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Putin Eyes Estonia, Buckwheat Stutters, OT Is Proud

Mike

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Putin sanctions the U.S.

Wouldn't doubt it if Buckwheat sent Jesse Jackson over to Russia to negotiate the rest of the world over to them. :roll:
 
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March 20, 2014, 11:28 am
Obama orders new sanctions targeting Russia, Putin's bank



By Justin Sink

President Obama announced new sanctions against Russia on Thursday and warned that more were on the way if Moscow escalated the crisis in Ukraine.

The new sanctions target senior Russian officials, influential businessmen in the country and a bank that provides “material support” to allies of Russian president Vladimir Putin.

Obama also said he had signed a new executive order that would allow him to impose sanctions on “key sectors of the Russian economy.”

He warned that this step, if taken, would have repercussions to the global economy.

The president did not detail those possible penalties, but his comments suggested the new executive order could also hurt U.S. businesses, which have been wary of tougher action against Russia.

Obama said the new steps were necessary given Russia’s annexation of the breakaway Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea earlier this week.

"Russia must know that further escalation will only isolate it further from the international community,” Obama told reporters in comments on the White House’s South Lawn.

Those sanctioned on Thursday include a longtime Putin aide who has worked for the Russian leader since 1993, the chairman of the state-owned Russian Railways, and the founder of a large commodity trading company. According to senior administration officials, the 20 targets' assets will be frozen and they will be barred from doing business with American companies or financial institutions.

The sanctions will also affect Bank Rossiya, which the administration said was Russia's 17th largest bank and Putin's personal financial institution.

One administration official said that despite "bluster" from Russian officials who had dismissed the U.S. steps earlier this week, sanctioned individuals and institutions were going to find it "difficult to transact in the dollar."

Under the new executive order, further aggression by Moscow could be met by sanctions against the financial services, energy, metals and mining, defense, and engineering sectors in Russia.
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I sanction you- you sanction me.. Tit for tat-- playing grabass with each other...
This could work since Putin is controlled by the big business/oligarchs if it puts enough pain on the right ones...

Not sure if I would want to be the Stevenson Ranch with their Russian ventures with the Sputnik Ranch...
 

hypocritexposer

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This will definitely hurt those it is meant to help. There is quite a bit of Russian money and ownership in Ukraine. Is obama going to also provide Ukranians with jobs, like he has provided them for Americans, or will he continue to create an atmosphere for job destruction and a welfare state?

I guess he could always chase Russian financed jobs out of Ukraine, provide aid, paid for by US taxpayers, and control the Ukraine that way.
 
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hypocritexposer said:
This will definitely hurt those it is meant to help. There is quite a bit of Russian money and ownership in Ukraine. Is obama going to also provide Ukranians with jobs, like he has provided them for Americans, or will he continue to create an atmosphere for job destruction and a welfare state?

I guess he could always chase Russian financed jobs out of Ukraine, provide aid, paid for by US taxpayers, and control the Ukraine that way.

Yep- it may hurt more than help- but the Republicans and Hawks wanted actions taken :roll: ... Now Obama is proposing sending in foreign aid $ for the Ukraine to stabilize the new government...

I still think we should just get the H out of it- leave it to Europe, Russia, Crimea, and the Ukraine to figure out-- and spend that foreign aid taxpayer dollars here in the US...
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
This will definitely hurt those it is meant to help. There is quite a bit of Russian money and ownership in Ukraine. Is obama going to also provide Ukranians with jobs, like he has provided them for Americans, or will he continue to create an atmosphere for job destruction and a welfare state?

I guess he could always chase Russian financed jobs out of Ukraine, provide aid, paid for by US taxpayers, and control the Ukraine that way.

Yep- it may hurt more than help- but the Republicans and Hawks wanted actions taken :roll: ... Now Obama is proposing sending in foreign aid $ for the Ukraine to stabilize the new government...

I still think we should just get the H out of it- leave it to Europe, Russia, Crimea, and the Ukraine to figure out-- and spend that foreign aid taxpayer dollars here in the US...

Leftists on both sides will not "get the hell out of it", their ideology is to break it down, create dependence, and rebuild a non-existent Utopia.

You are witnessing leftists, tear apart a Country, so they can skim off the top.

Analyze it further and you will see a 3 way war, between leftists. The US, Russia and Europe.

