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RoperAB

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Mrs.Greg said:
OT,newfies aren't from Nova Scotia,they are from Newfoundland. We don't want anything shot down in Nova Scotia,that is one beautiful province :)

If Newfondland was horse country I would consider moving there. Really there isnt much in Newfondland but its the people that make it such a great place.
You would just have to visit the place to understand what I mean. There is no other place in North America like Newfondland. :D
Now that was 20 years ago when we went on that fishing trip but at that time nobody locked a door in Newfondland. :D
 

Mrs.Greg

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RoperAB said:
Mrs.Greg said:
OT,newfies aren't from Nova Scotia,they are from Newfoundland. We don't want anything shot down in Nova Scotia,that is one beautiful province :)

If Newfondland was horse country I would consider moving there. Really there isnt much in Newfondland but its the people that make it such a great place.
You would just have to visit the place to understand what I mean. There is no other place in North America like Newfondland. :D
Now that was 20 years ago when we went on that fishing trip but at that time nobody locked a door in Newfondland. :D
Roper,theres nobody left in Newfoundland,they're all in Ft.Mac. I'm sure they'll let you in :wink: You are sooo right,probably the friendliest people going!!
 

Broke Cowboy

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Newfs - great folks in a great and very harsh land.

MD - with left leaning folks like nonothing it is apparent that Canuck land will be left far behind in the future unless good folks step up to the plate.

Interesting comment about always being the opposite of what the American folks say.

Unfortunately that was the lib way - and their social re-engineering project has created a country that tends to go that way. Toronto Star is one of the biggest papers in the country and has been known for years as the lib paper.

Seems to me that when someone puts their head in the sand to ignore a possible problem / solution it makes others responsible to save their exposed arse!

B.C.
 
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Mrs.Greg said:
OT,newfies aren't from Nova Scotia,they are from Newfoundland. We don't want anything shot down in Nova Scotia,that is one beautiful province :)

OOPS :oops: Typed without thinking... Hear so many Canadian jokes about the newfies- was thinking Newfoundland and typed Nove Scotia...

Sounds like Newfoundland is kind of like around here- no one locks their doors here either...I was just thinking the other day, I have no idea where my house keys are... Maybe one of the kids has them...

Years ago everyone told Montana and ND jokes- about how far behind we were and out of the loop--- Now everyone wants to buy 20 acres and move here.... :lol:
 

IL Rancher

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The only joke I ever heard about NOrth Dakota was one told by a Montanan... Not a joke for a family place lets just say :shock:
 
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IL Rancher said:
The only joke I ever heard about NOrth Dakota was one told by a Montanan... Not a joke for a family place lets just say :shock:

I quit telling ND jokes after I found out their roads, streets, emergency responders and almost all their government infrastructure was years ahead of Montana...Also when I decided we need a sales tax, instead of the on again -off again property tax and income taxs we are constantly raising and lowering...(now the Montana Governor wants to reimburse everyone $400 in property tax---problem is, some didn't ever pay that much in the first place, while others paid 100 times that much)...
 

nonothing

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Mrs.Greg said:
OT,newfies aren't from Nova Scotia,they are from Newfoundland. We don't want anything shot down in Nova Scotia,that is one beautiful province :)

You are right there Mrs Greg it sure is beutiful.......Oh and BTW,it was in Gander Newfounland where many of the American planes landed on 911...but i guess you all probably knew that,So when the nuclar dust falls on them,I am sure they would see that as a nice ty note,for being a bad nieghbor.

Also If this defence system can take out missiles from Alaska,how good can it possibly be... Mr roper,how the Heck do you know the distance a long range missle can go?

To B.C cowboy,you will do whatever it takes to be right...It was you who said that the fall out would be in Vancouver,If thats the case you may want to let the people In Seattle know,It tends to get windy here at times...Maybe Greenland will sign on and All will be covered.....
 

