Broke Cowboy said:
nonothing said:
BC,when has Canada not been their For the USA....
You mean those "[email protected]@rds south of the border"? Or the "we will not come to Iraq - even with a mobile field hospital"?
How about .... well, that is not the point of this discussion so I do not think it wise to toss in a red herring that will loosen the topic. You want to go there start a new thread.
Is not that what they say about the Newyork Times now?......I did offer ways to combat millitary and terroist activity......Pakistan has nucular missle for years now,why did this not happen then.......
They could not reach us at that time - only China and India - things may have changed - have not kept up with it.
.Was there not a treaty signed between Russia and the USA to stop building missiles? Why was that?Are you telling me that the first sign of war will be a nucular attack....
Actually countries like the "Stan" countries are not covered under the treaties. You forget the rogue state mentality. And they are now with us - so treaties have no bearing upon defence. There are numerous "lost missiles and warheads" out there. A new and major worry is ship launched missiles - they come close - stay in international waters and do their thing.
No different than attempting to stop crime by calling the police. Fact is the crime is committed and THEN the police are called. To prevent an attack one must be proactive - NOT reactive.
If thats the case,no one wins...
Actually that is the problem - if one does as you suggest - then no one wins. If one is proactive then a win is possible. Personally I would rather have a defense mechanism in place rather than WISH I had the system after it was required.
If its not all about who has the biggest dick,Why are missiles shaped like one?...
Sarcasm deserves to be answered with sarcasm - To allow for better atmospheric "PENETRATION".
B.C.
All i will say to dignify your first staement is....The bastrads from the north are deing in Afganistan..
And you do not know where I come from - but you have assumed. I was recently in Bagram on "business". I expect I will be there in late July for a few weeks on additional "business" - a short trip this time. I can assure you I did not live behind the wire. Be that as it may you asked a question and I answered it. You then decided to cut and run. Are you sure you are not a Chretien follower? Or perhaps a Layton lover? Both losing situations at best.
Oh so I ask why did China not ask the world to get on board a missile defence program.....
China has it's own agenda - one of which is to drive the price so high as to ruin the western economy - as happened during the late 80's with the Soviet Union. Beware of China - they are not our friends. Think otherwise at your own peril.
Also why do Japan and China now have cold feet about the whole thing.....
I would bet Japan has changed it's mind due to the recent happenings in their neighbourhood. Watch for developments there.
Building more missiles is proactive...Could it not be construde by some countries,like say maybe china,that it would be giving another country first and only strike capabilities....
Missiles that will not reach another country's shores will not increase international tensions - the MD package fits that description.
Proactive I am not so sure.
On the treaty between Russia and the USA,it was the USA that broke the treaty and as I recall Russia was not all to pleased...
SALT is not my strong point - I will bow to you on this one - but I might spend some time perusing the history to check your statment if haying should ever slow down.
You come across as one who thinks the more weapons we have,they will stop building more ...Not sure with the ego of man that,that is possible.
Your description - certainly not mine. But you are entitled to your opinion however wrong it might be.
Oh and BC.there is no longer any sense in me talking to you.....you see things different then I do....
When one makes this type of statement I realize there is a problem. The problem is you have run out of arguments.
You choose to only pick what peices work for you best....
Do I? Seems to me I am prepared to counter every one of your lotus land ideals. As I stated in the past - when someone sticks their head in the sand it becomes the responsibility of the remainder of the community to protect that person's arse. Peace through negotiation has never lasted. Peace through strength has historically been respected.
Chamberlaine did say "Peace in our time" did he not? We were at war within weeks and he was defeated at the forthcoming polls. Thank heavens the Brit population showed how gutsy it was or we would be speaking a far different language today. If the Brits had fallen we would have been required to base our war time ops a long way from Europe and the outcome might have been vastly different. What is wrong with emulating this gutsy attitude?
You never even mention your fallout threat If we dont sign...
Fall out threat? Who cares? The Canucks obviously do not - or they would be looking at signing up. If you do not care about it - and do not want to prevent it by getting on board the MD defense train - then why should I?
I guess maybe you even saw the foolishness in that remark,but as ussaul it was left behind....
No, I simply figured you were willing to accept the consequences. After all you are dead set against MD - it is your right to chose your method of dying in a peace time OR a war time environment.
BC llike a few already before you,its best I no longer respond to you....
So my polite and calm debate here has you beaten? Seems to me a real man or a real woman would at least consider the option of changing their mind? You?
Say what you want about me,I am not caring any more in here...Your agenda is set and thats fine.
I have not attacked you or trashed you - I have strongly stated my points and countered your points - is that wrong?
I will just no longer argue with you....
Good - that means you are set to come on board. Perhaps you will give consideration to what I have written and you will at least see another viewpoint other than what you have been taught by your left leaning friends - friends who owe their existence to rough folks who do dirty deeds so you can write as you do without fear of reprisal, imprisonment or death.
I sense you to be very well educated in World matters,
I suspect I have been to a few more places than you and some of your friends - but that does not make me an ogre - it simply means I am prepared to pull the trigger if necessary.
May you never have to do that. But at the same time, you had better understand the value of people who can and HAVE done that so you can live your life in peace. It also gives you an opportunity to see what might become necessary in order for you or your family / children to maintain their safe and peaceful lifestyle.
Do you truly "STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE" or do you simply enjoy the benefits and hope someone else does the dirty work?
If it was required - Could you pull the trigger - or would you lie on the corner and whimper for your mommy? The answer is actually very important because it is easier to do if you have already searched your soul. Not enjoyable, but it is a bit easier.
and your sense of humour can be very witty yet cutting at times....
Thankyou - you should see a bunch of mil types after an operation. If they insult you they love you - if they ignore you they hate you - hard for some to understand.
I no longer need your peaching or lessons any more.......
Actually I thought I was debating. I think you are admitting defeat by cutting and running.
I wish you nothing but the best in your future endevours and wishing you godspeed......
I said this to you once before and while I am not sure you believed me - I said I will take that blessing. One never knows when it might come in handy - thank you.
Mr soapweed gave me good advice,I have start yielding that advice lately......You can call it a liberal laydown if you like,as I am sure you will find a way to negativly slip the word liberal into your next post....Take Care Sir...you are deffinitly one of a kind...
Hey - Soap is a good person who knows his own mind and tends to think as an independent - he is not afraid of much - but I bet his wife can run him ragged if he gets out of line!!!
Ah your sarcasm has not hurt me - it did make me smile. You see to be an original is not a bad thing. Indeed it is a good thing. For an original is something that in the end will be copied - even by some folks that are similar to you.
Enjoy your life - soft and safe as it may be. Give thanks to those who have provided - be they hard nosed politicians and there are some good ones - or the man / woman who is prepared to make your life the way it is today.
Even folks like you can make a difference - question is - what are you going to do to make this difference?
B.C.