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Anonymous

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Here is one of hundreds of similar stories floating around the rightwingernut conspiracy world...

There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA
. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.


My question- why is Homeland Security and FEMA not using all these civilian detention camps the rightwingernut conspiracy folks have been telling us for years are hidden all over the country ??? :???: Perfect place to put these illegals flooding the border...

I've heard for years about these 600-1000 (supposed to be 100's in North Dakota alone) camps that have been built/are being built around the country- and of all the guards they have ready to lock up any government dissenters.... :???: :wink:

But ironically- I've never talked to a North Dakotan yet who has saw one or worked at one or know anyone that has... FEMA must be better than I thought--- and do a good job of camouflaging to hide hundreds of these huge camps in the flat lands of North Dakota that cause all the rightwingernuts to dribble in their undies ... :shock: :wink: :p :lol:


WHY ARE THEY NOT BEING USED NOW?


I wonder how many of those same conspiracy folks were trying to get a hunting license the day after this picture came out ? :???: :roll: :wink: :lol:
 

Brad S

Well-known member
Mike, good link but OT wasn't asking or trying to inform. The purpose of his post was to put slurs on the board. Ever since the left saw the support for legal government, they've tried to dismiss scrutiny, of out of control government, with the same list of dismissive slurs. The left has used such tactics for the last 40 years because their socialist agenda has been discredited the world over, ultimately with the Russian leader admonishing Obama over the ills of socialism. All their pathetic ilk has left is lies and force, I think your link would indicate the illegal FEMA installations have a lot to do with force.
 

Steve

Well-known member
There are no FEMA camps and anyone who believes that not to be the case is a conspiracy theorist who wears a tin foil hat.

Establishment of national emergency centers
(a)

In general

In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.

Designation of military installations as national emergency centers
(a)

In general

Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.


(c)

Location of national emergency centers

There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:
(1)

The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.
(2)

The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.
(3)

The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.
(4)

The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.
(5)

The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.
(6)

The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.
(d)

Preference for designation of closed military installations

Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.
(e)

Transfer of control of closed military installations

If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.
(f)

Cooperative agreement for joint use of existing military installations

If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.
source library of congress..



Nnot sure if they have gotten rid of the "FEMA" camp in Linden NJ... but it was on all the news shows even as fema denied it existed...

NORTH JERSEY -- Residents are wondering who built an enormous tent city, complete with guards, fencing, and gates, at an old General Motors plant site.

Anyone who travelled north on Routes 1 and 9 from Woodbridge to Linden remembers Linden Airport, and the GM plant right across the narrow lanes of the highway.

That plant was torn down in 2008 to make way for a building renaissance that so far hasn't happened. But in the past few days what has arisen aren't structures of steel and concrete, but an encampment comprised of wooden poles and white tent bunting.

In the tent city, there are water trucks, vehicles for taking showers, and what looks like a ton of raw materials for more building.

Trying to find out what it's for, though, is another story.

FEMA spokesman Scott Sanders at first denied that his agency had anything to do with the white tent city.

"We might provide provisions, but we don't run shelters,"

The tent city is set up to house 500 people, he said. A recent story at mycentraljersey.com said that the encampment would hold up to 4,000 utility workers.

"FEMA is in charge of it," Miller said. "It's for utility workers. Where they are going, I can't tell you. What they are doing, I have no idea. They have been there for a couple of days."

In another phone call, Sanders was a bit more forthcoming. "We might pay for the shelter, but we don't track people who sign in, and we don't track people who sign out. We have no operational control.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-883300

those tin hat wearers over at CNN and CBS can talk because reporters were not allowed into the camps.. :lol:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nj-moves-sandy-evacuees-from-tent-shelters/

The huge sleeping tent at the complex has a hard floor. A separate tent houses showers in trailers and portable toilets, she said, and a third serves as a cafeteria. Another tent has a lounge area and charging station.

Reporters are barred from entering the complex.

FEMA loses credibility when it tries to deny a camp exists when everyone can see it.. including the national news.

and that feeds the rumors...
 

