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R-CALF's growing influence in the beef industry.

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Anonymous

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Mike: "Scott, do you have a link to that CHB research? I can find little bits and pieces of it, but now can't find the even an abstract. I saw it at one time but NO MORE.

Just one of the researchers name might help. I was telling a hereford guy the other day about it and he really needs it for some ads he is planning.

Help

You can PM me, call me, e-mail me, or link it here."


Mike,

There is no way I am going to be able to find that information without a considerable effort and I don't have the time right now. Sorry!

What you need to do is contact CHB and have them point you in the right direction or contact someone at CSU that can point you in the right direction. I was privy to the results of the study, not all the details of the study.


Sandbag: "I think that slapping a USDA Inspected stamp on foreign product when in fact a very small percentage of it is actually inspected by the USDA is detrimental to beef consumption."

Where is your source to back this allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?

BRING IT! TALK IS CHEAP!


Sandbag: "I don't think it encourages domestic beef consumption to have import standards lower than our customers and even lower than some third-world countries."

More mindless repetition of the R-CULT mantra.

What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?

BRING IT! TALK IS CHEAP!


Sandbag: "I think that if consumers found out that the government agency that is charged with protecting their food supply abandoned a policy designed to protect them in favor of corporate coffers they would nearly cut beef out of their diet completely."

Still risking the integrity of 80% of our US beef consumption to stop the importation of 5% of our US beef consumption.

Still lying about the affects of BSE to stop Canadian imports because you are too ignorant to understand a global beef market.


Either the ruminant feed ban, SRM removal, banning the slaughter of downer cows, and increased bse surveilance testing assures the safety of the beef in EACH COUNTRY or it assures the safety of our beef in NEITHER COUNTRY.

Your "so called" lowered import standards is just more empty blaming rhetoric.


S.S.A.P. to OT: "So you don't (chose not to) market through a branded beef program ... in effect you are riding on the shirttails of the "USDA inspected" stamp so you don't have to be bothered with ID'ing your cattle - shame on you Oldtimer, have you no pride in your product!"

EXACTLY!

If these hypocritical packer blamers were so bent on selling only US beef, they would supply a branded source verified beef product but that would require effort and it would require IDing their cattle. They'd rather bitch about the packers than do anything about it. That's what blamers do best.


S.S.A.P.: "Helluva marketing scheme you use. ..... I'd say you and r-calf are getting dangerously close to destroying beef consumption, in effect all sales; you're already planted the seeds of doubt in the generic market and have now expanded to at least one branded beef program. Not to mention you have your local butcher running scared, because of r-calf and your comments he feels he can not leave the Product of Canada stamp in place when the USDA inspected stamp is added - you have destroyed the market for a product he choses to buy."

Luckily for US cattlemen, the media can see through R-CULT's isolationist protectionist hypocrisy and does not view R-CULT as a credible source of information on BSE.

If they did, our headlines would have read:

US CATTLEMEN'S ORGANIZATION ClAIMS US BEEF IS "CONTAMINATED" and "HIGH RISK" DUE TO BSE.

In the process of defending their hypocrisy, Leo would expose the fact that the firewalls in the US that supposedly make our beef safe ARE THE SAME IN CANADA.


S.S.A.P.: "They have denounced just about every company, procedure or method that beef is marketed by."

Now maybe you understand why there is two organizations. One for blamers and one for forward thinkers.

You've seen the true colors of the blamers.


~SH~
 

Jason

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No one seems to be worried that US cattle sent to Ontario are being processed in Canadian plants, graded under Canada's system and sold as product of Canada.

Looks like the Americans are willing to use deception and trickery to get a better price for their cattle. :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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SH, "Where is your source to back this allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA? BRING IT! TALK IS CHEAP! "

You want a direct quote? Oooops, I forgot, you say "A direct quote proves nothing". Do some homework before you mouth off.


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Sandbag: "I don't think it encourages domestic beef consumption to have import standards lower than our customers and even lower than some third-world countries."


More mindless repetition of the R-CULT mantra. What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?
BRING IT! TALK IS CHEAP!"

Apparently, your education was cheap, too. Ever hear of a country called Egypt?

SH, "In the process of defending their hypocrisy, Leo would expose the fact that the firewalls in the US that supposedly make our beef safe ARE THE SAME IN CANADA."

Having the same car doesn't mean much if one runs and one doesn't. So far, it appears ours is running. Four post-ban cases in Canada tell a different story about theirs.
 
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Anonymous

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Sandbag,

Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?

What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?


Anyone can talk Sandbag how about backing your position for a change?