Broke Cowboy

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nonothing said:
Mrs.Greg said:
OT,newfies aren't from Nova Scotia,they are from Newfoundland. We don't want anything shot down in Nova Scotia,that is one beautiful province :)

You are right there Mrs Greg it sure is beutiful.......Oh and BTW,it was in Gander Newfounland where many of the American planes landed on 911...but i guess you all probably knew that,So when the nuclar dust falls on them,I am sure they would see that as a nice ty note,for being a bad nieghbor.

Tsk, tsk - you almost sound petulant.

Also If this defence system can take out missiles from Alaska,how good can it possibly be... Mr roper,how the Heck do you know the distance a long range missle can go?

Actually, a long range missile is a misnomer. How far do you want it to go? They can be programmed to a maximum and a minimum for their capabilities. Each one has it's own abilities. You might want to reference Jane"s military publications for the specs on each different type. Makes for interesting reading.

To B.C cowboy,you will do whatever it takes to be right

Actually I make a serious effort to be able to back up my statements - if I cannot - and sometimes I have been known to be wrong - I will make a correction and an apology.

I NEVER do whatever it takes to be right. Your statement makes it sound like you would be willing to say I lie to make my point. If that is so could you please show me?

Seattle is well aware of the problem I can assure you. That is why the defensive shot will be fired long before it flies over CONUS - Continental United States.


...It was you who said that the fall out would be in Vancouver,

Actually I think I stated the fallout would be over Canadian soil - NOT specifically Vancouver - although that is a distinct possibility

If thats the case you may want to let the people In Seattle know,It tends to get windy here at times...Maybe Greenland will sign on and All will be covered.....

Sarcasm does not become you.

B.C.
 

nonothing

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Broke Cowboy said:
Newfs - great folks in a great and very harsh land.

MD - with left leaning folks like nonothing it is apparent that Canuck land will be left far behind in the future unless good folks step up to the plate.

Interesting comment about always being the opposite of what the American folks say.

Unfortunately that was the lib way - and their social re-engineering project has created a country that tends to go that way. Toronto Star is one of the biggest papers in the country and has been known for years as the lib paper.

Seems to me that when someone puts their head in the sand to ignore a possible problem / solution it makes others responsible to save their exposed arse!

B.C.


BC,when has Canada not been their For the USA....Is not that what they say about the Newyork Times now?......I did offer ways to combat millitary and terroist activity......Pakistan has nucular missle for years now,why did this not happen then........Was there not a treaty signed between Russia and the USA to stop building missiles? Why was that?Are you telling me that the first sign of war will be a nucular attack....If thats the case,no one wins...If its not all about who has the biggest dick,Why are missiles shaped like one?...
 

Broke Cowboy

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nonothing said:
Broke Cowboy said:
Newfs - great folks in a great and very harsh land.

MD - with left leaning folks like nonothing it is apparent that Canuck land will be left far behind in the future unless good folks step up to the plate.

Interesting comment about always being the opposite of what the American folks say.

Unfortunately that was the lib way - and their social re-engineering project has created a country that tends to go that way. Toronto Star is one of the biggest papers in the country and has been known for years as the lib paper.

Seems to me that when someone puts their head in the sand to ignore a possible problem / solution it makes others responsible to save their exposed arse!

B.C.


BC,when has Canada not been their For the USA....

You mean those "[email protected]@rds south of the border"? Or the "we will not come to Iraq - even with a mobile field hospital"?

How about .... well, that is not the point of this discussion so I do not think it wise to toss in a red herring that will loosen the topic. You want to go there start a new thread.


Is not that what they say about the Newyork Times now?......I did offer ways to combat millitary and terroist activity......Pakistan has nucular missle for years now,why did this not happen then.......

They could not reach us at that time - only China and India - things may have changed - have not kept up with it.

.Was there not a treaty signed between Russia and the USA to stop building missiles? Why was that?Are you telling me that the first sign of war will be a nucular attack....

