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Reid guts Senate gun control bill

By Alexander Bolton and Jonathan Easley - 03/19/13 02:34 PM ET





Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Tuesday he will not include a renewal of the federal assault weapons ban in a Senate gun control bill because it could not win even 40 votes on the Senate floor.

“Right now her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes," Reid told reporters on Tuesday. "That’s not 60. I have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues we talked about."

Reid indicated a proposal sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) to expand background checks to cover private gun sales would not make it in the base bill, either.

“There are a couple different background check proposals floating around,” Reid said. “All these issues are important and I’m going to do what I can to make sure we have a fair, sound debate on this but we can’t have it unless I have something that I can put on the floor to proceed to it.

“I’m not going to try to put something on the floor that won’t succeed. I want something that will succeed,” he added.

Reid said he needs at least five Republican votes to begin a floor debate on gun-violence legislation. He hopes to bring the gun control bill to the Senate floor after the Easter recess.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the sponsor of the assault weapons ban legislation, has been unable to find a Republican co-sponsor and talks between Schumer and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) on a bipartisan deal to expand background checks fell apart earlier this month.

There is bipartisan support for legislation authored by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) to crack down on the illegal trafficking of firearms.

Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) and Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the ranking Republican on Judiciary, have endorsed the gun trafficking legislation. It will likely serve as the foundation of gun-violence legislation



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Just as I predicted- there was no way in He!! that Congress would pass any type of gun ban- and that rightwingernuts were wasting a lot of good Depends... :wink:
And this way- Reid takes the heat off a lot of folks of both parties...
 

Mike

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Hey Einstein, you don't think the uproar of gunowners had anything to do with them nixing those Bills?

In other words, do you think they would have dropped them from the legislation if we had quietly sat back and said nothing? :roll: :roll:

Are you really as stupid as you seem?
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
Just as I predicted- there was no way in He!! that Congress would pass any type of gun ban- and that rightwingernuts were wasting a lot of good Depends... :wink:
And this way- Reid takes the heat off a lot of folks of both parties...

And in the process make Feinstein look like the idiot she is. :lol2: :lol2:
 

Whitewing

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There is bipartisan support for legislation authored by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) to crack down on the illegal trafficking of firearms.

Holder and the King should be investigated.
 

Steve

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and that rightwingernuts were wasting a lot of good Depends

for citizens to be engaged in the political process is not a waste of time...

but fro the senate to waste months on a bill that did not have public nor representative support is a waste of time..

they could have worked on the real problems instead of attacking law abiding citizens rights...
 

Whitewing

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Steve said:
and that rightwingernuts were wasting a lot of good Depends

for citizens to be engaged in the political process is not a waste of time...

but fro the senate to waste months on a bill that did not have public nor representative support is a waste of time..

they could have worked on the real problems instead of attacking law abiding citizens rights...

I wonder why the old man doesn't call them the do-nothing senate?

:roll:
 

Soapweed

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Oldtimer said:
Reid guts Senate gun control bill

By Alexander Bolton and Jonathan Easley - 03/19/13 02:34 PM ET





Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Tuesday he will not include a renewal of the federal assault weapons ban in a Senate gun control bill because it could not win even 40 votes on the Senate floor.

“Right now her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes," Reid told reporters on Tuesday. "That’s not 60. I have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues we talked about."

Reid indicated a proposal sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) to expand background checks to cover private gun sales would not make it in the base bill, either.

“There are a couple different background check proposals floating around,” Reid said. “All these issues are important and I’m going to do what I can to make sure we have a fair, sound debate on this but we can’t have it unless I have something that I can put on the floor to proceed to it.

“I’m not going to try to put something on the floor that won’t succeed. I want something that will succeed,” he added.

Reid said he needs at least five Republican votes to begin a floor debate on gun-violence legislation. He hopes to bring the gun control bill to the Senate floor after the Easter recess.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the sponsor of the assault weapons ban legislation, has been unable to find a Republican co-sponsor and talks between Schumer and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) on a bipartisan deal to expand background checks fell apart earlier this month.

