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Proud To Be American?

hypocritexposer

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And now the FED is going to be in charge of oversight and regulating the banks? Is there any doubt about what is causing the anger? Only to those die-hard Obama fans. Good luck.

Proud To Be American? You Should Be Ashamed

We have seen the largest looting operation in history perpetrated against The American People.

Over $5 trillion dollars in junk securities were marketed and sold. They had a real value of about $2 trillion dollars; the other $3 trillion, roughly, was pure fiction.

The banks created and sold these throughout the world, with the full knowledge and support of Congress, The Fed, and the banks themselves.

It was pure fraud.

Granting someone a "mortgage" based only on whether they can fog a mirror is proof positive of malfeasance, unless you disclose this fact to the buyers of these securities - a fact that was not disclosed until after the securities blew up.

Lenders, builders and others pressured appraisers to "hit the numbers" to support these fraudulent deals. Proof of that is found in the nearly-10-year-old Appraisers Petition bearing thousands of appraiser signatures.

That ratings were a "mistake", either real or intentional, is a matter of now-known historical fact.

Americans have sat on their butts through all of this, allowed their 401ks and IRAs to be trashed, their supposed "home values" to be pumped and then destroyed, and their hopes, dreams, employment and house have all vanished into the ether of fraud.

When this came to light the banks went to Congress, and supported by The Fed's intentional draining of liquidity to create an immediate "crisis", they got a $700 billion bailout bill passed - one that you, your children and grandchildren, will have to pay for.

The government then passed another near-trillion-dollar "stimulus" bill claimed to hold unemployment to 8%. It did not, because it was yet another "papering over" of the fraud, but that bill your children and grandchildren, along with you, will also pay.

Your savings accounts and CDs now yield an effective zero.

Your credit card interest rates have gone from 11% to 29%, all so that the banks can keep granting ill-advised credit to people who can't pay. Those who can pay - the rest of you - are being jacked for 30% a year in interest.

We have seen a few "tea parties" in which a few people showed up and which were immediately panned by "those in power" as "astroturf."

Contrast with this.

A few days ago, Iran held an election. It is alleged that there was massive fraud. The current President claimed victory under less-than-clear circumstances.

The people said "hell no!" in this sort of demonstration:

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That's about 2 million people, out of 70 million population (roughly), or one in thirty-five Iranians in the entire nation who took to the streets to demand justice in a simple vote.

More strikingly, Tehran has a population of roughly 12 million; this means that one in six citizens of the city are standing in that crowd.

This, despite the fact that the government there has been shooting people, has arrested the opposition party and issued an order to burn the ballots so there can be no recount.

This, despite the fact that the Iranian population does not enjoy a Second Amendment, and thus is forced to fight a rogue government with makeshift molotov cocktails, rocks and clubs, should that rogue government choose to shoot.

And this was about an election. A President. One man.

In our nation we have literally had 1/3rd of our GDP - that is, 1/3rd of everything you worked for last year - stolen by a bunch of fraudsters with the explicit cooperation and assistance of the government.

We should be seeing 10 million Americans literally closing Washington DC with peaceful protest in the streets - making the entirety of the downtown inaccessible to vehicles and the normal conduct of business impossible, were Americans to display the same sort of anger over an insult vastly more serious than that served upon the Iranian people.

If one in six Americans had enough in America's big cities, there would be one million people in the Streets of Chicago - enough to fill Chicago's Loop from Lake Michigan to I-90/94 and from The Chicago River to beyond Soldier Field, rendering the city core impassable. (Roughly double the crowd that shows up for the 4th of July Fireworks, to put it in perspective. "Greater Chicagoland" has a population of ~7 million)

The same in NY City would result in a crowd of 3.3 million people.

Where are you America?

In America, if the government turns into a goon squad, you have the constitutionally-protected ability to shoot back. In Iran you have no such ability as the Iranian government has never recognized the unalienable rights as set forth in our Declaration.