Actually countries like the "Stan" countries are not covered under the treaties. You forget the rogue state mentality. And they are now with us - so treaties have no bearing upon defence. There are numerous "lost missiles and warheads" out there. A new and major worry is ship launched missiles - they come close - stay in international waters and do their thing.

No different than attempting to stop crime by calling the police. Fact is the crime is committed and THEN the police are called. To prevent an attack one must be proactive - NOT reactive.


If thats the case,no one wins...

Actually that is the problem - if one does as you suggest - then no one wins. If one is proactive then a win is possible. Personally I would rather have a defense mechanism in place rather than WISH I had the system after it was required.

If its not all about who has the biggest dick,Why are missiles shaped like one?...

Sarcasm deserves to be answered with sarcasm - To allow for better atmospheric "PENETRATION".

B.C.
 

nonothing

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Broke Cowboy said:
nonothing said:
Broke Cowboy said:
Newfs - great folks in a great and very harsh land.

MD - with left leaning folks like nonothing it is apparent that Canuck land will be left far behind in the future unless good folks step up to the plate.

Interesting comment about always being the opposite of what the American folks say.

Unfortunately that was the lib way - and their social re-engineering project has created a country that tends to go that way. Toronto Star is one of the biggest papers in the country and has been known for years as the lib paper.

Seems to me that when someone puts their head in the sand to ignore a possible problem / solution it makes others responsible to save their exposed arse!

B.C.


BC,when has Canada not been their For the USA....

You mean those "[email protected]@rds south of the border"? Or the "we will not come to Iraq - even with a mobile field hospital"?

How about .... well, that is not the point of this discussion so I do not think it wise to toss in a red herring that will loosen the topic. You want to go there start a new thread.


Is not that what they say about the Newyork Times now?......I did offer ways to combat millitary and terroist activity......Pakistan has nucular missle for years now,why did this not happen then.......

They could not reach us at that time - only China and India - things may have changed - have not kept up with it.

.Was there not a treaty signed between Russia and the USA to stop building missiles? Why was that?Are you telling me that the first sign of war will be a nucular attack....

Actually countries like the "Stan" countries are not covered under the treaties. You forget the rogue state mentality. And they are now with us - so treaties have no bearing upon defence. There are numerous "lost missiles and warheads" out there. A new and major worry is ship launched missiles - they come close - stay in international waters and do their thing.

No different than attempting to stop crime by calling the police. Fact is the crime is committed and THEN the police are called. To prevent an attack one must be proactive - NOT reactive.


If thats the case,no one wins...

Actually that is the problem - if one does as you suggest - then no one wins. If one is proactive then a win is possible. Personally I would rather have a defense mechanism in place rather than WISH I had the system after it was required.

If its not all about who has the biggest dick,Why are missiles shaped like one?...

Sarcasm deserves to be answered with sarcasm - To allow for better atmospheric "PENETRATION".

B.C.


All i will say to dignify your first staement is....The bastrads from the north are deing in Afganistan..

Oh so I ask why did China not ask the world to get on board a missile defence program.....Also why do Japan and China now have cold feet about the whole thing.....

Building more missiles is proactive...Could it not be construde by some countries,like say maybe china,that it would be giving another country first and only strike capabilities....Proactive I am not so sure.

On the treaty between Russia and the USA,it was the USA that broke the treaty and as I recall Russia was not all to pleased...

You come across as one who thinks the more weapons we have,they will stop building more ...Not sure with the ego of man that,that is possible.


Oh and BC.there is no longer any sense in me talking to you.....you see things different then I do....You choose to only pick what peices work for you best....You never even mention your fallout threat If we dont sign...I guess maybe you even saw the foolishness in that remark,but as ussaul it was left behind....

