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Questions for Dick Cheney

djinwa

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This is a bit hard to watch, especially his use of the word "everyone". Well I was against it before we invaded, and questioned the intelligence, and assumed it would turn out badly. So we need to start asking Cheney some real questions, as I've listed below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW6dWbbaylo&feature=youtu.be

Mr. VP, do you believe in the teachings of Jesus to love our enemies and be peacemakers and live by the Golden Rule?

Mr. VP, if Barack Obama is destroying America, would you welcome forces from the middle east coming here to overthrow Obama, destroy our infrastructure, and establish a democracy, returning the favor we gave them?

Mr. VP, why are we in the Middle East? If not for oil, is it goat cheese?

Mr. VP, if we are justified in fighting over their oil, would they be justified in fighting over our corn?

Mr. VP, do you think we were morally justified in installing a dictator in Iran in 1953? Is it right to support other dictators while claiming to spread democracy?

Mr. VP, was it right for us to ship WMD material to Iraq to use against Iran? Why would we need to get rid of Saddam for having WMDs that we gave to him?

Mr. VP, if a foreign country was dropping bombs, or imposing sanctions that resulted in the death of your child, would you retaliate?

Mr. VP, when do you think we should stop killing children in Iraq?

Mr. VP, when do you think parents in Iraq will stop becoming angry for the deaths of their children?

Mr. VP, after we killed their children, do you think Iraqi parents hate us because we are rich and free?

Mr. VP, why is Brazil not a target for terrorists, as they are also rich and free. Why is Brazil not fighting a war on terrorism?

Mr. VP, when do you think the war on terrorism will end? Should we try to stop killing children and leave their countries and see if terrorism would end?

Mr. VP, do you regularly visit the maimed, debilitated and mentally deranged Iraq veterans and their families? How are the children of those veterans doing? How many veterans are committing suicide and how are their families doing?

Mr. VP, after lifetime care of the maimed, debilitated, and mentally deranged soldiers, how much will the Iraq war cost? How much is that per household in the U.S?

Mr. VP, how will we pay for the war in Iraq? How much will you pay for the war in Iraq?

Mr. VP, do you think the American people should pay directly for the war, as in write a monthly check? Do you think the people should sacrifice and ration food and supplies as we did in WW2?

Mr. VP, have you read the speech, War is a Racket, by General Smedley Butler? What did you think of it?

Mr. VP, have contractors made any money in Iraq? Has there ever been a case in which making money influenced the policy decisions of a leader?

Mr. VP, if you can hunt or drive, you can go to Iraq and drive in a convoy, or shoot bad guys. Are you willing to do that for a cause you truly believe in?

Mr. VP, wouldn't it be better for old guys to die or be maimed, than for young guys with children?

Mr. VP, since our country's survival is at stake, would you support mandatory combat duty for all men over 50 who can drive or shoot?

Mr. VP, what do you think of the following quote? Have you ever used fear in promoting your policies?

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
how does blaming Bush/Cheney solve any of today's problems?



More striking, just 37 percent approve of his handling of foreign policy.

Trading Bowe Bergdahl for five Taliban terrorists: 44 percent disapprove, 30 percent approve.

And the killer statistic: 54 percent say he’s unable to lead the country and get the job done, compared with 42 percent who believe he can.

Todd, who is NBC’s chief White House correspondent and political director as well as an MSNBC host, called this “a disaster for the president.”

“Essentially the public is saying, ‘Your presidency is over’ by saying a number like that, 54 percent saying he no longer has the ability to lead and solve problems. That’s one of those things, you’re sitting at the White House going, ‘Wow.’”

But the president hasn’t been able to buy a good headline for many weeks. VA scandal. Bergdahl. Lost IRS emails. Iraq imploding. And now, this NBC/Wall Street Journal survey.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/19/media-drop-f-bomb-on-obama-failed-president/
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
how does blaming Bush/Cheney solve any of today's problems?

Wouldn't be so bad if Cheney would just crawl back into his hole and shut up- rather than now trying to blame everyone else for his and Bush's big screw-up... But FAUX-News and some of the other media sites are digging up him, Rummy, Wolfowitz, and every other dummy that played a role in that mess- trying to blame everyone else ... But I don't think most buy it- and their reminder of how incompetent that bunch was is playing right into the hands of the Dems... Iraq- and all the screw ups around it is one of the reasons there is not a Republican in the White House today...


Andy Borowitz

In Rare Consensus, Sunnis, Shiites Tell Cheney to Shut Up
 

Steve

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Mr. VP, if you can hunt or drive, you can go to Iraq and drive in a convoy, or shoot bad guys. Are you willing to do that for a cause you truly believe in?

Mr. VP, wouldn't it be better for old guys to die or be maimed, than for young guys with children?

Mr. VP, since our country's survival is at stake, would you support mandatory combat duty for all men over 50 who can drive or shoot?

I bet the liberals would be totally shocked by the number of folk who are to old to join who would stand up and do what is right if allowed..
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Wouldn't be so bad if Cheney would just crawl back into his hole and shut up- rather than now trying to blame everyone else for his and Bush's big screw-up... But FAUX-News and some of the other media sites are digging up him, Rummy, Wolfowitz, and every other dummy that played a role in that mess- trying to blame everyone else ... But I don't think most buy it- and their reminder of how incompetent that bunch was is playing right into the hands of the Dems... Iraq- and all the screw ups around it is one of the reasons there is not a Republican in the White House today...

Didn't I see a quote from you praising the fact that the Iraqis were given a chance at freedom and self-determination?
 
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Anonymous

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Dying vet’s ‘f*** you’ letter to George Bush & Dick Cheney needs to be read by every American




03.19.2013
11:11 am

To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young

I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.

I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.

My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.

—Tomas Young


http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/tomasyoung.asp
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
:lol:

OldShoveAWeatherVaneUpMyAssAndI'llTellYaWhichWayThePoliticalWindsAreBlowin' said:
They are all proud they have been able to do something to help a country again learn what freedom is.......
 

Steve

Well-known member
seems he had a change of heart.. on the dieing part..

same source..

in December 2013, several months after penning "The Last Letter," Young told an NPR interviewer that he had changed his mind about his decision to end his life, saying: "I just came to the conclusion that I wanted some more time with my wife. And I decided that I really don't have the chutzpah to go ahead and do away with myself. If you're in life and you start to think things are a little too rough to handle, just think of me and what I go through, and you realize that hey, I don't have it so bad."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/tomasyoung.asp#KtB71vITypVQmvhk.99

he said, noting that he'd changed his mind on his first wedding anniversary in April. “I don’t want her to go through what I know she is going to have to go through when I’m gone."

he has gone through alot...

but some of his views.. are pretty far left..

https://twitter.com/tomasyoung34/media
 
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