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Question for Americans who sell their calves as age verified

Red Barn Angus

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I've never seen any third party verification. The seller simply states the birth date of the first born calf of the group. Not much to it as far as I am aware.

I've seen age verified cattle sell right alongside of others that weren't and I couldn't see any difference in price.
 

Mike

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RSL said:
better question - who is the third party verification? and what is the potential premium?

Google "Process Verified USDA" or "PVP USDA". There are several companies who will do 3rd party verification if you opt for their program.

From what I've seen, there is only a $3-$9 per hundredweight premium.

Doesn't sound like much when you sell a few calves.............but it can add up for the bigger producers.

I'm pretty sure the only beef going to Japan is "Process Verified".

Angus, Red Angus, Charolais, and other breed associations have a PVP program also.
 

SMN Herf

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I PVP my steers this summer. It resulted in $35/hd premium at the processing plant.

I included all the paperwork I had on them. AI records, calf birth records, trucking records. A short interview and a little paperwork and I was good to go.

Brian
 

flyingS

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IMI Global is one of the most popular third party verifying companies. It is not really all that difficult. You fill some paper work out and make a copy of the first and last page of your calving book. If you do not tag your calves right down in your pocket book the date that your first calf is born as well as the last, that will qualify you. You are required to put an EID tag in the calf's ear before they leave the ranch. As far as the premium I think it is probably between $3 and $5 a hundred weight. If you want some information call Shawn with Midwestern Cattle Marketing at 308-650-1436. Maybe he can help you out with your questions. They can have a rep in your area to visit with you.
 

Yanuck

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the reason I ask is because we sold the WY calve on Superior in July, the feedlot in NE that bought them aked if we could/would age verify them, well they weren't sold that way so no extra $ on our end for what seems like a bunch of info that has nothing to do with anything. So as my husband is really dragging his feet on the phone with the feedlot today, he was told that all he needed to send in was a preg report from the vet saying the ranch had so many cows and that he had checked them safe in calf.
 
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Anonymous

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For years we have used a signed affidavit- with first and last birth date- plus area raised (country, state, county)- shots given- affirm they have not been given antibiotics and/or steroids- hot iron branded for ID with a state brands dept. change of ownership for verification.....
I've also included on the affidavit that copies of calving records are available upon request....

This third party verification for age is a crock in my thinking...Just another way for someone else to get a cut of the pot, because unless they were there calving the cattle out and keeping their own records all they are doing is verifying what you are telling them- or records you are showing them....Same thing a notary public does for nothing...
 

RMUG

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I think if the feedlot wants them, they should pay you extra for getting the information, don't give it to them for free b/c they are bound to make an extra 15-40 head. Them not you unless you demand more. We are delivering in the morning and were sending the age and source tags with the trucks, until the feedlot said they didn't want those ones and wanted the records so they could put other tags in that they have some sort of alliance with. rediculous, every feedlot should accept every age and source tag and help the producers get some information back on their calves.
 

Cedarcreek

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Yanuck said:
the reason I ask is because we sold the WY calve on Superior in July, the feedlot in NE that bought them aked if we could/would age verify them, well they weren't sold that way so no extra $ on our end for what seems like a bunch of info that has nothing to do with anything. So as my husband is really dragging his feet on the phone with the feedlot today, he was told that all he needed to send in was a preg report from the vet saying the ranch had so many cows and that he had checked them safe in calf.

We did it that way the first time with the feedlot paying all the cost on calves sold on Superior. They bought our calves through Superior for several years after that. Now we source and age verify through IMI. 3 to 5$ per hundredweight is a pretty good return for spending about 3$ a head.
 

BRG

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I would guess close to half of our bull customers use a Source and Aged tag, with the majority of them being the Red Angus yellow tag.

Yesterday we had several customers calves sell and on all the S & A tagged calves we could bid $3/cwt higher because of the premium at the other end. $3/cwt X 600 lbs = $18/calf Pretty good investment for a $.99 tag.

My brother sold his calves this spring and they were tagged. The buyer called him 2 days ago to tell him how they did. He said he got a $30 premium just for being S & Aged.

It usually pays for itself for both the cow/calf man and the feeder. Don't know for about the packer, but I am sure it does there to or else they wouldn't be giving the $30/head premium.
 

AX-

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I agree Bryan. Ours are A&S with Micro Beef. I believe it pays. I was suprised that there seemed to be less done this year than last year. I know that at least 3 bunches of our calves were bought over the internet at the sale barn specifically because they were A&S. I have to say that it pays.
 

flyingS

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BRG is right their is a premium for everyone. The packer gets a premium because that is about the only way you can export beef anymore. There has been so many beef recalls over this or that, that foreign buyers are wanting to know exactly where that box of beef is coming from.
 

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