Sandhusker
Well-known member
"New science"? Just what is this "new science".
Mike: "Scott, do you have a link to that CHB research? I can find little bits and pieces of it, but now can't find the even an abstract. I saw it at one time but NO MORE.
Just one of the researchers name might help. I was telling a hereford guy the other day about it and he really needs it for some ads he is planning.
Help
You can PM me, call me, e-mail me, or link it here."
Sandbag: "I think that slapping a USDA Inspected stamp on foreign product when in fact a very small percentage of it is actually inspected by the USDA is detrimental to beef consumption."
Sandbag: "I don't think it encourages domestic beef consumption to have import standards lower than our customers and even lower than some third-world countries."
Sandbag: "I think that if consumers found out that the government agency that is charged with protecting their food supply abandoned a policy designed to protect them in favor of corporate coffers they would nearly cut beef out of their diet completely."
S.S.A.P. to OT: "So you don't (chose not to) market through a branded beef program ... in effect you are riding on the shirttails of the "USDA inspected" stamp so you don't have to be bothered with ID'ing your cattle - shame on you Oldtimer, have you no pride in your product!"
S.S.A.P.: "Helluva marketing scheme you use. ..... I'd say you and r-calf are getting dangerously close to destroying beef consumption, in effect all sales; you're already planted the seeds of doubt in the generic market and have now expanded to at least one branded beef program. Not to mention you have your local butcher running scared, because of r-calf and your comments he feels he can not leave the Product of Canada stamp in place when the USDA inspected stamp is added - you have destroyed the market for a product he choses to buy."
S.S.A.P.: "They have denounced just about every company, procedure or method that beef is marketed by."
~SH~ said:Sandbag,
Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?
What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?
Anyone can talk Sandbag how about backing your position for a change?
~SH~
~SH~ said:Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?
What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?
What about Egypt?
Answer the questions and stop dancing!
~SH~
Sandbag (previous): "I don't think it encourages domestic beef consumption to have import standards lower than our customers and even lower than some third-world countries."
SH (in response): "What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?"
Sandbag (diverting having to qualify his statement): "What import standards? Don't we generally talk about cattle and BEEF here?"
Sandbag (previous): "I think that slapping a USDA Inspected stamp on foreign product when in fact a very small percentage of it is actually inspected by the USDA is detrimental to beef consumption."
SH (in response): "Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?"
Sandbag (diverting having to qualify his statement): "What will you accept as proof on the inspection question?"
~SH~ said:Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?
What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?
What about Egypt?
Answer the questions and stop dancing!
~SH~
Sandbag: "SH, our standards on importing beef are lower than Egypt's. How much plainer can I make it?"
Sandbag: "Get on the USDA website and see what we have to do in order to export there and then compare that with what we require of Canada."
Sandbag: "While you're on the site, see for yourself how much product is actually inspected."
Sandbag: ".... not that being presented with facts would change your opinon."
Conman: "What is your evidence to the contrary, SH? Do you deny it? Care to make a little wager on it?"
~SH~ said:Quit stalking me you damn freak!
~SH~
~SH~ said:Sandbag: "SH, our standards on importing beef are lower than Egypt's. How much plainer can I make it?"
That doesn't tell me a damn thing.
Perhaps Egypt's standards are not justified. Do you follow everything that someone else does? Ah....scratch that question. Sorry, forgot who I was talking to for a minute.
You made the statement now you can qualify it.
Sandbag: "Get on the USDA website and see what we have to do in order to export there and then compare that with what we require of Canada."
You made the statement and now you want to divert having to qualify it.
Sandbag: "While you're on the site, see for yourself how much product is actually inspected."
You made the statement and now you want to divert having to qualify it.
Typical Sandbag!
Sandbag: ".... not that being presented with facts would change your opinon."
You don't deal in facts, you deal in what you want to believe so spare me the rhetoric.
~SH~
~SH~ said:Conman: "What is your evidence to the contrary, SH? Do you deny it? Care to make a little wager on it?"
Butt out! Nobody is talking to you.
Quit stalking me you damn freak!
~SH~