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memanpa

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That doesn't make you an expert on the war in Iraq or any other. Soldiers are there to fight, not to make politicial decisions. They follow orders as best they can and still stay alive. I know many Vietnam vets and none of them were interested in talking politics during and right after that war. But many of them are very interested in stopping the Iraqi war because they see us going down the same road.

you know many vietnam vets? well young lady i probabaly know a lot more than you know! from all branches of the services, wanna swap numbers ?

i never claimed to be an expert on thae war in IRAQ or any other war. howeven unlike you I HAVE had some experence in battle field!

YES i did join the swift boaters i was one of them. navy seal never met KERRY but he sure as hell was not anywhere near any of the patrols i made and i am darned glad of that because i wanted a spotter that had good vision not clouded, my spotter was almost as important as my rifle and scope. yes i have 2 purple hearts and the navy cross. i would give them up in a heart beat for one more minute in a buddy that did not make it home like i did.

of course you can spell hyocrite, it is easy when it is your last name.

i never once said i was an expert on the war in IRAQ or any war for that matter, nor do i spend countless hours looking for cut and paste items to post here!




Am I stepping toes now that I point out how the Bush Bunch and Republicans in general have disrespected veterans? Yet you get on here and proclaim yourself as a know it all because you have wounds from a war. Did you give John Kerry the respect he deserved in the last campaign? Or did you join the Swift Boaters? Did you give John Murtha the respect he deserved when he called for withdrawal from Iraq? I can answer that with a no, you didn't. His Vietnam wounds don't make him smart and knowledgable about Iraq, but your wounds make you know everything there is to know about war. Can you spell hypocrite? I can.

if not then how can you be such an expert as to what goes on over there? or anywhere in the world for that matter all you KNOW is what READ your'e just like your sister no nothing,

I don't claim to know everything that goes on over there. But I do have the good sense to know that, going on four years after the invasion, we're sending more troops in. That does not mean we're succeeding; it means we're failing. Only a blind idiot would say things are going well in Iraq and I don't have to be there to see that. Neither do you; you just refuse to admit you were wrong. So more young Americans will die before someone in the White House has the guts to admit the whole endeavor was wrong and get our troops out. It took years and tens of thousands of lives in Vietnam. I don't think it's going to take that long in Iraq.
not once did I say things are going well in IRAQ, thengs never go well in war and only an IDIOT would imply i said it was!



OK, you tell me how successful we are in Iraq, bearing in mind that the military just extended the tours of hundreds of young men and is putting additional troops in country. And the government we've put in place with the blood of our young and billions$ won't even denouce terrorism! Tell me how that equates success. I'm waiting. All I expect to hear from you are insults. Surprise me, why don't you, with a real response? :roll:

how about this for a real response.
i do not have the information to tell me how successful we are over there and niether do YOU. all you have is a lot of cut and past articles from the liberal news groups you suscribe too, as well as your employer LIFD.


gotta go feed the puppies

and i thank you for not respecting me for that in itself would be a DISgrace to the rest of the AMERICIANS and patriots on the board. and my fellow soldiers.[/quote]

I didn't say I didn't respect you. I compared my respect to you with the respect the Bush Bunch and the Repulican party gave some other Vietnam Vets. If you think they were properly respectful, then you should have no problem with my comment. If you think their service to our country was disrespected, then you should stand up and say so.[/quote

like i said i am glad you do not respect me for that would be an insult to know you did

gotta feed the puppies, here DIS here NONO, come get your treat
 

RoperAB

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Disagreeable said:
That doesn't make you an expert on the war in Iraq or any other. Soldiers are there to fight, not to make politicial decisions. They follow orders as best they can and still stay alive. I know many Vietnam vets and none of them were interested in talking politics during and right after that war. But many of them are very interested in stopping the Iraqi war because they see us going down the same road.