There is bipartisan support for legislation authored by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) to crack down on the illegal trafficking of firearms.

Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) and Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the ranking Republican on Judiciary, have endorsed the gun trafficking legislation. It will likely serve as the foundation of gun-violence legislation



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/289037-senate-gun-bill-wont-include-assault-weapons-ban#ixzz2O1X9uFTu
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Just as I predicted- there was no way in He!! that Congress would pass any type of gun ban- and that rightwingernuts were wasting a lot of good Depends... :wink:
And this way- Reid takes the heat off a lot of folks of both parties...

Mike said:
Hey Einstein, you don't think the uproar of gunowners had anything to do with them nixing those Bills?

In other words, do you think they would have dropped them from the legislation if we had quietly sat back and said nothing? :roll: :roll:

Are you really as stupid as you seem?

This says it all. :roll:
 

Traveler

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The libs put so much effort into trashing the NRA and it's members. Must be such a disappointment. Without fighting back the outcome would have been much different, of course.
 

Tam

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Mike said:
Hey Einstein, you don't think the uproar of gunowners had anything to do with them nixing those Bills?

In other words, do you think they would have dropped them from the legislation if we had quietly sat back and said nothing? :roll: :roll:

Are you really as stupid as you seem?

Must you ask? :???:
 

Tam

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Just as I predicted- there was no way in He!! that Congress would pass any type of gun ban- and that rightwingernuts were wasting a lot of good Depends... :wink:
And this way- Reid takes the heat off a lot of folks of both parties...

Oldtimer have you ever stop to notice how many times this Administration has tossed crap at the wall to see what the reaction would be? If people sat back and said nothing your heros would be regulating every aspect of your life BET ON IT. BTW veterans would also be buying their own health insurance to cover their battlefield injuries, or did you forget that that was another one of the Obama Administration haybrained ideas that met pushback. :roll:

They pull this kind of stuff then back off so they look like they care what people think, then when the smoke clears and everyone is looking in the opposite direction they sneak their crap through hidden in a bill that has to be passed to fund something important to those opposing them. If the Dems want your guns they will find a way constitutionally OR NOT. Obama has nothing to lose so he will be burying you with his FAR LEFT LIBERAL AGENDA. :mad:
 

gmacbeef

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Oldtimer said:
Reid guts Senate gun control bill

By Alexander Bolton and Jonathan Easley - 03/19/13 02:34 PM ET





Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Tuesday he will not include a renewal of the federal assault weapons ban in a Senate gun control bill because it could not win even 40 votes on the Senate floor.

“Right now her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes," Reid told reporters on Tuesday. "That’s not 60. I have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues we talked about."

Reid indicated a proposal sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) to expand background checks to cover private gun sales would not make it in the base bill, either.

“There are a couple different background check proposals floating around,” Reid said. “All these issues are important and I’m going to do what I can to make sure we have a fair, sound debate on this but we can’t have it unless I have something that I can put on the floor to proceed to it.

“I’m not going to try to put something on the floor that won’t succeed. I want something that will succeed,” he added.

Reid said he needs at least five Republican votes to begin a floor debate on gun-violence legislation. He hopes to bring the gun control bill to the Senate floor after the Easter recess.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the sponsor of the assault weapons ban legislation, has been unable to find a Republican co-sponsor and talks between Schumer and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) on a bipartisan deal to expand background checks fell apart earlier this month.

There is bipartisan support for legislation authored by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) to crack down on the illegal trafficking of firearms.

Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) and Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the ranking Republican on Judiciary, have endorsed the gun trafficking legislation. It will likely serve as the foundation of gun-violence legislation



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/289037-senate-gun-bill-wont-include-assault-weapons-ban#ixzz2O1X9uFTu
Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

Just as I predicted- there was no way in He!! that Congress would pass any type of gun ban- and that rightwingernuts were wasting a lot of good Depends... :wink:
And this way- Reid takes the heat off a lot of folks of both parties...