BC llike a few already before you,its best I no longer respond to you....Say what you want about me,I am not caring any more in here...Your agenda is set and thats fine.I will just no longer argue with you....I sense you to be very well educated in World matters,and your sense of humour can be very witty yet cutting at times....I no longer need your peaching or lessons any more.......I wish you nothing but the best in your future endevours and wishing you godspeed......Mr soapweed gave me good advice,I have start yielding that advice lately......You can call it a liberal laydown if you like,as I am sure you will find a way to negativly slip the word liberal into your next post....Take Care Sir...you are deffinitly one of a kind...
 

nonothing

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RoperAB said:
nonothing said:
Mrs.Greg said:
OT,newfies aren't from Nova Scotia,they are from Newfoundland. We don't want anything shot down in Nova Scotia,that is one beautiful province :)

You are right there Mrs Greg it sure is beutiful.......Oh and BTW,it was in Gander Newfounland where many of the American planes landed on 911...but i guess you all probably knew that,So when the nuclar dust falls on them,I am sure they would see that as a nice ty note,for being a bad nieghbor.

Also If this defence system can take out missiles from Alaska,how good can it possibly be... Mr roper,how the Heck do you know the distance a long range missle can go?

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Gander NFLD used to have a large US military base if I remember right. Im thinking it still does?
About MD
Im not even sure if it will work. But it would only make sense that the closer it is to the incoming missles the better it will work.



http://www.ganderairport.com/about.htm

there you go roper
 

RoperAB

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nonothing said:
Broke Cowboy said:
Newfs - great folks in a great and very harsh land.

MD - with left leaning folks like nonothing it is apparent that Canuck land will be left far behind in the future unless good folks step up to the plate.

Interesting comment about always being the opposite of what the American folks say.

Unfortunately that was the lib way - and their social re-engineering project has created a country that tends to go that way. Toronto Star is one of the biggest papers in the country and has been known for years as the lib paper.

Seems to me that when someone puts their head in the sand to ignore a possible problem / solution it makes others responsible to save their exposed arse!

B.C.


BC,when has Canada not been their For the USA....Is not that what they say about the Newyork Times now?......I did offer ways to combat millitary and terroist activity......Pakistan has nucular missle for years now,why did this not happen then........Was there not a treaty signed between Russia and the USA to stop building missiles? Why was that?Are you telling me that the first sign of war will be a nucular attack....If thats the case,no one wins...If its not all about who has the biggest dick,Why are missiles shaped like one?...

Pakistan is our allie. Pakistan is not threatening us.
Last I heard Japan is onside with MD.
Reagan proved that peace through strength works.
Tibet proves pacifisim doesnt work.
China has always been our enemy since the Korean war.
 

nonothing

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RoperAB said:
nonothing said:
Broke Cowboy said:
Newfs - great folks in a great and very harsh land.

MD - with left leaning folks like nonothing it is apparent that Canuck land will be left far behind in the future unless good folks step up to the plate.

Interesting comment about always being the opposite of what the American folks say.

Unfortunately that was the lib way - and their social re-engineering project has created a country that tends to go that way. Toronto Star is one of the biggest papers in the country and has been known for years as the lib paper.

Seems to me that when someone puts their head in the sand to ignore a possible problem / solution it makes others responsible to save their exposed arse!

B.C.


BC,when has Canada not been their For the USA....Is not that what they say about the Newyork Times now?......I did offer ways to combat millitary and terroist activity......Pakistan has nucular missle for years now,why did this not happen then........Was there not a treaty signed between Russia and the USA to stop building missiles? Why was that?Are you telling me that the first sign of war will be a nucular attack....If thats the case,no one wins...If its not all about who has the biggest dick,Why are missiles shaped like one?...

Pakistan is our allie. Pakistan is not threatening us.
Last I heard Japan is onside with MD.
Reagan proved that peace through strength works.
Tibet proves pacifisim doesnt work.
China has always been our enemy since the Korean war.


if peace through strength worked.....why is Iraq,still an issue after two invasions.......I know nothing of tibet other then the dahli lami is a very respect world figure for peace....China is our enemy???
 

Broke Cowboy

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nonothing said:
Broke Cowboy said:
nonothing said:
BC,when has Canada not been their For the USA....

