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Remember the talk of Natural Born Citizen...

hypocritexposer

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Traveler said:
Dual loyalties? I don't see any loyalty to the US.

He swings both ways...it's his vision of what America should be, that he is loyal to. But, yes it seems he is more loyal to the religion of his fathers, and Countries he grew up in, than he is to the religion that America was founded on.

His mother wasn't a real American lover either. But, I'm sure he considered her a Patriot. In that sense, he is loyal to both parents' "Americanism"

It was a lose/lose and most of us knew that in 2007
 

Tom in TN

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I have never voted for a Democrat in my whole life, and I would never vote for a Democrat under any conditions. This crap about voting for the individual rather than the party is naivete at its highest. Poiliticians HAVE to follow the party line or they wouldn't get anywhere. The party apparatus would destroy them before they could do anything. The Democrat party has been eaten up with socialists since FDR, if not before.

On the other hand, I was truly pleased when the Democrats nominated Barack Obama in 2007/2008 because I was absolutely sure that he didn't have any chance of being elected to the presidency.

What a fool I was. Maybe I'm the naive one.

Tom in TN
 

TexasBred

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Tom in TN said:
I have never voted for a Democrat in my whole life, and I would never vote for a Democrat under any conditions. This crap about voting for the individual rather than the party is naivete at its highest. Poiliticians HAVE to follow the party line or they wouldn't get anywhere. The party apparatus would destroy them before they could do anything. The Democrat party has been eaten up with socialists since FDR, if not before.

On the other hand, I was truly pleased when the Democrats nominated Barack Obama in 2007/2008 because I was absolutely sure that he didn't have any chance of being elected to the presidency.

What a fool I was. Maybe I'm the naive one.

Tom in TN


Maybe you are..You've helped elect a lot of sorry SOB's especially when you get down on the state and local level on the voter ballot.
 

backhoeboogie

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Tom in TN said:
I have never voted for a Democrat in my whole life, and I would never vote for a Democrat under any conditions. This crap about voting for the individual rather than the party is naivete at its highest. Poiliticians HAVE to follow the party line or they wouldn't get anywhere. The party apparatus would destroy them before they could do anything. The Democrat party has been eaten up with socialists since FDR, if not before.

On the other hand, I was truly pleased when the Democrats nominated Barack Obama in 2007/2008 because I was absolutely sure that he didn't have any chance of being elected to the presidency.

What a fool I was. Maybe I'm the naive one.

Tom in TN

I have voted for Charlie Stenholm here in TX a few times. Back when. When he stood his ground and went against the Brady Bill, he was outside party lines. He crossed party lines several times.
 

Steve

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In case you are in doubt about Natural Born Citizenship requirements – don’t forget that in 2008 The US SENATE investigated Prez Candidate John McCain on HIS natural born status.Then Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton sat on that hearing and signed SR 511 attesting to their findings on McCain and the definition of Natural Born Citizen.

READ Senate Resolution 511 wherein they defined McCain to be a “natural born citizen.” They did this based upon the criteria that John McCain was found to have

1. Been born on American soil or a U.S. possession and
2. BOTH parents were American citizens at time of birth.

Bottom Line:
Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz – COULD NOT hold up to the standards of SR 511.

I think it is time for the Supreme Court to decide this issue..

my bet is they will rely on Obama's precedence to change thee intent of the Constitution..
 
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