Disagreeable said:aplusmnt said:Along the same lines, if we pull out we will be leaving the country and all it resources be it Oil or Terrorist to the influence of Iran. Basically if we just pull out in the end Iran will double in size and resources.
:roll: I can't believe this stuff! Do you read the paper? Watch the news? Iran and supporters of Iran are virtually in control of the southern part of Iraq now! It's the British zone and they have pulled into their safe spots until they go home and let the militias run the region! It would take another invasion by thousands of troops to get them out of the country.
I doubt Iraq will ever be a Democracy them people just do not have it in them to accept loosing. To be a Democracy you have to be willing to accept defeat and live with it. They are all willing to vote but then when they do not get the results they want the do not graciously wait until the next election they go shoot and bomb those that won.
If you don't think Iraq will be a democracy, why are Americans dying in that country? What are we fighting for? Are you saying that we're fighting to stop it from becoming a haven for terrorists? It was not a haven for terrorists before Bush chose to invade! Have we spent billions$, lost thousands of good men, for the status quo?
It would take a few planes and bombs to get them out of the region. That is the problem we do not fight to win we fight to appease Liberals world wide.
Never thought Democracy was our reason to go to Iraq. We went there to oust a leader that was a threat to the U.S. one that had basically declared war on the U.S. and has and would support Terrorist against us. Iraq was an enemy that supports terrorist methods.
I could care less rather they have a democracy or not. Personally I would level the whole place and move on. But that is not something we will do. So now we have to continue to kill terrorist as they come to Iraq. And get the country going in some good direction before pulling out.
Even though I do not think this war was about Oil, the leaving certainly should be. We can not just up and leave the resources that are in Iraq such as the Oil to fall in the hands of Iran, Humas type groups or Al Qaeda.
You try to simplify this issue and it is not simple. Cut and Run is to simple of an approach. Will not be in Iraq's or U.S. best interest.
They say we can not win this war, well I say lets fight it like a war, lets start some more shock and awe and blow some crap up. Lets start shooting some people and tell the civilians either you are for us or against us. Now clean up your own mess or we will be leveling the place.