You mean those "[email protected]@rds south of the border"? Or the "we will not come to Iraq - even with a mobile field hospital"?

How about .... well, that is not the point of this discussion so I do not think it wise to toss in a red herring that will loosen the topic. You want to go there start a new thread.


Is not that what they say about the Newyork Times now?......I did offer ways to combat millitary and terroist activity......Pakistan has nucular missle for years now,why did this not happen then.......

They could not reach us at that time - only China and India - things may have changed - have not kept up with it.

.Was there not a treaty signed between Russia and the USA to stop building missiles? Why was that?Are you telling me that the first sign of war will be a nucular attack....

Actually countries like the "Stan" countries are not covered under the treaties. You forget the rogue state mentality. And they are now with us - so treaties have no bearing upon defence. There are numerous "lost missiles and warheads" out there. A new and major worry is ship launched missiles - they come close - stay in international waters and do their thing.

No different than attempting to stop crime by calling the police. Fact is the crime is committed and THEN the police are called. To prevent an attack one must be proactive - NOT reactive.


If thats the case,no one wins...

Actually that is the problem - if one does as you suggest - then no one wins. If one is proactive then a win is possible. Personally I would rather have a defense mechanism in place rather than WISH I had the system after it was required.

If its not all about who has the biggest dick,Why are missiles shaped like one?...

Sarcasm deserves to be answered with sarcasm - To allow for better atmospheric "PENETRATION".

B.C.


All i will say to dignify your first staement is....The bastrads from the north are deing in Afganistan..

And you do not know where I come from - but you have assumed. I was recently in Bagram on "business". I expect I will be there in late July for a few weeks on additional "business" - a short trip this time. I can assure you I did not live behind the wire. Be that as it may you asked a question and I answered it. You then decided to cut and run. Are you sure you are not a Chretien follower? Or perhaps a Layton lover? Both losing situations at best.

Oh so I ask why did China not ask the world to get on board a missile defence program.....

China has it's own agenda - one of which is to drive the price so high as to ruin the western economy - as happened during the late 80's with the Soviet Union. Beware of China - they are not our friends. Think otherwise at your own peril.

Also why do Japan and China now have cold feet about the whole thing.....

I would bet Japan has changed it's mind due to the recent happenings in their neighbourhood. Watch for developments there.

Building more missiles is proactive...Could it not be construde by some countries,like say maybe china,that it would be giving another country first and only strike capabilities....

Missiles that will not reach another country's shores will not increase international tensions - the MD package fits that description.

Proactive I am not so sure.

On the treaty between Russia and the USA,it was the USA that broke the treaty and as I recall Russia was not all to pleased...

SALT is not my strong point - I will bow to you on this one - but I might spend some time perusing the history to check your statment if haying should ever slow down.

You come across as one who thinks the more weapons we have,they will stop building more ...Not sure with the ego of man that,that is possible.

Your description - certainly not mine. But you are entitled to your opinion however wrong it might be.

Oh and BC.there is no longer any sense in me talking to you.....you see things different then I do....

When one makes this type of statement I realize there is a problem. The problem is you have run out of arguments.

You choose to only pick what peices work for you best....

Do I? Seems to me I am prepared to counter every one of your lotus land ideals. As I stated in the past - when someone sticks their head in the sand it becomes the responsibility of the remainder of the community to protect that person's arse. Peace through negotiation has never lasted. Peace through strength has historically been respected.

Chamberlaine did say "Peace in our time" did he not? We were at war within weeks and he was defeated at the forthcoming polls. Thank heavens the Brit population showed how gutsy it was or we would be speaking a far different language today. If the Brits had fallen we would have been required to base our war time ops a long way from Europe and the outcome might have been vastly different. What is wrong with emulating this gutsy attitude?


You never even mention your fallout threat If we dont sign...