Am I stepping toes now that I point out how the Bush Bunch and Republicans in general have disrespected veterans? Yet you get on here and proclaim yourself as a know it all because you have wounds from a war. Did you give John Kerry the respect he deserved in the last campaign? Or did you join the Swift Boaters?


http://www.acsa.net/iskerryatraitor.htm
Here is a small exerpt, you should read the whole thing from the link.
What Vets? Kerrys "Vietnam Veterans Against the War" were not Vietnam War Veterans at all, not even their founder, Alan Hubble, was. Instead, the group was actually young anti-War Activists and Communist Party Members, some members had very limited military backgrounds. They were, however, PRETENDING to be Vietnam Vets Against the War trying to strengthen a cause that trod upon the reputations and sacrifices of the American Soldier.
The Kerry-Vets Against the War sold their services to the North Vietnamese, meeting with them illegally in Paris and then allowing themselves to be used as propaganda warriors for North Vietnam, in an effort to cut a private deal for Democratic Party Oil Interests in exchange for a vigorous Democratic Party effort to undermine America's involvement in Vietnam, a strategy that worked before, and may be at work now in the international Terrorism arena. Unfortunately, however, the Terrorists won't just be taking over a small piece of the planet in Vietnam as did the North Vietnamese. They are bargaining behind the scenes with disloyal Democratic Party business interests and John Kerry at this very moment, for a better position to attack the heartland of America. ACSA has warned everyone of this phenomena, do not be fooled, this time the outcome of a Kerry negotiated elimination of America from the war on Terror is the downfall of America itself, his organized crime business associates are that steeped in their greed, even they are too blind stupid to see it.
 

Frankk

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RoperAB said:
Frankk said:
RoperAB said:
How would you like to be sent into combat thinking that your highest commander was a moron and the mission was unjust?
LOLs Im tired and im going to bed. Good Night.

I was and I wasn't demoralized it only provoked thought.

The American service men who flee your military and come up here always use this as an excuse for their behaviour.
Unlike the 70s we now deport them back to you.

You must be talking about deserters because we no longer have a draft. So you say they come up there and their excuse is they weren't demoralized. I doubt that, problem is you have been fed this "criticize Bush and it demoralizes the troops" line so often you just spit it back out
 

RoperAB

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Frankk said:
RoperAB said:
Frankk said:
I was and I wasn't demoralized it only provoked thought.

The American service men who flee your military and come up here always use this as an excuse for their behaviour.
Unlike the 70s we now deport them back to you.

You must be talking about deserters because we no longer have a draft. So you say they come up there and their excuse is they weren't demoralized. I doubt that, problem is you have been fed this "criticize Bush and it demoralizes the troops" line so often you just spit it back out
LOLs I know you dont have a draft,
Here is a link about what im talking about. These guys who have deserted sound like they believe Diss. propaganda.
Brandon Hughey and Jeremy Hinzman http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0414,solomon,52445,1.html
 

RoperAB

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Frank here is another one. There are all kinds of stories like this. Do a web search and you will see.
http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A161645

At the age of 19, Boise native Robin Long enlisted in the United States Army seeking a job with steady pay, medical benefits and a chance to go to college. Two years later, while stationed in a non-deployable unit at Fort Knox, Kentucky, Pfc. Long and a handful of troops from his unit received orders to go to Iraq. Long was given three weeks leave before his report date.

But instead of reporting for duty at Fort Carson, Colorado on April 10, 2005, Long went AWOL (absent without leave) and spent several months hiding out in a friend's basement in Boise. In June 2005, Pfc. Long hitchhiked to Canada. Once there, Long spent several months living as a vagrant out of soup kitchens and hitchhiking coast to coast.
Was it a personal decision or a political decision to go AWOL?

A little bit of both. It was mostly political because I really didn't feel like [the Bush administration] had proven that there was any reason for us to be over there. They hadn't proven there were weapons of mass destruction. It wasn't sanctioned by the United Nations. It also was a war of aggression. They [Iraq] were no threat to us. And after seeing Abu Ghraib and the killing of civilians ... you can look at anything on the Internet and see people have been tortured and civilians have been killed for no reason. Also, the people who were coming into my unit had just come from Iraq and they were telling me horrific stories. And another thing was that my superiors were telling me, "You're going to the desert to fight rag heads." It wasn't like I was going to Iraq to liberate the people. It was like I was going to the desert to kill "rag heads." They were trying to make people less human.

