. Maybe if they have so much free time on their hands they should cut back the number of days they are in session stuffing their pockets with taxpayers salary...



Looks to me as the Feds. better plan on having a Constitutional Convention, if they want to change the "Law of the Land" then.
 

Mike

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BULLPUCKEY! In 2009 Montana passed a law that preempted Federal Gun Laws by declaring any gun manufactured in Montana and not subject to the Interstate Commerce laws thereby nullifies any Federal Jurisdiction on Gun Statutes.


Funny that Washington & Colorado have passed "State" statutes legalizing marijuana and Federal Law is explicitly against it's legalization. :lol:

California has been selling "medicinal" pot for many moons now even though that's against the Fed's law.
 

hypocritexposer

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Mike said:
Funny that Washington & Colorado have passed "State" statutes legalizing marijuana and Federal Law is explicitly against it's legalization. :lol:

California has been selling "medicinal" pot for many moons now even though that's against the Fed's law.


In an interview with Barbara Walters, President Obama explained that he has “bigger fish to fry” than enforcing our nation’s marijuana laws, noting that countering Colorado’s and Washington’s defiance is not a “top priority” for his administration. This is a particularly “tough problem,” he said, because as the head of the executive branch, he’s “supposed to be carrying out the laws.”
 

Mike

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Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law

Executive Summary – The USA state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY. The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana. The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal – confiscation of privately owned firearms.

Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch. Montana could go to voting for secession from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obamas face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.

Important Points – If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side. Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA, the very document that empowers the USA.

Silencers made in Montana and sol in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors.

Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back.

Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.

There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana. Way to go Montana.

Discussion – Let us see what Obama does. If he hits Montana hard they will probably vote to secede from the USA. The governor of Texas has already been refusing Federal money because he does not want to agree to the conditions that go with it and he has been saying secession is a right they have as sort of a threat. Things are no longer the same with the USA. Do not be deceived by Obama acting as if all is the same, it is not.
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Article VI, Clause 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.


Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, Federal Statutes, and U.S. Treaties as "the supreme law of the land." The text decrees these to be the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state. (Note that the word "shall" is used, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.)

The "supremacy clause" is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts. - United States Senate

Looks to me like the Wyoming Legislature and Gov are wasting their time (and taxpayer paid wages) while just blowing smoke up some gullible folks arses.. Maybe if they have so much free time on their hands they should cut back the number of days they are in session stuffing their pockets with taxpayers salary...

Don't you worry about Wyoming, OT. They run a tight ship and if you
notice, their state is always in the BLACK. And they have guts...
Washington would do well to take a lesson from them.
 

hopalong

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Look at who is trying to blow smoke......non other that our supposed law expert.... :roll: :roll: :roll: Doesn't your butt hurt oldtimer, You sure get knocked on it a lot with your kinow it all attitude that turns out to be crap.. :wink:
 

Mike

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According to a 2012 study by 24/7 Wall Street, Wyoming is the 2nd best run state taking into account debt per capita, budget deficits, unemployment, median household income, and the percentage of the of the population below the poverty line. The best run state is North Dakota and the worst run state is California.
 

Faster horses

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Mike said:
According to a 2012 study by 24/7 Wall Street, Wyoming is the 2nd best run state taking into account debt per capita, budget deficits, unemployment, median household income, and the percentage of the of the population below the poverty line. The best run state is North Dakota and the worst run state is California.

Thanks for that info, Mike.
I will add here that Wyoming is a Right-to-Work state. And they have
no state income tax.

They wisely use their natural resources.
 

Mike

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Faster horses said:
Mike said:
According to a 2012 study by 24/7 Wall Street, Wyoming is the 2nd best run state taking into account debt per capita, budget deficits, unemployment, median household income, and the percentage of the of the population below the poverty line. The best run state is North Dakota and the worst run state is California.

Thanks for that info, Mike.
I will add here that Wyoming is a Right-to-Work state. And they have
no state income tax.

They wisely use their natural resources.

Buckwheat's wrath will soon rear it's ugly head in Wyoming due to his hatred for coal use. Wyoming is the #1 coal producing state.
 

hypocritexposer

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That the several States composing, the United States of America, are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they constituted a general government for special purposes — delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the general government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force:

The Kentucky Resolutions of 1798


"Jefferson and Madison argued that...