So in Iran the population risks mass death to protest.

In America the population risks loss of some income since you'd have to cut work.

The Iranians take to the streets; we take to our couches and have another beer.


Grow a pair of balls America.

The people of Iran are putting us to shame.

PS: Those threats appear not to have been idle either:

BREAKING NEWS: AP photographer sees pro-government militia fire at protesters, killing at least 1

http://market-ticker.org/archives/1122-Proud-To-Be-American-You-Should-Be-Ashamed.html
 

fff

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What anger? I think Americans are smarter than you give them credit for. They know why their 401Ks fell, why the banks were going broke, why the government stepped in with money to keep them afloat. And they know it wasn't Barack Obama or the Democratic Party that was in charge. They know that Dems and Obama have been left with a toxic mess to clean up. They may not agree or like how he's going about it, but he is doing what he thinks is best/right.

To comare us to what's happening in Iran right now is silly. The fact is most Americans agree with what the Obama Administration is doing to try to get our economy jump started. Why would they be out in the streets protesting?
 

hypocritexposer

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The writer of the article is American, and sounds patriotic. The title is his, not mine.
The people of Iran are putting us to shame

And I would expect that many will read the article, and take him up on his advice and be at the many tea parties that are going to be held on July 4.

They will once again protest peacefully, as he suggests.

They'll probably be called "right wing extremists" (or twits), but expect there to more to attend than in April.

http://www.teapartyday.com/

Obama adds 78,000 new employees to government payroll
2009 budget grows to a deficit of $1.8 trillion, more than four times higher than last year’s all time high and 50% of total budget

Are you fed up with a Congress and a president who:

* vote for a $500 billion tax bill without even reading it?
* are spending trillions of borrowed dollars, leaving a debt our great-grandchildren will be paying?
* consistently give special interest groups billions of dollars in earmarks to help get themselves re-elected?
* want to take your wealth and redistribute it to others?
* punish those who practice responsible financial behavior and reward those who do not?
* admit to using the financial hurt of millions as an opportunity to push their political agenda?
* run up trillions of dollars of debt and then sell that debt to countries such as China?
* want government controlled health care?
* want to take away the right to vote with a secret ballot in union elections?
* refuse to stop the flow of millions of illegal immigrants into our country?
* appoint a defender of child pornography to the Number 2 position in the Justice Department?
* want to force doctors and other medical workers to perform abortions against their will?
* want to impose a carbon tax on your electricity, gas and home heating fuels?
* want to reduce your tax deductibility for charitable gifts?
* take money from your family budget to pay for their federal budget?
 

fff

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The people of Iran aren't putting me to shame. I'm more proud to be an American today than during the last eight years. Somehow attacking and virtually destroying a small country (Iraq) for no reason didn't make me feel big and tough. It made me sad and angry. :(

People in the US have the right to protest. And others have the right to snicker and point at them. But, honestly, unless their numbers grow a great deal, don't expect anyone to take the "tea baggers" seriously. (An unfortunate choice of name, wouldn't you say?) :lol:
 

Broke Cowboy

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reader (the Second) said:
How'd you like it if we posted a thread called "Proud to be a Canadian" and lambasted your country and government, you twit?

Actually, we do it pretty regularly ourselves - so you would be entirely welcome to join in - you might actually have a valid point that some of us missed - making our home government bashing an even better experience.

:D

BC
 

Lonecowboy

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fff said:
What anger? I think Americans are smarter than you give them credit for. They know why their 401Ks fell, why the banks were going broke, why the government stepped in with money to keep them afloat. And they know it wasn't Barack Obama or the Democratic Party that was in charge. They know that Dems and Obama have been left with a toxic mess to clean up. They may not agree or like how he's going about it, but he is doing what he thinks is best/right.

To comare us to what's happening in Iran right now is silly. The fact is most Americans agree with what the Obama Administration is doing to try to get our economy jump started. Why would they be out in the streets protesting?