Do you still have family in Boise?

Yeah.

Do they support your decision?

Well, my mom and my stepdad support my decision, but the rest of my family ... I guess it's because they really don't understand.

What do you mean by the rest of your family?

They don't really talk to me. My brothers and sisters do, but my grandparents ... I haven't really been in contact with them. I don't know that they're mad at me so much as they are afraid to talk to me because of the government.
 

RoperAB

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Disagreeable said:
So what's your explanation for the two home grown terrorist groups that the Department of Justice claims to have arrested within the last month? How are you going to protect against them? We're not fighting them in Iraq or anywhere else. How about Timothy McVeigh, a home grown terrorist.

First off McVeigh was one of these nut jobs who believed that a vast left wing conspiracy has taken over your government. He was one of the "Black Helicopter" crowd who believed in shadow governments. McVeigh thought of himself as a patriot. Its just that he lost touch with reality from reading to much propaganda. Be careful that the same thing doesnt happen to you :wink:
About the Islamos
If you really think they are a danger then we could always do what has always been done before example with Japs and Germans in other wars. Put them in detainment camps.
You know propaganda is a powerful thing. The Germans lost WW1 because of it. They literally lost that war because of anti war traitors among them.
 

Disagreeable

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RoperAB said:
Disagreeable said:
So what's your explanation for the two home grown terrorist groups that the Department of Justice claims to have arrested within the last month? How are you going to protect against them? We're not fighting them in Iraq or anywhere else. How about Timothy McVeigh, a home grown terrorist.

First off McVeigh was one of these nut jobs who believed that a vast left wing conspiracy has taken over your government. He was one of the "Black Helicopter" crowd who believed in shadow governments. McVeigh thought of himself as a patriot. Its just that he lost touch with reality from reading to much propaganda. Be careful that the same thing doesnt happen to you :wink:
About the Islamos
If you really think they are a danger then we could always do what has always been done before example with Japs and Germans in other wars. Put them in detainment camps.
You know propaganda is a powerful thing. The Germans lost WW1 because of it. They literally lost that war because of anti war traitors among them.

The US government apologized and gave some financial reimbursement to Japanese wrongly interred in detainment camps during WWII. I don't think it would be allowed again in this country. George W. Bush has used GitMo like a detainment camp and the Supreme Court has said he's wrong to do so. As much as he'd like to claim he's the supreme ruler in time of a war that he started, the Court seems to disagree with him. At this point, we're still mostly a country of laws. I do believe the Republicans in Congress are starting to get some backbone and, hopefully, put their rubber stamp away. Bush has been very bad for this country.
 

Disagreeable

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Red Robin said:
[Whether Bush is president or not, if we have an ongoing mission to any place in the world , for any reason, I'll support the mission or be quiet. My town just layed another brave young man to rest Sat. Your seething hate and disgust for my country and my president makes me sick. I don't care what party you support, you make me sick to my stomach . My only comfort is to know how odd you are in society. I don't know anyone as full of vengence and anger as you when it comes to your anti-American ways. You support evil and hate anything connected to good, moral , traditional, American etc. I'd doubt you are a rancher at all. If you are , you wasn't raised one. No red blooded American that has been around stock and dirt and grease and work and family can develop into the angry person you are. Memanpa fought for your country...can't you show a little , just a little , respect for him and what he has done for you?

So are you telling me you supported Clinton's mission in Bosnia?

I love this country apparently more than you do. You don't even know anything about the candidates running for governor in your state! Do you vote at all? It's easier to join the pack of weenies on this board than tell the unpopular truth. I'm proud of everyone who has joined the board and refutes the lies and misrepresentations of the Bush Administation. That doesn't mean I always agree with them or they with me, but then I'm a democrat. We don't agree on everything. And that's ok.

Oh, I'm a rancher and was raised on this place. I'll have to look for the latest poll on how many people in Arkansas support Bush. It seems to me he was above 50% in only a couple of states and Arkansas wasn't one of them. So when you walk down the street, look at the faces of people you meet and know that more than half of them agree with me, not you.