1. The federal government ought to be limited.

2. The federal government tends to exceed its constitutional limits.

3. The best check on excessive federal power is nullification of federal laws by state legislatures."
 

Faster horses

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Mike said:
Faster horses said:

Thanks for that info, Mike.
I will add here that Wyoming is a Right-to-Work state. And they have
no state income tax.

They wisely use their natural resources.

Buckwheat's wrath will soon rear it's ugly head in Wyoming due to his hatred for coal use. Wyoming is the #1 coal producing state.

It's already happening. The residents of Gillette, known as the Energy
Capital of the World, are very concerned.

And then my girlfriend from California who years ago inherited a ranch
in Wyoming that she dearly loves....told me they sold a 320 that didn't
fit with the ranch as it was located several miles away--were glad they sold it in 2012 as now (2013) the mineral rights (they held them on this piece) cannot be sold to anyone but the United States Government. I questioned her on this and she told me of all the places she inquired (her attorney, title company, etc) confirmed what she had read. It's true...however, I am going to look into it as well. She says if the US Government is the only buyer of minerals, they will pay whatever they wish. :shock:

This is the first I had heard of this; does anyone reading this know
of it?
 

jodywy

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County sheriffs have the final say there is case law to stand up to that
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/us_constitution/news.php?q=1270570457
 
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jodywy said:
County sheriffs have the final say there is case law to stand up to that
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/us_constitution/news.php?q=1270570457


Another rightwingernut group blowing false smoke up folks rears:

United States District Court

District of Wyoming

Our office has been receiving inquiries regarding the case of
Castaneda v. United

States, No. 96-CV-099.

This was a civil case arising out of an alleged entry into an
apartment by law

enforcement officials in June of 1993. The Plaintiffs, who were
staying in the apartment,

alleged that the officials violated their civil rights. They filed
an action against the United

States, unnamed INS agents, Big Horn County, the County Sheriff, and
unnamed

Sheriff's deputies.

The complaint was filed in the Federal District Court for the
District of Wyoming in May,

1996. The federal defendants were primarily represented by attorneys
with the

Constitutional Torts Branch of the Civil Division of the Department
of Justice. The

County defendants were represented by non-federal attorneys. The
case was settled

following a settlement conference in 1997. The court did not rule on
Plaintiffs' claims or

any other legal issues in the case. After the settlement conference,
Big Horn County

Sheriff, David M. Mattis, issued a "Policy." In the "Policy," the
Sheriff purports to impose

conditions upon federal law enforcement operations in the County.

We have learned that it has been reported, erroneously, that the
court made a legal

ruling in the Castaneda case regarding the authority of federal law
enforcement officials

to conduct operations in the County. There was no such ruling or
decision. Instead, the

court simply granted a motion, submitted jointly by all the parties,
to dismiss the case


because the parties had settled.

This Court has never issued an order which would serve to limit the
lawful activities and

duties of federal law enforcement officers and other federal
employees in the District of

Wyoming.

Furthermore, this Court has never made the comments attributed to it
which purports to

advise state officers they can prohibit federal law enforcement
officers or agents from

entering a Wyoming County. Those alleged quotations are utterly
false.

Any person who interferes with federal officers in performance of
their duties subjects

themselves to the risk of criminal prosecution.


William F. Downes

Chief Judge, District of Wyoming

www.wyd.uscourts.gov/pdfforms/96cv99.pdf

If you think that Federal Agents are notifying local authorities of all the actions they are doing- and before they are doing it- you need to take a trip to Disneyworld and play with Goofey... I'm sorry- but all that is not true....Federal Agents try to work with local officials- but there is too much going on to get permission every time they acted....The Local Sheriff would get nothing else done...

There are several medical marijuana dealers (legal under State law) in western Montana that just got sentenced because of a raid by Federal Agents...
 

jodywy

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http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/09/22/wyoming-sheriffs-told-federal-batf-irs-agents-to-abide-by-the-constitution-or-face-immediate-arrest/
 

jodywy

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http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/09/21/the-sheriff-has-more-power-in-his-county-than-the-president-of-the-united-states-u-s-constitution-u-s-supreme-court-quashes-obamas-claim-to-supremacy-clause/
 
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