WOW you really went out on a limb there O.T. Probably 99.9 % of us Conservatives Knew it wasn't gonna happen.
 

Faster horses

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I see Obama as failing. The assault weapon ban was to be his major achievement
this second time around. He has talked about it in most of his speeches
and now it's not going to happen. I think some of the Donks in office are starting
to see him in a different light.

Obama didn't win this one. The NRA did.


His approval numbers are way down with everyone except the young voters.
Reid was concerned about all the Donks that were up for re-election in the RED
states and knew that assault weapon ban would cook all their gooses. So
even Reid didn't stick with Obama's expectation. And Diane Feinstein is really
mad. She was under the impression that it would come to a vote. Which it
didn't.

I think we're on the edge of seeing lots of rumbling coming from the Donks.
We are on the starting edge of it. Obama is not a very-well liked person politically, even though he won another term.

Wiser politicians are startng to distance themselves from him.
 

littlejoe

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NRA seems to be dandy at raising money.

I'd like to see them set up--or finance--an LLC that manufactures ammo.

Members get orders filled first, at reasonable prices.

Something's wierd with this whole ammo deal---most manufacturers ---supposedly operating at peak capacity and can't keep up----who in the hell that's in business, manufacturing something at healthy profit---doesn't boom out, add a shift, build on, increase efficiency?
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
littlejoe said:
NRA seems to be dandy at raising money.

I'd like to see them set up--or finance--an LLC that manufactures ammo.

Members get orders filled first, at reasonable prices.

Something's wierd with this whole ammo deal---most manufacturers ---supposedly operating at peak capacity and can't keep up----who in the hell that's in business, manufacturing something at healthy profit---doesn't boom out, add a shift, build on, increase efficiency?

I've seen reports that the Department of Homeland Security has purchased over 1.6 billion rounds of ammo in the past year. Don't know if that's normal (hard to believe it is) and which agency would have been making such purchases before that department was founded, but if true, that's a big hit on supply.
 

Tam

Well-known member
Whitewing said:
littlejoe said:
NRA seems to be dandy at raising money.

I'd like to see them set up--or finance--an LLC that manufactures ammo.

Members get orders filled first, at reasonable prices.

Something's wierd with this whole ammo deal---most manufacturers ---supposedly operating at peak capacity and can't keep up----who in the hell that's in business, manufacturing something at healthy profit---doesn't boom out, add a shift, build on, increase efficiency?

I've seen reports that the Department of Homeland Security has purchased over 1.6 billion rounds of ammo in the past year. Don't know if that's normal (hard to believe it is) and which agency would have been making such purchases before that department was founded, but if true, that's a big hit on supply.

It would not surprise me at all to hear that the Obama Administration is putting a run on the manufacturers and buying everything he can to keep it out of the hands of legal law abiding gun owners.

It also would not surprise me to hear that Obama is buying all that ammo to supply that domestic civilian armed force, that answers only to him to keep the peace on US soil, that he campaign on in 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=GgPfudirj_Y

Now why would a candidate figure he was going to need a domestic army answering to only him? :? Could it be he knew there was going to be some serious rioting going on in the streets due to the CHANGES he was going be making and the police were not going to beable to handle it once the voters saw how he was planning to destroy the country with regulation, higher taxes and DEBT?
 

Mike

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Meanwhile, the local law enforcement agencies can't get ammo.

Two deputies have stopped by here in the past 3 weeks to get some 5.56's.

A deal is in the works about reloading their practice/qualifying rounds.

Getting components is the holdup.................factories won't give quotes on future shipment prices. Primers are a real problem.
 

Tam

Well-known member
Mike said:
Meanwhile, the local law enforcement agencies can't get ammo.

Two deputies have stopped by here in the past 3 weeks to get some 5.56's.

A deal is in the works about reloading their practice/qualifying rounds.

Getting components is the holdup.................factories won't give quotes on future shipment prices. Primers are a real problem.

I wonder if the Mexican Drug Cartels bought ammo with the guns Holder sold them. :?
 
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