I said that I'll give Memanpa the same respect the Republicans have given McCain, Kerry, Cleland, and Murtha. If he's willing to acknowledge these guys were not give the respect due their service to their country in Vietnam, I'll be willing to apologize. But you can't have it both ways. If Memanpa deserves respect for his service, so do those guys. He said, himself, that he disrespected Kerry's service! So when he gets out on this board and demands respect for his wounds, he'll get the same respect he's shown for others who served during the same war. No more - no less.
 

passin thru

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So when you walk down the street, look at the faces of people you meet and know that more than half of them agree with me, not you

What a vain remark that was. You might find people that disagree with Bush for the time being after being spoon fed liberal media hogwash. But you will not find many that will side with dis and her radical leftist views.





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"A majority of Americans may not agree with me " dis
 

Disagreeable

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passin thru said:
So when you walk down the street, look at the faces of people you meet and know that more than half of them agree with me, not you

What a vain remark that was. You might find people that disagree with Bush for the time being after being spoon fed liberal media hogwash.

ROTFLMAO! Bush's approval ratings are in the 30% range! The 30s%. He ran to Iraq and had his photo taken after the successful killing of Zarkawi and that give him a boost up to 40s, that that boost faded very quickly. Dream on, but Bush is an unpopular president. More people wish Bill Clinton was still president than George W. Bush! I know that must drive you nuts, but it's the truth. I've posted links to polls that show it.

But you will not find many that will side with dis and her radical leftist views.

A majority of Americans may not agree with me about getting our troops out now, but a majority does agree there needs to be some sort of timetable for withdrawal. That's an improvement over just a few months ago. So we're getting there. We'll bring our troops home. It just makes me sick that with all this dilly dallying around, more Americans are dying. Four more Marines died yesterday. What a waste. :cry:
 

passin thru

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More people wish Bill Clinton was still president

Get over it Slick Willy ain't prez











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"A majority of Americans may not agree with me " dis

"A pack of weenies doesn't bother me and that's what this pack is. Limp, wobbly weenies" dis

"You may not know a single person who agrees with me" dis
 

Red Robin

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Disagreeable said:
Red Robin said:
[Whether Bush is president or not, if we have an ongoing mission to any place in the world , for any reason, I'll support the mission or be quiet. My town just layed another brave young man to rest Sat. Your seething hate and disgust for my country and my president makes me sick. I don't care what party you support, you make me sick to my stomach . My only comfort is to know how odd you are in society. I don't know anyone as full of vengence and anger as you when it comes to your anti-American ways. You support evil and hate anything connected to good, moral , traditional, American etc. I'd doubt you are a rancher at all. If you are , you wasn't raised one. No red blooded American that has been around stock and dirt and grease and work and family can develop into the angry person you are. Memanpa fought for your country...can't you show a little , just a little , respect for him and what he has done for you?

So are you telling me you supported Clinton's mission in Bosnia?

I love this country apparently more than you do. You don't even know anything about the candidates running for governor in your state! Do you vote at all? It's easier to join the pack of weenies on this board than tell the unpopular truth. I'm proud of everyone who has joined the board and refutes the lies and misrepresentations of the Bush Administation. That doesn't mean I always agree with them or they with me, but then I'm a democrat. We don't agree on everything. And that's ok.

Oh, I'm a rancher and was raised on this place. I'll have to look for the latest poll on how many people in Arkansas support Bush. It seems to me he was above 50% in only a couple of states and Arkansas wasn't one of them. So when you walk down the street, look at the faces of people you meet and know that more than half of them agree with me, not you.

I said that I'll give Memanpa the same respect the Republicans have given McCain, Kerry, Cleland, and Murtha. If he's willing to acknowledge these guys were not give the respect due their service to their country in Vietnam, I'll be willing to apologize. But you can't have it both ways. If Memanpa deserves respect for his service, so do those guys. He said, himself, that he disrespected Kerry's service! So when he gets out on this board and demands respect for his wounds, he'll get the same respect he's shown for others who served during the same war. No more - no less.
Yawn.....
 