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Sandbag,

Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?

What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?


Anyone can talk Sandbag how about backing your position for a change?


~SH~

Back my position" for a change"? It seems I just did that with Egypt. How often do I need to change?

What will you accept as backing on the inspection?
 
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Anonymous

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Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?

What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?



What about Egypt?

Answer the questions and stop dancing!


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?

What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?



What about Egypt?

Answer the questions and stop dancing!


~SH~

What import standards? :shock: Don't we generally talk about cattle and BEEF here?

What will you accept as proof on the inspection question?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandbag (previous): "I don't think it encourages domestic beef consumption to have import standards lower than our customers and even lower than some third-world countries."

SH (in response): "What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?"

Sandbag (diverting having to qualify his statement): "What import standards? Don't we generally talk about cattle and BEEF here?"

Typical Sandbag diversionary circus chicken dance!


Next topic:

Sandbag (previous): "I think that slapping a USDA Inspected stamp on foreign product when in fact a very small percentage of it is actually inspected by the USDA is detrimental to beef consumption."

SH (in response): "Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?"

Sandbag (diverting having to qualify his statement): "What will you accept as proof on the inspection question?"

Typical Sandbag diversionary circus chicken dance!

That should about cover the slime ball diversionary tactics of Sandbag!



~SH~
 

Econ101

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~SH~ said:
Where is your source to back your allegation that only a very small percentage of foreign beef is inspected by USDA?

What import standards do we have that are lower than our customers and third world countries?



What about Egypt?

Answer the questions and stop dancing!


~SH~

What is your evidence to the contrary, SH? Do you deny it? Care to make a little wager on it?
 

Sandhusker

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SH, our standards on importing beef are lower than Egypt's. How much plainer can I make it? I don't understand what you're having a problem with. Get on the USDA website and see what we have to do in order to export there and then compare that with what we require of Canada. Tell us what you find.

While you're on the site, see for yourself how much product is actually inspected. You won't believe anything I bring, so I'll tell you where the info is so you can find it yourself - not that being presented with facts would change your opinon.
 
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Anonymous

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Sandbag: "SH, our standards on importing beef are lower than Egypt's. How much plainer can I make it?"

That doesn't tell me a damn thing.

Perhaps Egypt's standards are not justified. Do you follow everything that someone else does? Ah....scratch that question. Sorry, forgot who I was talking to for a minute.

You made the statement now you can qualify it.


Sandbag: "Get on the USDA website and see what we have to do in order to export there and then compare that with what we require of Canada."

You made the statement and now you want to divert having to qualify it.


Sandbag: "While you're on the site, see for yourself how much product is actually inspected."

You made the statement and now you want to divert having to qualify it.

Typical Sandbag!


Sandbag: ".... not that being presented with facts would change your opinon."

You don't deal in facts, you deal in what you want to believe so spare me the rhetoric.


~SH~
 
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Anonymous

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Conman: "What is your evidence to the contrary, SH? Do you deny it? Care to make a little wager on it?"

Butt out! Nobody is talking to you.

Quit stalking me you damn freak!


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Sandbag: "SH, our standards on importing beef are lower than Egypt's. How much plainer can I make it?"

That doesn't tell me a damn thing.

Perhaps Egypt's standards are not justified. Do you follow everything that someone else does? Ah....scratch that question. Sorry, forgot who I was talking to for a minute.

You made the statement now you can qualify it.


Sandbag: "Get on the USDA website and see what we have to do in order to export there and then compare that with what we require of Canada."

You made the statement and now you want to divert having to qualify it.


Sandbag: "While you're on the site, see for yourself how much product is actually inspected."

You made the statement and now you want to divert having to qualify it.

Typical Sandbag!


Sandbag: ".... not that being presented with facts would change your opinon."

You don't deal in facts, you deal in what you want to believe so spare me the rhetoric.


~SH~

Pardon me, SH, but allow me to remind you of what you have told others, "The burden of proof lies with the accuser"; "I'm not going to back everything I say" (I forget the exact wording, but that was the message). If you think I'm wrong, educate yourself on the topics you obviously don't know anything about (but somehow still feel compelled to comment on in the style of a suger-hyped seventh grader) and then come back to the adult's table. Until then, I find myself in the position of having the Village Idiot think I'm wrong. Guess what? I can live with that.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Conman: "What is your evidence to the contrary, SH? Do you deny it? Care to make a little wager on it?"

Butt out! Nobody is talking to you.

Quit stalking me you damn freak!


~SH~

As I said on another post, your quote on the bottom of your posts is an open invitation. Please don't get mad when it is accepted.
 

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