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Reinstating Draft

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Anonymous

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McCain made news a few months ago when he said that he could support a draft if it was done fairly- and there were no exemptions for anyone depending on occupation or social status....
Now apparently the other day in a town meeting, McSame, in agreeing with some ladies question, said that a draft might have to be reinstated in order to catch Bin Laden, and take care of the wars in Afghanistan, and Iraq- and the growing distrust/tension of Russia....

It sounds like the Dems have got those video clips and are making an ad on the old warmongers wanting a draft...

It will not set well with the mothers and grandmothers- especially those that grew up thru the Baby Boomer period and the last draft....Especially if they come back with the "You can't have my Alex" ad about the same time....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq30lapbC9c
 

Aztumbleweed

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The draft should have never been dropped and every body should have to serve. Allthough it won't matter if they elect that black America hating socialist as president. That will be the end of America as we know it. It is hard to believe that any thinking person would support someone you know is going to take some of your rights. And what is worse at least for us in the west is the liberal, environmental wackjobs he appoints to federal land positions. But I suppose I could get a job off the place but that would be hard to because king Obama would have done away with all but service jobs just as him and his kind have done for years drive real jobs out of America and replace them will service jobs. :mad:
 
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Anonymous

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A "true conservative" look at the issue....

Rethinking the Draft

by Ron Paul

Once again the possibility of reinstating a military draft is being discussed in Washington, and while the idea seems remote it is not unthinkable.

Democratic Congressman Charles Rangel of New York, soon to be a powerful committee chair, has openly called for reinstating the Selective Service System. Retired Army General Barry McCaffrey claims that our ground forces in both Afghanistan and Iraq are stretched far too thin, and desperately need reinforcements. Meanwhile, other political and military leaders suggest that several hundred thousand additional troops might be needed simply to restore some semblance of order in Iraq. We are nearing the point where a choice will have to be made: either decrease our troop commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan significantly, or produce thousands of new military recruits quickly. So a discussion of military conscription is not purely academic.

Yet the Department of Defense remains steadfastly opposed to a draft. A Pentagon report stated that draft registration could be eliminated "with no effect on military mobilization and no measurable effect on military recruitment." Most military experts believe a draft would actually impair military readiness, despite the increase in raw manpower, because of training and morale problems.

So why is the idea of a draft even considered? One answer is that our military forces are spread far too thin, engaged in conflicts around the globe that are none of our business. With hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in literally hundreds of foreign nations, we simply don't have enough soldiers to invade and occupy every country labeled a threat or deemed ripe for regime change. Given the choice, many in Congress would rather draft more young bodies than rethink our role as world policeman and bring some of our troops home.

Military needs aside, some politicians simply love the thought of mandatory service to the federal government. The political right favors sending young people to fight in aggressive wars like Iraq. The political left longs to send young people into harm's way to save the world in places like Darfur. But both sides share the same belief that citizens should serve the needs of the state-- a belief our founders clearly rejected in the Declaration of Independence.

To many politicians, the American government is America. This is why, on a crude level, the draft appeals to patriotic fervor. Compulsory national service, whether in the form of military conscription or make-work programs like AmeriCorps, still sells on Capitol Hill. Conscription is wrongly associated with patriotism, when really it represents collectivism and involuntary servitude.

I believe wholeheartedly that an all-volunteer military is not only sufficient for national defense, but also preferable. It is time to abolish the Selective Service System and resign military conscription to the dustbin of American history. Five hundred million dollars have been wasted on Selective Service since 1979, money that could have been returned to taxpayers or spent to improve the lives of our nation's veterans.

Ronald Reagan said it best: "The most fundamental objection to draft registration is moral." The notion of involuntary servitude, in whatever form, is simply incompatible with a free society.

http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-Draft-081207.html
 

MoGal

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The US is in the process of signing with Iraq to be out by 2011. Why its not in the US news (well that's a whole nother topic about monopolies) is normal for our mainstream media.

We've lost an admitted to number of 4000 troops and for what??? for China ? China has signed a 3 billion dollar deal for Iraq oil. Russia and Iran are signing a pact to control natural gas (I could say here that Bush has thrown Iran into the arms of Russia. Russia needs South Osetia and Albezinar (sp?) so that they can cross a land bridge when they fight Israel according to Ezekiel 38-39)

You really have to look for news out of this country to find out what's going on.

Maybe this draft is for the UN as they plan on the USA patrolling the planet or it could be for the military unit that McCain and Obama are calling for to be installed here in the USA so they can take away all guns. You have to remember Obama/Biden have cosponsored the Global Poverty Act which is a handgun ban............ the UN wants the USA disarmed.
 

woranch

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You left a few things out of your cut and paste OT .

Like the dates ............Originally published August 12, 2007

Thats just an old Ron Paul ad... what Dr. Paul wrote on November 27, 2006:


But you did do a good job of editing . :clap:
 
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Anonymous

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woranch said:
You left a few things out of your cut and paste OT .

Like the dates ............Originally published August 12, 2007

Thats just an old Ron Paul ad... what Dr. Paul wrote on November 27, 2006:


But you did do a good job of editing . :clap:

And so the fundamentals of a draft have changed between 8/07 and 8/08 :???:

Reagans been dead for years- but the philosophy of what he said remains unchanged....
 

woranch

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