CattleRMe

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Soapweed said:
nonothing said:
All you and your pack do is attack If you have no answers

nonothing, I rather resent the fact that you consider all of us conservatives to have a "pack" mentality. We don't. We, as individuals, are by nature conservatives. We were each conservative before we ever met on Ranchers.Net, and we remain conservative now that we have met.

You will find that most people involved in agriculture are individualists and think for themselves. They have to be to survive. They also, for the most part, tend to be much more conservative than their citified countrerparts. It is just the nature of us. You will just have to get used to this if you plan to rub shoulders with the rancher crowd.

I think if everyone would look at it open minded they would see that when one person bites several others follow. Thus bringing about the "pack mentality".

Maybe take a second and take a look at this forum from the outside looking in.
 
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Anonymous

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nonothing said:
umm sorry X,but your not part of the pack
:shock: :( :cry:

KNOWnothing said:
.....you may get there one day?
:) Nothing that I'd like better.

KNOWABSOLUTELYnothing said:
Just even in your sarcastic witticism you are not nean enough...
Did you intend to type "mean" instead of "nean"? I'm going to assume that you did. We all make some typos from time to time, but gee whiz! Your crapola is really hard to comprehend sometimes. Have you ever thought about typing that mess up in a document first and then running the old spell check over it? I'll try to work on being meaner. Or neaner. Just for you. :lol:

KNOWABSOLUTELYnothingABOUTNOTHING said:
..Yet i see you do like to target one person.
That's all subject to change. You just watch and see. :D

KNOWABSOLUTELYnothingABOUTNOTHINGBUTTHATDOESN'TSTOPHIMFROMYAPPIN' said:
Oh and learn to pat others on the back when they hurt others .....The pack like that....
I'll work on that part, too. Next time that my friend PT catches you following him around stalking him with your head up his ass, and tells you what an idiot you are, I promise to try to be there to pat him on the back. Okie-dokie? :lol:
 

passin thru

Well-known member
X, you couldn't have said it any better.
I would like to nominate you as president of the pack, after all wouldn't you like to be Prez like ole slick willy
 

memanpa

Well-known member
Disagreeable said:
[I love this country apparently more than you do. You don't even know anything about the candidates running for governor in your state! Do you vote at all? It's easier to join the pack of weenies on this board than tell the unpopular truth. I'm proud of everyone who has joined the board and refutes the lies and misrepresentations of the Bush Administation. That doesn't mean I always agree with them or they with me, but then I'm a democrat. We don't agree on everything. And that's ok.

Oh, I'm a rancher and was raised on this place. I'll have to look for the latest poll on how many people in Arkansas support Bush. It seems to me he was above 50% in only a couple of states and Arkansas wasn't one of them. So when you walk down the street, look at the faces of people you meet and know that more than half of them agree with me, not you.

I said that I'll give Memanpa the same respect the Republicans have given McCain, Kerry, Cleland, and Murtha. If he's willing to acknowledge these guys were not give the respect due their service to their country in Vietnam, I'll be willing to apologize. But you can't have it both ways. If Memanpa deserves respect for his service, so do those guys. He said, himself, that he disrespected Kerry's service! So when he gets out on this board and demands respect for his wounds, he'll get the same respect he's shown for others who served during the same war. No more - no less.

DIS show me one post where i DEMANDED respect for my wounds!
(more DISinformation, truth bending)

KERRY no respect for whatsoever, not as a person or a soldier
MCAIN yes he has my respect as a fellow soldier

the others, the jury is still out!

you say you are a rancher, yet it seems you spend a lot of time looking for ways to spread DIS information, OLD news that appears to be new in your cut and paste agenda. rolling on the floor laughing your FA. checking the latest polls ar so you have more garbage to post, just WHERE do you get the TIME to be a RANCHER?
you claim to go to church yet the times you make your posts suggest otherwise.

but then you CLAIM a lot of things that are not true!

i feel good this morning because i garnered another tid bit about you. for my diary :D :D one that sent me to another website :D at this point it is only conjecture but proves to be promising in proving my thoughts about you :D and who you really are

keep up the great work i supplying me with the tools to do the job! every post you makes is helpful
 

nonothing

Well-known member
X said:
nonothing said:
umm sorry X,but your not part of the pack
:shock: :( :cry:

KNOWnothing said:
.....you may get there one day?
:) Nothing that I'd like better.