OT, you've mentioned "rape and pillage" many times, well, this is what it looks like.

this is not a battle of ideologies...because all the players are of the same ideology.
 

loomixguy

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Yeah, right. The SOB has done such a wonderful phucking job spending taxpayer $ here the last 5 years. May as well piss it away in the Ukraine....
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
This will definitely hurt those it is meant to help. There is quite a bit of Russian money and ownership in Ukraine. Is obama going to also provide Ukranians with jobs, like he has provided them for Americans, or will he continue to create an atmosphere for job destruction and a welfare state?

I guess he could always chase Russian financed jobs out of Ukraine, provide aid, paid for by US taxpayers, and control the Ukraine that way.

Yep- it may hurt more than help- but the Republicans and Hawks wanted actions taken :roll: ... Now Obama is proposing sending in foreign aid $ for the Ukraine to stabilize the new government...

I still think we should just get the H out of it- leave it to Europe, Russia, Crimea, and the Ukraine to figure out-- and spend that foreign aid taxpayer dollars here in the US...

Oldtimer you are friggin comical, when has Obama ever done anything the Republicans wanted. To blame this Foreign affairs disaster on the Republicans is like blaming them for Obamacare. NOTHING Obama does is pressured by the right it is and has always been how will his action affect the Dems Political Power in the US. CONTROL IS ALL OBAMA CARES ABOUT. :roll:
 
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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
This will definitely hurt those it is meant to help. There is quite a bit of Russian money and ownership in Ukraine. Is obama going to also provide Ukranians with jobs, like he has provided them for Americans, or will he continue to create an atmosphere for job destruction and a welfare state?

I guess he could always chase Russian financed jobs out of Ukraine, provide aid, paid for by US taxpayers, and control the Ukraine that way.

Yep- it may hurt more than help- but the Republicans and Hawks wanted actions taken :roll: ... Now Obama is proposing sending in foreign aid $ for the Ukraine to stabilize the new government...

I still think we should just get the H out of it- leave it to Europe, Russia, Crimea, and the Ukraine to figure out-- and spend that foreign aid taxpayer dollars here in the US...

Oldtimer you are friggin comical, when has Obama ever done anything the Republicans wanted. To blame this Foreign affairs disaster on the Republicans is like blaming them for Obamacare. NOTHING Obama does is pressured by the right it is and has always been how will his action affect the Dems Political Power in the US. CONTROL IS ALL OBAMA CARES ABOUT. :roll:

Do you not read news reports... Republicans and the right wingers have been screaming at Obama to do something since this deal started-- and sanctions were part of it...
So now he has put on sanctions.... And still you and some Repubs will whine....

I don't agree with the Repubs or Obama...
 

loomixguy

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For someone who's "really quite conservative", 'Bagger is in lockstep with the libtards and feebs who defend and support Dear Leader. You might not agree with him, but you refuse to condemn him and his actions.

WE TOLD YOU SO!
 

hypocritexposer

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loomixguy said:
For someone who's "really quite conservative", 'Bagger is in lockstep with the libtards and feebs who defend and support Dear Leader. You might not agree with him, but you refuse to condemn him and his actions.

WE TOLD YOU SO!

"obama cult"
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Yep- it may hurt more than help- but the Republicans and Hawks wanted actions taken :roll: ... Now Obama is proposing sending in foreign aid $ for the Ukraine to stabilize the new government...

I still think we should just get the H out of it- leave it to Europe, Russia, Crimea, and the Ukraine to figure out-- and spend that foreign aid taxpayer dollars here in the US...

Oldtimer you are friggin comical, when has Obama ever done anything the Republicans wanted. To blame this Foreign affairs disaster on the Republicans is like blaming them for Obamacare. NOTHING Obama does is pressured by the right it is and has always been how will his action affect the Dems Political Power in the US. CONTROL IS ALL OBAMA CARES ABOUT. :roll:

Do you not read news reports... Republicans and the right wingers have been screaming at Obama to do something since this deal started-- and sanctions were part of it...
So now he has put on sanctions.... And still you and some Repubs will whine....

I don't agree with the Repubs or Obama...

Oh I can read but that does not mean I trust the media and it doesn't mean Obama took any pressure from the right. :roll: As you see Oldtimer the Right has been pressuring Obama from before Obamacare was passed and he has done NOTHING to repeal that MAJORITY HATED bill so why would he care what they have to say about Sanctions on Putin. The whole Congress and Senate, Dems included, backed stronger sanctions in Iran and Obama said he would veto any bill that came to his desk that would put more sanctions on while he was negotiating to CUT SANCTIONS. :x

Obama does what ever the hell he wants and he does not care what the true effects are as he knows nobody is going to stop him and his true agenda to destroy the US. If he cared at all he would stop the crap and stop gutting the Miitary that is to PROTECT YOU. Nope he cuts the military and buys more votes from the likes of you with "FREE STUFF". :mad:
 

Mike

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If only Buckwheat hadn't drawn that invisible "Red Line" in Syria. :lol: :lol:


http://articles.courant.com/2013-04-26/news/hc-obama-red-line-syria-chemical-warfare-20130426_1_red-line-chemical-weapons-syria
 

hypocritexposer

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His red lines are like a red apron to bulls. They are challenges, and the US is going to get gored, because he is not quick/intelligent enough to spear the bulls.