Mike

Well-known member
Brad S said:
Mike, good link but OT wasn't asking or trying to inform. The purpose of his post was to put slurs on the board. Ever since the left saw the support for legal government, they've tried to dismiss scrutiny, of out of control government, with the same list of dismissive slurs. The left has used such tactics for the last 40 years because their socialist agenda has been discredited the world over, ultimately with the Russian leader admonishing Obama over the ills of socialism. All their pathetic ilk has left is lies and force, I think your link would indicate the illegal FEMA installations have a lot to do with force.

Yep. You're correct. Fatsquatch just got handed is azz again by Steve too.

He'll never learn.............. :lol:
 

Mike

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111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 645

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES


January 22, 2009

Mr. Hastings of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.


Section 1.Short title

This Act may be cited as the “National Emergency Centers Establishment Act”.

Sec. 2.Establishment of national emergency centers

(a)In general.—

In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.

(b)Purpose of national emergency centers.—

The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure—

(1)to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;


(2)to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;


(3)to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and


(4)to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.


Sec. 3.Designation of military installations as national emergency centers

(a)In general.—

Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.

(b)Minimum requirements.—

A site designated as a national emergency center shall be—

(1)capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;


(2)environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;


(3)capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;


(4)capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;


(5)capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;


(6)required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:

(A)one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and


(B)the other shall be used daily for training; and


(7)easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.


(c)Location of national emergency centers.—

There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:

(1)The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.


(2)The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.


(3)The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.


(4)The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.


(5)The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.


(6)The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.


(d)Preference for designation of closed military installations.—

Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.

(e)Transfer of control of closed military installations.—

If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.

(f)Cooperative agreement for joint use of existing military installations.—

If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.

(g)Reports.—

(1)Preliminary report.—

Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site—

(A)an outline of the reasons why the site was selected;


(B)an outline of the need to construct, repair, or update any existing infrastructure at the site;


(C)an outline of the need to conduct any necessary environmental clean-up at the site;


(D)an outline of preliminary plans for the transfer of control of the site from the Secretary of Defense to the Secretary of Homeland Security, if necessary under subsection (e); and


(E)an outline of preliminary plans for entering into a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f).


(2)Update report.—

Not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site—

(A)an update on the information contained in the report as required by paragraph (1);


(B)an outline of the progress made toward the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);


(C)an outline of the progress made toward entering a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and


(D)recommendations regarding any authorizations and appropriations that may be necessary to provide for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.


(3)Final report.—

Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site—

(A)finalized information detailing the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);


(B)the finalized cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and


(C)any additional information pertinent to the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.


(4)Additional reports.—

The Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, may submit to Congress additional reports as necessary to provide updates on steps being taken to meet the requirements of this Act.

Sec. 4.Limitations on statutory construction

This Act does not affect—

(1)the authority of the Federal Government to provide emergency or major disaster assistance or to implement any disaster mitigation and response program, including any program authorized by the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5121 et seq.); or


(2)the authority of a State or local government to respond to an emergency.


Sec. 5.Authorization of appropriations

There is authorized to be appropriated $180,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2009 and 2010 to carry out this Act. Such funds shall remain available until expended.

Sec. 6.Definitions

In this Act, the following definitions apply:

(1)Closed military installation.—

The term “closed military installation” means a military installation, or portion thereof, approved for closure or realignment under the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101–510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note) that meet all, or 2 out of the 3 following requirements:

(A)Is located in close proximity to a transportation corridor.


(B)Is located in a State with a high level or threat of disaster related activities.


(C)Is located near a major metropolitan center.


(2)Emergency.—

The term “emergency” has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).

(3)Major disaster.—

The term “major disaster” has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).

(4)Military installation.—

The term “military installation” has the meaning given such term in section 2910 of the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101–510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note).
 