FFF- where did you're FACTS come from??

Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on six out of 10 key issues, including the top issue of the economy.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 45% now trust the GOP more to handle economic issues, while 39% trust Democrats more.

This is the first time in over two years of polling that the GOP has held the advantage on this issue.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues/trust_on_issues
 

Mike

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Broke Cowboy said:
reader (the Second) said:
How'd you like it if we posted a thread called "Proud to be a Canadian" and lambasted your country and government, you twit?

Actually, we do it pretty regularly ourselves - so you would be entirely welcome to join in - you might actually have a valid point that some of us missed - making our home government bashing an even better experience.

:D

BC

A Twit? :lol:

That's like my 4 year old going Na Na Na, Na Na. :lol:

Not a chance. She has no valid points. :roll:
 

Lonecowboy

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Twenty-six percent (26%) of American adults believe it was a good idea for the federal government to take ownership of General Motors as the auto giant was on the verge of collapse. Nearly as many--17%--say that Americans should protest the bailout by boycotting GM and refusing to buy its cars. Most Americans are somewhere in between.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 53% of Americans believe the bailout was a bad idea. Of this group, 30% favor a boycott
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/auto_industry/26_applaud_gm_bailout_but_17_favor_boycott

fff is 26% Most Americans??
 

Lonecowboy

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If the federal government becomes the majority owner of General Motors and Chrysler, most Americans (57%) believe it’s likely the government will pass laws and regulations giving those firms an unfair advantage over other car companies. That figure includes 37% who consider such preferential treatment Very Likely.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just seven percent (7%) say it’s Not at All Likely that the government would change the rules to give itself an unfair advantage.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/auto_industry/57_expect_government_will_give_gm_chrysler_unfair_advantages

FFF- any questions??
 
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Anonymous

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1* Was it a good idea for the federal government to take ownership of General Motors and provide $30 billion in additional bailout funding?


26% Yes

53% No

22% Not sure


2* To protest bailouts, should Americans boycott General Motors and refuse to buy General Motors cars?


17% Yes

67% No

16% Not sure


3s* Over the next several years, how likely is it that General Motors will become a successful and profitable company?


16% Very likely

38% Somewhat likely


27% Not very likely

8% Not at all likely

11% Not sure

I guess 53% would rather spend that money for additional unemployment insurance, medicare/medicaid, welfare, and building some more Bushvilles and Soup Kitchens as the mortgage foreclosure rate goes higher and the value of houses/homes in the country drop even more...

Many economists believe that if GM/Chrysler cease to exist- along with all the contract manufacturing plants and support structure- we would slide into a long term depression....

Oh what a hole GW left the country in.....
 

Mike

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Oh what a hole GW left the country in.....



And Buckwheat continues to dig it deeper every day.................

Isn't it strange that things went to crap when the Dems took over Congress just a few short years ago? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
fff said:
What anger? I think Americans are smarter than you give them credit for. They know why their 401Ks fell, why the banks were going broke, why the government stepped in with money to keep them afloat. And they know it wasn't Barack Obama or the Democratic Party that was in charge. They know that Dems and Obama have been left with a toxic mess to clean up. They may not agree or like how he's going about it, but he is doing what he thinks is best/right.

To comare us to what's happening in Iran right now is silly. The fact is most Americans agree with what the Obama Administration is doing to try to get our economy jump started. Why would they be out in the streets protesting?

You do remember that Obama and the Democrats were in charge don't you. I know it was a short time but Obama was a senator with all the power to change and make laws. The Democrats were in charge.

But I will open minded, so if you could provide some information at to what laws Obama proposed to save America when a senator as well as when Bush vetoed them???????????

You see Congress has more power than a President on most things! Why did Obama not TRY to do something when he had that power.

But now he wants to put so many Czars in place so he can have absolute power. You know what the original name for Czars was? Dictators but that sounded harsh so they gave them a new cool name! You know who tells them Dictators what to do? Obama!
 
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