Democrats have intentionally done this...they intended this.

The whole world is in turmoil, because they thought that this was their opportunity.

The pendulum will swing. Wait for it, and watch it.
 
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U.S. sanctions on Russia could affect Montana

Developments in the standoff between Russia and the Ukraine on Thursday, trickle all the way to Montana.

Russia approved a treaty Thursday to annex Crimea from Ukraine prompting tougher sanctions from the U.S.

President Obama placed 20 Russians under economic sanctions in an effort to penalize the move.

Among those named is Russian billionaire Gennady Timchenko. Up until this week, he owned almost half of the company Gunvor.

Gunvor owns a $400 million stake in the Signal Peak coal mine near Roundup. That's a one-third interest in the mine.

A spokesperson for Signal Peak told MTN News Thursday night that the company has not been contacted by the federal government, and the mine continues to operate as normal.
 

loomixguy

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Old *********, have you forgotten that your Dear Leader wants all the coal mines in the US shut down....preferably shut down AND bankrupt?

You should be jumping for joy....if you could jump... :roll:
 
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March 29, 2014, 10:15 am
McCain: If Putin pushes, US biz pull back



By Bernie Becker

The U.S. might need to pressure some of its biggest corporations to suspend their operations in Russia, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said in an Friday interview.

McCain told Bloomberg Television that it would be “a tough call,” but that companies like ExxonMobil, Ford, General Electric and Pepsi might have to pull out or roll back their presence in Russia if President Vladimir Putin doesn’t withdraw troops from Ukraine's border.


"If we declare sanctions of a certain kind with their companies and corporations, obviously it would inhibit their way to do business, their ability to do business there,” McCain said. “We don't want to hurt our own economy.”

Still, McCain also insisted that the sort of sanctions that could affect titans of American business are a long way off, even as he noted that former President Jimmy Carter ­– not one of the Arizona Republican’s favorite past presidents – took strong steps against the Soviet Union in the 1970s.
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Yep- again the politicians stick our nose in other countries business and it comes back to bite the US business/producer in the butt...
Reminds me of when Carter put on the Soviet grain embargo in 1980 - which the only one it hurt was the US farmers... Wheat prices went thru the floor contributing to the farm crisis of the 80's-- and Russia went out and got all the grain they wanted from countries that scoffed at the US embargo...

We should have learned long ago from Cuba with an embargo that has been on for over 50 years and has done nothing to change their government... We'd have been much further ahead to keep trade in place and let capitalism run its course in Cuba...
 

Tam

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Sen. Ron Johnson: Obama's 'Red Line' Gave Putin 'Green Light'
Thursday, 06 Mar 2014 06:29 PM
By Bill Hoffmann

President Obama's inaction after drawing a "red line" during previous foreign crises encouraged Russian President Vladimir Putin to send troops into Crimea, Sen. Ron Johnson says.

"The president will set red lines and when the red line is crossed, do nothing, and that certainly emboldens people like Putin, which gives him sort of the green light to do what he did," the Wisconsin Republican told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

Johnson believes a weak United States policy has allowed Putin to flagrantly flex his muscles.

"We've got to recognize what gives Putin … impunity this way? It's because America's been showing weakness," he said.

"We are weakened economically after five years of this administration, we are weaker in world opinion because we have been leading from behind. We've been withdrawn from the world. So we actually have to show some resolve for once."

The U.S. must make Putin "feel the pain" of his lawless actions in Ukraine, Johnson says.

"You need to start turning the heat on Vladimir Putin … and hope that eventually Russia will roll back and let Ukraine decide for Ukraine in terms of exactly what their governmental structure is going to be doing.

"Obviously Vladimir Putin's been lying. He's entered into Crimea under false pretenses, and again the real danger is more expansive and the only way you check somebody like Vladimir Putin is he actually has to feel the pain.

"Sanctions are actually a pretty good idea …. That's not a bad first step, but we actually have to do it."

