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R-CALF Speaks to Students

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Today 4/19/2006 3:56:00 PM


R-CALF: Nebraska Membership Chair Speaks to College Students



Curtis, Neb. – R-CALF USA Nebraska Membership Chair Chris Abbott recently spoke to more than 40 students at the Nebraska College of Technical Agriculture (NCTA) in Curtis about the national organization’s positions on Mandatory Country-of-Origin Labeling (COOL), animal identification, and why the U.S. should strive to maintain the highest health and safety standards in the world for cattle and beef products. Abbott also is the president of the Independent Cattlemen of Nebraska (ICON), an affiliate organization of R-CALF USA.



“R-CALF is working to maintain the health of your industry so that it will be profitable for you, the younger generation, to enter,” Abbott told the audience. “We are working to implement Mandatory COOL in order to distinguish our product from imported beef, and to increase the marketability of our product.



“We need to be able to identify imported beef before we require Animal ID on every head of cattle,” continued Abbott. “Consumers want to know what country their meat is coming from.



“Future producers and consumers, such as those at NCTA, will be the backbone that drives the cattle industry in coming years,” said Abbott. “They need to be informed and involved.”



Pat Morgan, president of the Nebraska Junior Hereford Association, said future cattle producers need an organization willing to speak up and be noticed so there will be a good and productive industry for generations to come.



NCTA Student Senate President Jenna Henrichs said Abbott really seemed to spark the students’ interest by making them aware of the many issues that will affect their own futures in the U.S. cattle industry.



“He opened their eyes to what R-CALF is, and how it is working to help ensure the future of our industry,” said Henrichs.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Abbott told the audience. “We are working to implement Mandatory COOL in order to distinguish our product from imported beef, and to increase the marketability of our product.


Why don't you label and ID American beef. Lead by example.
 

Econ101

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Abbott told the audience. “We are working to implement Mandatory COOL in order to distinguish our product from imported beef, and to increase the marketability of our product.


Why don't you label and ID American beef. Lead by example.

The packers control that. I thought you knew the structure of the beef industry. They aren't going to do it because it is not in their interest to do it. It is in the producer's interest.
 
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What college age students really need to see is a debate from industry leaders on both sides so they can see who has the facts to back their positions and who just has the emotional unsupported statements and packer blaming allegations.

A nice review would be the court decisions R-CALF has lost.


~SH~
 

Econ101

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~SH~ said:
What college age students really need to see is a debate from industry leaders on both sides so they can see who has the facts to back their positions and who just has the emotional unsupported statements and packer blaming allegations.

A nice review would be the court decisions R-CALF has lost.


~SH~

Have you asked Agman if he got the Pickett transcripts released yet for peer review of Hauseman's $750 per hour work on it?
 

Denny

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~SH~ said:
What college age students really need to see is a debate from industry leaders on both sides so they can see who has the facts to back their positions and who just has the emotional unsupported statements and packer blaming allegations.

A nice review would be the court decisions R-CALF has lost.


~SH~

Our local cattlemens Assn members have been setting up an open Debate guess what

R-CALF will be there

MN State Cattlemen's maybe

NCBA no no no no chickenshits

United Stockgrowers ????

This was suppose to be an informative meeting but your Beloved NCBA acts like a bunch of preschoolers.They don't want to show up and be questioned by open minded adults they like the sheep they have now.



anyone interested in coming to the meeting it will be on Wendsday May 3rd at T'Maxwell's in Staples Mn hwy 10 on the east edge of town it's at no charge....Maybe NCBA will quit being childish and send someone to explain the policies that affect the cattle/beef business.

Say SH your an NCBA man maybe you could come and speak or send someone who is willing to back your orginization????Not showing up says alot about NCBA to me.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Econ101 said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Abbott told the audience. “We are working to implement Mandatory COOL in order to distinguish our product from imported beef, and to increase the marketability of our product.


Why don't you label and ID American beef. Lead by example.

The packers control that. I thought you knew the structure of the beef industry. They aren't going to do it because it is not in their interest to do it. It is in the producer's interest.


ECON M'ID is in the producers hands. In Canada the producers took the lead and we have a very workable system. It wasn't with out resistance but most are pretty darn happy we have it now. I feel it is one main reason we are shipping to japan and other countries.
Labeling can be in producers control. USPB could do and maybe are, Creekstone could do it and many other smaller packers or brands are doing it. What's the matter with the American producer do they want the government to do everything for them. If like you say the consumer wants labeled meat why aren't the producers giving it to them?
 