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Anonymous

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No-just because one person saw a hurricane or disaster camp- isn't even close to the hundreds/thousands of detention camps rightwingernut conspiracist's have been fearmongering and hatemongering with... Along with the fearmongering about Homeland Security's purchase of zillions of rounds of ammo ( which when you look at the actual figure breaks down to hardly even enough for every Homeland Security Officer to do their quarterly firearms qualifications and any training)... Just more fearmongering by the hate all government folks...

If you look back- you can even find where our local nutcase Hypocrit was going on about them- and MsSage...
Go to any militia or righwingernut website: Or google it an get thousands of hits:
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin527.htm
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_FEMA02.htm

Some claim Montana is full of them or ND (never seen one in all the time I've been here- and we couldn't even give our former AFB away to the government or anyone.. Hundreds of empty and aging houses and buildings just decayed away) ...

Supposed to be hundreds along the southern border (Texas/Arizona/NM) if you listen to some of these wingnuts--capable of handling 5,000 to 50,000 people each, already manned by guards- So my question still stands -
IF ALL THESE CAMPS EXIST- WHY ARE WE NOW NOT USING THEM ?
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
No-just because one person saw a hurricane or disaster camp- isn't even close to the hundreds/thousands of detention camps rightwingernut conspiracist's have been fearmongering and hatemongering with...

You started with 600. Now it's thousands. You sound like a fearmonger/hatemonger against rightwingernut conspiracists, not that that would surprise anyone here. :roll:
 

Steve

Well-known member
Like I said,.. when the government lies to the people about one camp.. then it leads others to distrust them..





Debunking Web Myths About FEMA Camps

A little over a month ago, I had a call. It was like the billionth call from a woman who asked me about FEMA prison camps. And I said to my producer, "Can we just please debunk this or prove it to be accurate?"

I kind of snapped on the lady because, honestly, I'm sick of seeing the e-mails about the FEMA camps.

Look, let's just stick to the facts. There is enough truth out there that pisses people off. We don't need all the lies.

The basic idea is that FEMA setting up evil concentration camps to be used against U.S. citizens. Now, along with the 9/11 Truthers, this is one of the most pervasive conspiracy theories on the Internet because it comes with supposed video — there's the video proof, right there. That video now has well over a million views on YouTube.

So we set out to get the truth. And quite honestly, I don't believe that there are FEMA concentration camps. I think that sounds kind of nuts. But if there are, I'll show them to you. If there aren't, I'll show that to you.

We set out to get the truth on it. And after our initial research, I came in and I said, "Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We can't debunk this?" Well, no, I thought we had done enough research to get the video. I wanted to line up video side-by-side.

Well, predictably, the media started claiming that somehow or another I believed in these conspiracy theories even though I said on the air a million times I don't and I've said that for years.

Not to mention the entire time they were running their mouths, we were working with an independent group to debunk them or to prove them. I also said that on the air over and over and over again. But who listens to context?

The one guy that can actually set the record straight here is James Meigs. He's the editor-in-chief of that independent group I was talking about otherwise known as Popular Mechanics.

James is here now to do the same with the FEMA camps.

OK. Let's just start the easy stuff here. There are — I just want to collapse this as quickly as possible. There are things that, yes, FEMA has a right to have camps and they can do things to help people. And if you wanted to go down the crazy road of — "but they could be turned into..." — they actually could be, but there is like a million other steps that have to happen.

JAMES MEIGS, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, POPULAR MECHANICS: That's correct. And what we did was we looked into these claims. You know, you can't go and visit every one of the 600 sites that some of these conspiracy theorists claim.


MEIGS: So we started looking at the ones that are most popular on the Internet.

And what did you find?

MEIGS: Well, it is not very hard to find, like many of these things. The truth is actually fairly evident. This is an Amtrak repair facility in Beach Grove, Indiana. The woman who made this video initially claimed that it's some kind of American Auschwitz. And they have outfitted buildings with gas and they've got these strange turnstiles.

In fact, it is a repair facility. We sent a crew there the other day and we got...

MEIGS: Yes. So initially, they had some old buildings that were boarded up that have since been knocked down. But we also went inside the other buildings, and sure enough, what did we find? They were repairing trains in there.