On Thursday, Secretary of State John Kerry promised to continue talks with Russia, which remains locked in a tense stand-off with the Ukrainian military in the Crimea region.

Putin has claimed the new Ukraine government in Kiev came to power via an “unconstitutional coup,” and force may be needed to restore order as “a last resort.”

Johnson says President Barack Obama is "talking the right talk," but actions speak louder than words.

"We need to do everything we can, again, through action to dissuade them, to create any disincentive for them not to continue their march into more of eastern Ukraine."

Johnson said the U.S. must think long term on Russia and the underlying reasons for its aggression.

"What props Putin up is high energy prices which is why I've never felt Putin and Russia to be a reliable partner in the Mideast. Mideast chaos is in their benefit. It props oil prices up which is the only thing that keeps that economy going," he said.

"So we need to look at this economically. We've got to show resolve over a very long period of time …. The administration claims they're going to do that. They're going to be steady, they're going to be determined…. Well, the proof will be in the pudding."

Oldtimer if your friggin hero Obama was not "leading from behind" and encouraging the wingnuts of the world to cross his fake red lines, US companies would not be being asked to roll back their presences in Russia which is going to hurt them . If Obama would stop gutting the US military and show a STRONG PRESENTS in the World, the wingnuts like Putin would stay the hell in their own countries and not chance pizzing off the US by invading other countries. A strong military does not promote war it discourages idiots from stepping over red lines when they are drawn. :mad:
 
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Tam said:
Sen. Ron Johnson: Obama's 'Red Line' Gave Putin 'Green Light'
Thursday, 06 Mar 2014 06:29 PM
By Bill Hoffmann

President Obama's inaction after drawing a "red line" during previous foreign crises encouraged Russian President Vladimir Putin to send troops into Crimea, Sen. Ron Johnson says.

"The president will set red lines and when the red line is crossed, do nothing, and that certainly emboldens people like Putin, which gives him sort of the green light to do what he did," the Wisconsin Republican told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

Johnson believes a weak United States policy has allowed Putin to flagrantly flex his muscles.

"We've got to recognize what gives Putin … impunity this way? It's because America's been showing weakness," he said.

"We are weakened economically after five years of this administration, we are weaker in world opinion because we have been leading from behind. We've been withdrawn from the world. So we actually have to show some resolve for once."

The U.S. must make Putin "feel the pain" of his lawless actions in Ukraine, Johnson says.

"You need to start turning the heat on Vladimir Putin … and hope that eventually Russia will roll back and let Ukraine decide for Ukraine in terms of exactly what their governmental structure is going to be doing.

"Obviously Vladimir Putin's been lying. He's entered into Crimea under false pretenses, and again the real danger is more expansive and the only way you check somebody like Vladimir Putin is he actually has to feel the pain.

"Sanctions are actually a pretty good idea …. That's not a bad first step, but we actually have to do it."

On Thursday, Secretary of State John Kerry promised to continue talks with Russia, which remains locked in a tense stand-off with the Ukrainian military in the Crimea region.

Putin has claimed the new Ukraine government in Kiev came to power via an “unconstitutional coup,” and force may be needed to restore order as “a last resort.”

Johnson says President Barack Obama is "talking the right talk," but actions speak louder than words.

"We need to do everything we can, again, through action to dissuade them, to create any disincentive for them not to continue their march into more of eastern Ukraine."

Johnson said the U.S. must think long term on Russia and the underlying reasons for its aggression.

"What props Putin up is high energy prices which is why I've never felt Putin and Russia to be a reliable partner in the Mideast. Mideast chaos is in their benefit. It props oil prices up which is the only thing that keeps that economy going," he said.

"So we need to look at this economically. We've got to show resolve over a very long period of time …. The administration claims they're going to do that. They're going to be steady, they're going to be determined…. Well, the proof will be in the pudding."

Oldtimer if your friggin hero Obama was not "leading from behind" and encouraging the wingnuts of the world to cross his fake red lines, US companies would not be being asked to roll back their presences in Russia which is going to hurt them . If Obama would stop gutting the US military and show a STRONG PRESENTS in the World, the wingnuts like Putin would stay the hell in their own countries and not chance pizzing off the US by invading other countries. A strong military does not promote war it discourages idiots from stepping over red lines when they are drawn. :mad:

Yep there is one of our problems- too damn many presents given out around the world :wink: ... Foreign aid and funding sides in every civil war.. If we kept our nose out of everyones' civil war, quit invading sovereign nations for made up reasons, and cut our military in half-- we could still show a strong presence in the world...
 
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