Econ101

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Econ101 said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Abbott told the audience. “We are working to implement Mandatory COOL in order to distinguish our product from imported beef, and to increase the marketability of our product.


Why don't you label and ID American beef. Lead by example.

The packers control that. I thought you knew the structure of the beef industry. They aren't going to do it because it is not in their interest to do it. It is in the producer's interest.


ECON M'ID is in the producers hands. In Canada the producers took the lead and we have a very workable system. It wasn't with out resistance but most are pretty darn happy we have it now. I feel it is one main reason we are shipping to japan and other countries.
Labeling can be in producers control. USPB could do and maybe are, Creekstone could do it and many other smaller packers or brands are doing it. What's the matter with the American producer do they want the government to do everything for them. If like you say the consumer wants labeled meat why aren't the producers giving it to them?

Because the packers control the gateway to labeling and they don't want to do it because they can mix cheaper foreign sources of meat in and don't want consumers to know like the law required.

By the way, I don't think it would hurt Canadian producers to brag it comes from Canada if it is sold in the U.S.. Do you?
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Econ101 said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Econ101 said:
The packers control that. I thought you knew the structure of the beef industry. They aren't going to do it because it is not in their interest to do it. It is in the producer's interest.


ECON M'ID is in the producers hands. In Canada the producers took the lead and we have a very workable system. It wasn't with out resistance but most are pretty darn happy we have it now. I feel it is one main reason we are shipping to japan and other countries.
Labeling can be in producers control. USPB could do and maybe are, Creekstone could do it and many other smaller packers or brands are doing it. What's the matter with the American producer do they want the government to do everything for them. If like you say the consumer wants labeled meat why aren't the producers giving it to them?

Because the packers control the gateway to labeling and they don't want to do it because they can mix cheaper foreign sources of meat in and don't want consumers to know like the law required.

By the way, I don't think it would hurt Canadian producers to brag it comes from Canada if it is sold in the U.S.. Do you?

Heck when in a box it is labeled Product of Canada. Even our cattle going south are branded CAN.
I would bet dollars to donuts that if some of these smaller packers like Creekstone which is supposed to be so sensitive to the market started labeling beef and the consumers demanded and payed a premium the big packers would follow suit.
Some of these smaller Branded outfit are taking it right back to the ranch. The problem is only some consumers will pay for this information.
 
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Denny: "This was suppose to be an informative meeting but your Beloved NCBA acts like a bunch of preschoolers.They don't want to show up and be questioned by open minded adults they like the sheep they have now."

Hahaha! Yeh, I'm sure that's the reason. They're just running scared from R-CALF's lies. LOL! Anyone can see that the only ones left here is a liar, a deceiver, and a statement making R-CALF support group.

Like I said, review the court cases and the decisions to see for yourself how well R-CALF's "THEORIES" can stand up in a court of law.



~SH~
 

RoperAB

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~SH~ said:
What college age students really need to see is a debate from industry leaders on both sides so they can see who has the facts to back their positions and who just has the emotional unsupported statements and packer blaming allegations.

A nice review would be the court decisions R-CALF has lost.


~SH~

Im glad you said college age students. Can you imagine rcalf going into a high school and teaching the kids that the reason they lose in court all the time and in Washington DC is because they think the courts are rigged and all the politicians are bought off.
 

Sandhusker

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RoperAB said:
~SH~ said:
What college age students really need to see is a debate from industry leaders on both sides so they can see who has the facts to back their positions and who just has the emotional unsupported statements and packer blaming allegations.

A nice review would be the court decisions R-CALF has lost.


~SH~

Im glad you said college age students. Can you imagine rcalf going into a high school and teaching the kids that the reason they lose in court all the time and in Washington DC is because they think the courts are rigged and all the politicians are bought off.

Dang it, Roper - lay off that Molson until after supper! :wink: Why would R-CALF tell the kids about rigged courts and bought off politians when they haven't said that to anybody else?
 

Tam

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Sandhusker said:
RoperAB said:
~SH~ said:
What college age students really need to see is a debate from industry leaders on both sides so they can see who has the facts to back their positions and who just has the emotional unsupported statements and packer blaming allegations.