MEIGS: Right. And what we found out is — first of all, one of those buildings has been knocked down. The other ones were upgraded. Their heating system was obsolete. And more than 15 years ago, they upgraded them to gas heat so they could work on the trains.

BECK: Now, tomorrow I will ask him the one question that the conspiracy people never want to ask. And I'll ask it and we will show you. Wait until you see this, tomorrow.

By the way, if you want to get all of the information and more on the FEMA camps, debunk information that we couldn't get into the segment, help silence the annoying conspiracy freak in your life. There is enough out there. We don't need to make stuff up.

all it takes is for one lie to start a rumor.. FEMA has been caught in plenty of lies..

and like any conspiracy theory.. the rumors cloud and overshadow the real facts..

so those who believe them are a bit crazy ,.. but so are those who totally discount them..

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850



then when you get done with that...

http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
Labor programs set forth by the Civilian Inmate Labor Program regulation involve the use of minimum and low-security inmates from facilities under the control of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, with a few apparent exceptions for state-held and locally-held inmates, on installations controlled by the Army. Army Regulation 210-35 outlines two purposes for this docket:

Provides Army policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison camps on Army installations.[2]
Discusses sources of federal and state civilian inmate labor.

The regulation also sets forth policy for the creation of prison camps on Army installations. These would be used to keep inmates of the labor programs resident on the installations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Inmate_Labor_Program

maybe if the federal government would stop passing laws and regulations on how to establish and run these "camps".. it wouldn't give the CP theorists so much ammunition.. :lol: :shock:
 

Steve

Well-known member
So my question still stands -
IF ALL THESE CAMPS EXIST- WHY ARE WE NOW NOT USING THEM ?

I guess you were not paying attention...

As the border crisis continues, the Department of Defense is requesting that additional military bases make housing facilities and land available to accommodate a continued influx of illegal alien children.

Once HHS receives the list of bases, they go through an internal review process to determine if they want to accept the facility.”

Access to the military base facilities housing the illegal aliens has been extremely restrictive, both regarding the media and Congress

military bases ‘turning into refugee camps,’

"Our military bases are turning into refugee camps. I never thought I'd see this in the United States of America," House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said.

But in the meantime, the federal government is scrambling to house illegal immigrant minors awaiting immigration proceedings. They are spread out among a number of facilities, including military bases like Ft. Sill in Oklahoma and Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.

The Department of Health and Human Services is considering temporarily housing as many as 600 undocumented children at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, said Air Force Lt. Col. Thomas Crosson, a Defense Department spokesman.

The children would be housed at an old summer camp facility at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, a congressional staffer said. HHS has hired a private contractor to provide meals and other services for the children.

Camp Edwards military base on Cape Cod and Westover Air Reserve Base in Chicopee as possible sites in response to a request from President Barack Obama to help with the immigration overload nationwide.

The site would be selected by U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and that’s he’s been assured by the federal government that all costs would be covered by Washington.

The temporary shelter would be open for four months, house up to 1,000 children and would be under federal control.

While staying in the facility, the children will be processed by immigration officials for deportation, reunification or asylum.

They will not attend local public schools during their shelter period

anyone notice a common theme?

WICHITA FALLS, TX – Our sister station KFDX-TV, in Wichita Falls, has confirmed Sheppard Air Force Base, along with all U.S. military bases, is under consideration to house additional immigrant children if needed, and if the base has the facilities.

Lt. Col. Tom Crosson of the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, told KFDX-TV all U.S. military bases were required to report by yesterday any facilitiesthey may have for temporary housing of children.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Steve said:
So my question still stands -
IF ALL THESE CAMPS EXIST- WHY ARE WE NOW NOT USING THEM ?

I guess you were not paying attention...

As the border crisis continues, the Department of Defense is requesting that additional military bases make housing facilities and land available to accommodate a continued influx of illegal alien children.

Once HHS receives the list of bases, they go through an internal review process to determine if they want to accept the facility.”

