gunslinger: "Pretty new to the boards but it seems that you don't care much for R-Calf. So why not and are there any cattle associations that you are for and why? I am smalltimes daughter, just as a reference."
the real jake said:I know Sandhuskers and Oldtimers argument sometimes makes me think we should have done it from the beginning because of the time that has gone by, but the science does not justify testing. We should not let our trading partners set all the limits on our trade. Why not follow what science tells us?
'he packers are out to maximize profits, as is any business. Like any manufacturer, they seek to lower their cost of raw materials - cattle. They lobby the government directly and thru their trade orginazation, the American Meat Institure (AMI), and they use alternative sources for cattle and beef when they can. However, their goals of cheap cattle clash with the goals of US producers, which is high priced cattle. R-CALF seeks to balance out their pull in Washington with the voice of cattlemen. "
Think about it Gunslinger......Sandhusker hates to live in a "free"society!
Cheers for ~SH~and Soapweed.
the real jake said:Guys, I would not disagree that USDA made some mistakes, but for now at least with the 20 month cattle we may not have to bear the costs of testing ourselves. Although I am sure it will cost something to verify the age of 20 mo. I think 30 mo. should have been the accepted rule, as that is the norm. right?
All I know is let's get the cattle moving as it is getting old having a one way street. We still have a few calves to sell sometime.
Some coming 4 yr. old cows that we bought as heifers and calved them out and resold them bred last year, resold again this last week for 1650 bred back. And the first 3 owners all made money on 'em. Gotta like that. Just hope they work for the 4th owner. :lol:
? I think the USDA has set the inexcusable precident of standing in the way of enterprise.
the real jake said:? I think the USDA has set the inexcusable precident of standing in the way of enterprise.
Wait a minute Sandhusker. Did you just trap yourself? I didn't think you were for open trade. :wink:
Do you think there is a difference between our consumers and Japaneese consumers. Let's play hardball.
Soapweed said:Personally, I am not for Country of Origin Labeling (COOL). At first glance it looks and sounds good. But without mandatory identification also, it has no "teeth" or traceback.
COOL means nothing without some sort of identification traceback, and now producers will probably all have to be burdened with mandatory identification because R-CALF got what they worked so hard to get.
RobertMac said:Soap, are you not contradicting yourself? How can "R-CALF's" COOL be flawed for no teeth, but now burdening producers with "teeth"????