A nice review would be the court decisions R-CALF has lost.


~SH~

Im glad you said college age students. Can you imagine rcalf going into a high school and teaching the kids that the reason they lose in court all the time and in Washington DC is because they think the courts are rigged and all the politicians are bought off.

Dang it, Roper - lay off that Molson until after supper! :wink: Why would R-CALF tell the kids about rigged courts and bought off politians when they haven't said that to anybody else?

So you admit that R-CALF and the Others LOST FAIR AND SQUARE in court? :shock:
 

Sandhusker

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Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
RoperAB said:
Im glad you said college age students. Can you imagine rcalf going into a high school and teaching the kids that the reason they lose in court all the time and in Washington DC is because they think the courts are rigged and all the politicians are bought off.

Dang it, Roper - lay off that Molson until after supper! :wink: Why would R-CALF tell the kids about rigged courts and bought off politians when they haven't said that to anybody else?

So you admit that R-CALF and the Others LOST FAIR AND SQUARE in court? :shock:

You want to be a little more case-specific?
 

Tam

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Sandhusker said:
Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
Dang it, Roper - lay off that Molson until after supper! :wink: Why would R-CALF tell the kids about rigged courts and bought off politians when they haven't said that to anybody else?[/quote]

So you admit that R-CALF and the Others LOST FAIR AND SQUARE in court? :shock:

You want to be a little more case-specific?


Sandhusker I thought you said R-CALF wasn't saying anything about Politicans being paid off and rigged courts. taken from R-CALF press release.

Judicial Process Comes to Abrupt Halt by 9th Circuit’s Forceful Instructions to District CourtBILLINGS, MONT. (April 6, 2006) ------


USDA’s position, almost exclusively, has been supported by those with significant financial interests in unencumbered imports of Canadian cattle and beef.

“It’s truly unfortunate that USDA continues to view its primary role to be the promotion of free trade instead of the role Congress mandated – to protect the U.S. cattle herd and U.S. consumers,” said Kiker. “This plays into the hands of the multinational meatpackers who appear – in my opinion – to have as a main objective the continued sourcing of cheaper cattle and beef from foreign countries, with little to no regard for the science surrounding foreign animal diseases.


Just like you R-CALFers always do, I know you will say Where does it say the Politicans were paid off and the courts are rigged . :roll: But Does this not sound like R-CALF's own Pres. saying the USDA is working for the Multinational Meatpackers (those with significant financial interest) And since the 9th Circuit forcefully instructed Cebull to drop it, makes it look as if the 9th was working for the other side, you know the ones with significant financial interest, too. The "almost exclusively", comment makes it look as if little to none of the US cattle industry also supported the USDA and the Court rulings infavor of the USDA.
 

Sandhusker

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Tam, you're pretty good about being able to interpret what you want to interpret.

"USDA’s position, almost exclusively, has been supported by those with significant financial interests in unencumbered imports of Canadian cattle and beef."

Yes, Tam, there is no bold statement mentioning payoffs or corrupt courts - but there isn't even a mention or the slightest hint about politicians or the courts..... :shock: This statement doesn't have a thing to do with politicians or courts, it's about the USDA! :lol:

I've been spending too much time here and posting way more than my share - if some of you would quit coming with this wild inaccurate stuff about R-CALF I could do something else! I'm not going to sit quiet while the outfit that I'm convinced is doing more to protect the economic health of this cow country that I live in and depend on for my livelihood than anybody ever has falsehoods spread about it.
 

Denny

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~SH~ said:
Denny: "This was suppose to be an informative meeting but your Beloved NCBA acts like a bunch of preschoolers.They don't want to show up and be questioned by open minded adults they like the sheep they have now."

Hahaha! Yeh, I'm sure that's the reason. They're just running scared from R-CALF's lies. LOL! Anyone can see that the only ones left here is a liar, a deceiver, and a statement making R-CALF support group.

Like I said, review the court cases and the decisions to see for yourself how well R-CALF's "THEORIES" can stand up in a court of law.



~SH~

What in the heck are you talking about?

Do you know of any NCBA DIRECTOR'S that would be willing to speack to Independent Cattlemen which 90% belong to Niether R-CALF or NCBA???
Why is it that NCBA is not interested in Explaining their orginization and its policies.

We are giving each orginization an opportunity to state their agenda.Thats all not a Heated debate...
 
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