Access to the military base facilities housing the illegal aliens has been extremely restrictive, both regarding the media and Congress

military bases ‘turning into refugee camps,’

"Our military bases are turning into refugee camps. I never thought I'd see this in the United States of America," House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said.

But in the meantime, the federal government is scrambling to house illegal immigrant minors awaiting immigration proceedings. They are spread out among a number of facilities, including military bases like Ft. Sill in Oklahoma and Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.

The Department of Health and Human Services is considering temporarily housing as many as 600 undocumented children at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, said Air Force Lt. Col. Thomas Crosson, a Defense Department spokesman.

The children would be housed at an old summer camp facility at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, a congressional staffer said. HHS has hired a private contractor to provide meals and other services for the children.

Camp Edwards military base on Cape Cod and Westover Air Reserve Base in Chicopee as possible sites in response to a request from President Barack Obama to help with the immigration overload nationwide.

The site would be selected by U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and that’s he’s been assured by the federal government that all costs would be covered by Washington.

The temporary shelter would be open for four months, house up to 1,000 children and would be under federal control.

While staying in the facility, the children will be processed by immigration officials for deportation, reunification or asylum.

They will not attend local public schools during their shelter period

anyone notice a common theme?

WICHITA FALLS, TX – Our sister station KFDX-TV, in Wichita Falls, has confirmed Sheppard Air Force Base, along with all U.S. military bases, is under consideration to house additional immigrant children if needed, and if the base has the facilities.

Lt. Col. Tom Crosson of the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, told KFDX-TV all U.S. military bases were required to report by yesterday any facilitiesthey may have for temporary housing of children.


That's exactly what I've been saying Steve-- if all these Civilian Detention Camps (600-1000 is the number the rightwingernut conspiracist fearmongers have been using) around the country-- already built and manned with each providing holding facilities for 5,000 to 50,000--- why is our government now scrambling and looking to some of these military bases asking if they have any room to house them :???:

WHY NOT JUST USE ALL THESE SO-CALLED CAMPS?

BECAUSE THEY ONLY EXIST IN THE MINDS OF THESE MILITIA'S, "PATRIOTS", AND SOVEREIGNS THAT HATE ALL GOVERNMENT AND THAT FEARMONGER AND HATEMONGER TO TRY TO CREATE ANARCHY....
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
So my question still stands -
IF ALL THESE CAMPS EXIST- WHY ARE WE NOW NOT USING THEM ?

I guess you were not paying attention...

As the border crisis continues, the Department of Defense is requesting that additional military bases make housing facilities and land available to accommodate a continued influx of illegal alien children.

Once HHS receives the list of bases, they go through an internal review process to determine if they want to accept the facility.”

Access to the military base facilities housing the illegal aliens has been extremely restrictive, both regarding the media and Congress


military bases ‘turning into refugee camps,’

"Our military bases are turning into refugee camps. I never thought I'd see this in the United States of America," House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said.

But in the meantime, the federal government is scrambling to house illegal immigrant minors awaiting immigration proceedings. They are spread out among a number of facilities, including military bases like Ft. Sill in Oklahoma and Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.

The Department of Health and Human Services is considering temporarily housing as many as 600 undocumented children at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, said Air Force Lt. Col. Thomas Crosson, a Defense Department spokesman.

The children would be housed at an old summer camp facility at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, a congressional staffer said. HHS has hired a private contractor to provide meals and other services for the children.

Camp Edwards military base on Cape Cod and Westover Air Reserve Base in Chicopee as possible sites in response to a request from President Barack Obama to help with the immigration overload nationwide.

The site would be selected by U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and that’s he’s been assured by the federal government that all costs would be covered by Washington.

The temporary shelter would be open for four months, house up to 1,000 children and would be under federal control.

While staying in the facility, the children will be processed by immigration officials for deportation, reunification or asylum.

They will not attend local public schools during their shelter period

anyone notice a common theme?

WICHITA FALLS, TX – Our sister station KFDX-TV, in Wichita Falls, has confirmed Sheppard Air Force Base, along with all U.S. military bases, is under consideration to house additional immigrant children if needed, and if the base has the facilities.