KNOWABSOLUTELYnothing said:
Just even in your sarcastic witticism you are not nean enough...
Did you intend to type "mean" instead of "nean"? I'm going to assume that you did. We all make some typos from time to time, but gee whiz! Your crapola is really hard to comprehend sometimes. Have you ever thought about typing that mess up in a document first and then running the old spell check over it? I'll try to work on being meaner. Or neaner. Just for you. :lol:

KNOWABSOLUTELYnothingABOUTNOTHING said:
..Yet i see you do like to target one person.
That's all subject to change. You just watch and see. :D

KNOWABSOLUTELYnothingABOUTNOTHINGBUTTHATDOESN'TSTOPHIMFROMYAPPIN' said:
Oh and learn to pat others on the back when they hurt others .....The pack like that....
I'll work on that part, too. Next time that my friend PT catches you following him around stalking him with your head up his ass, and tells you what an idiot you are, I promise to try to be there to pat him on the back. Okie-dokie? :lol:

I am not the worlds best spelaranndme gramar sux's badd...Are you sure that is right?That i stalk pt?LOL LOL.why do you not test your thoeries before opening such a big yap of crap....You choose the wrong side again.Do your home work first.....I guess your like a cult figure here or something,you sure have alot fooled...I guess you will just be another on an already long list of sycophants that keep comming my way with WRONG information...Have a good day X,your nothing,if not a waste of time...
 

memanpa

Well-known member
memanpa said:
Disagreeable said:
[I love this country apparently more than you do. You don't even know anything about the candidates running for governor in your state! Do you vote at all? It's easier to join the pack of weenies on this board than tell the unpopular truth. I'm proud of everyone who has joined the board and refutes the lies and misrepresentations of the Bush Administation. That doesn't mean I always agree with them or they with me, but then I'm a democrat. We don't agree on everything. And that's ok.

Oh, I'm a rancher and was raised on this place. I'll have to look for the latest poll on how many people in Arkansas support Bush. It seems to me he was above 50% in only a couple of states and Arkansas wasn't one of them. So when you walk down the street, look at the faces of people you meet and know that more than half of them agree with me, not you.



I said that I'll give Memanpa the same respect the Republicans have given McCain, Kerry, Cleland, and Murtha. If he's willing to acknowledge these guys were not give the respect due their service to their country in Vietnam, I'll be willing to apologize. But you can't have it both ways. If Memanpa deserves respect for his service, so do those guys. He said, himself, that he disrespected Kerry's service! So when he gets out on this board and demands respect for his wounds, he'll get the same respect he's shown for others who served during the same war. No more - no less.

DIS show me one post where i DEMANDED respect for my wounds!
(more DISinformation, truth bending)

KERRY no respect for whatsoever, not as a person or a soldier
MCAIN yes he has my respect as a fellow soldier

the others, the jury is still out!

you say you are a rancher, yet it seems you spend a lot of time looking for ways to spread DIS information, OLD news that appears to be new in your cut and paste agenda. rolling on the floor laughing your FA. checking the latest polls ar so you have more garbage to post, just WHERE do you get the TIME to be a RANCHER?
you claim to go to church yet the times you make your posts suggest otherwise.

but then you CLAIM a lot of things that are not true!

i feel good this morning because i garnered another tid bit about you. for my diary :D :D one that sent me to another website :D at this point it is only conjecture but proves to be promising in proving my thoughts about you :D and who you really are

keep up the great work i supplying me with the tools to do the job! every post you makes is helpful



DIS?
your not jumping on this?
or are you waiting on your lil buddy nono to try and clean up your mess again?

oh yea i forgot you are a liberal b.s.er one who can only spout BS
once again i ask you to respond to what i said, not wait for your LIFD groupies to help you out. you called me a coward! that is nice compared to what i think of you
 

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