Fall out threat? Who cares? The Canucks obviously do not - or they would be looking at signing up. If you do not care about it - and do not want to prevent it by getting on board the MD defense train - then why should I?

I guess maybe you even saw the foolishness in that remark,but as ussaul it was left behind....

No, I simply figured you were willing to accept the consequences. After all you are dead set against MD - it is your right to chose your method of dying in a peace time OR a war time environment.

BC llike a few already before you,its best I no longer respond to you....

So my polite and calm debate here has you beaten? Seems to me a real man or a real woman would at least consider the option of changing their mind? You?

Say what you want about me,I am not caring any more in here...Your agenda is set and thats fine.

I have not attacked you or trashed you - I have strongly stated my points and countered your points - is that wrong?

I will just no longer argue with you....

Good - that means you are set to come on board. Perhaps you will give consideration to what I have written and you will at least see another viewpoint other than what you have been taught by your left leaning friends - friends who owe their existence to rough folks who do dirty deeds so you can write as you do without fear of reprisal, imprisonment or death.

I sense you to be very well educated in World matters,

I suspect I have been to a few more places than you and some of your friends - but that does not make me an ogre - it simply means I am prepared to pull the trigger if necessary.

May you never have to do that. But at the same time, you had better understand the value of people who can and HAVE done that so you can live your life in peace. It also gives you an opportunity to see what might become necessary in order for you or your family / children to maintain their safe and peaceful lifestyle.

Do you truly "STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE" or do you simply enjoy the benefits and hope someone else does the dirty work?

If it was required - Could you pull the trigger - or would you lie on the corner and whimper for your mommy? The answer is actually very important because it is easier to do if you have already searched your soul. Not enjoyable, but it is a bit easier.


and your sense of humour can be very witty yet cutting at times....

Thankyou - you should see a bunch of mil types after an operation. If they insult you they love you - if they ignore you they hate you - hard for some to understand.

I no longer need your peaching or lessons any more.......

Actually I thought I was debating. I think you are admitting defeat by cutting and running.

I wish you nothing but the best in your future endevours and wishing you godspeed......

I said this to you once before and while I am not sure you believed me - I said I will take that blessing. One never knows when it might come in handy - thank you.

Mr soapweed gave me good advice,I have start yielding that advice lately......You can call it a liberal laydown if you like,as I am sure you will find a way to negativly slip the word liberal into your next post....Take Care Sir...you are deffinitly one of a kind...

Hey - Soap is a good person who knows his own mind and tends to think as an independent - he is not afraid of much - but I bet his wife can run him ragged if he gets out of line!!! :D

Ah your sarcasm has not hurt me - it did make me smile. You see to be an original is not a bad thing. Indeed it is a good thing. For an original is something that in the end will be copied - even by some folks that are similar to you.

Enjoy your life - soft and safe as it may be. Give thanks to those who have provided - be they hard nosed politicians and there are some good ones - or the man / woman who is prepared to make your life the way it is today.

Even folks like you can make a difference - question is - what are you going to do to make this difference?

B.C.
 

RoperAB

Well-known member
Nonothing
The Chinesse slaughtered and inslaved the Tibetans. I cant remember anymore if they killed the Dali Lama of the day or if they just imprisoned him or if he fled the country.
China backed the N. Koreans in the Korean War. If we would have listened to Gen. Douglas McArthur and took on the then un nuclear Communist China we would not be in the situation that we are in today.
Communist China secretly worked with the Communist Soviets to back the Communist North Vietnamese during the Vietnam war. Yes I know they hated the Soviets but they hated the Americans even more.
Communist China has also been supplying N. Korea and proping them up despite the rest of the worlds attempt to isolate them.
Also its a safe bet that North Korea recieved their nuclear tech and missile tech from Communist China.
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
"If we would have listened to Gen. Douglas MacArther"...

I'd like to have a nickle for every time I have heard that phrase.
Too bad someone thought they knew more than he did. Looking
back, it was one of America's biggest blunders.

Sigh. :cry:
 

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