Lt. Col. Tom Crosson of the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, told KFDX-TV all U.S. military bases were required to report by yesterday any facilitiesthey may have for temporary housing of children.


That's exactly what I've been saying Steve-- if all these Civilian Detention Camps (600-1000 is the number the rightwingernut conspiracist fearmongers have been using) around the country-- already built and manned with each providing holding facilities for 5,000 to 50,000--- why is our government now scrambling and looking to some of these military bases asking if they have any room to house them :???:

WHY NOT JUST USE ALL THESE SO-CALLED CAMPS?

BECAUSE THEY ONLY EXIST IN THE MINDS OF THESE MILITIA'S, "PATRIOTS", AND SOVEREIGNS THAT HATE ALL GOVERNMENT AND THAT FEARMONGER AND HATEMONGER TO TRY TO CREATE ANARCHY....


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Have your children already filed for power of attorney?
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
So my question still stands -
IF ALL THESE CAMPS EXIST- WHY ARE WE NOW NOT USING THEM ?

I guess you were not paying attention...

As the border crisis continues, the Department of Defense is requesting that additional military bases make housing facilities and land available to accommodate a continued influx of illegal alien children.

Once HHS receives the list of bases, they go through an internal review process to determine if they want to accept the facility.”

Access to the military base facilities housing the illegal aliens has been extremely restrictive, both regarding the media and Congress

military bases ‘turning into refugee camps,’

"Our military bases are turning into refugee camps. I never thought I'd see this in the United States of America," House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said.

But in the meantime, the federal government is scrambling to house illegal immigrant minors awaiting immigration proceedings. They are spread out among a number of facilities, including military bases like Ft. Sill in Oklahoma and Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.

The Department of Health and Human Services is considering temporarily housing as many as 600 undocumented children at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, said Air Force Lt. Col. Thomas Crosson, a Defense Department spokesman.

The children would be housed at an old summer camp facility at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, a congressional staffer said. HHS has hired a private contractor to provide meals and other services for the children.

Camp Edwards military base on Cape Cod and Westover Air Reserve Base in Chicopee as possible sites in response to a request from President Barack Obama to help with the immigration overload nationwide.

The site would be selected by U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and that’s he’s been assured by the federal government that all costs would be covered by Washington.

The temporary shelter would be open for four months, house up to 1,000 children and would be under federal control.

While staying in the facility, the children will be processed by immigration officials for deportation, reunification or asylum.

They will not attend local public schools during their shelter period

anyone notice a common theme?

WICHITA FALLS, TX – Our sister station KFDX-TV, in Wichita Falls, has confirmed Sheppard Air Force Base, along with all U.S. military bases, is under consideration to house additional immigrant children if needed, and if the base has the facilities.

Lt. Col. Tom Crosson of the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, told KFDX-TV all U.S. military bases were required to report by yesterday any facilitiesthey may have for temporary housing of children.


That's exactly what I've been saying Steve-- if all these Civilian Detention Camps (600-1000 is the number the rightwingernut conspiracist fearmongers have been using) around the country-- already built and manned with each providing holding facilities for 5,000 to 50,000--- why is our government now scrambling and looking to some of these military bases asking if they have any room to house them :???:

WHY NOT JUST USE ALL THESE SO-CALLED CAMPS?

BECAUSE THEY ONLY EXIST IN THE MINDS OF THESE MILITIA'S, "PATRIOTS", AND SOVEREIGNS THAT HATE ALL GOVERNMENT AND THAT FEARMONGER AND HATEMONGER TO TRY TO CREATE ANARCHY....

so far only you have "believed" these groups' claims... :lol:

most of US realize the truth lies somewhere in between what the government representatives say and the laws passed authorizing the "camps"

I have looked over most of the sites and at a few of the lists..

they are not as large as you claim

since you are making the allegations.. of hundreds of sites.. feel free to list a few ... other wise you are making a secret mountain out of a hidden mole hill..
 
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