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Republican senator says Snopes settled 'eligibility'

hypocritexposer

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Constitutional matters are now "Settled" by Internet Sites. We're in more trouble than I thought!

Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., has referred constituents raising concerns over President Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office to an online "fact" organization that relies for its answer partly on information from the Obama campaign.

The response from Kyl to an Arizona constituent was revealed just one day after a Florida WND reader alerted WND to the fact Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., had told him that Obama's eligibility was affirmed by voters who supported him in the Democratic primary and general elections in 2008.

The response from Kyl to a voter who asked about Obama's ability to meet the constitutional requirements for president said:

"Thank you for your recent e-mail. Senator Obama meets the constitutional requirements for presidential office. Rumors pertaining to his citizenship status have been circulating on the Internet, and this information has been debunked by Snopes.com, which investigates the truth behind Internet rumors."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90843
 

alice

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Isn't that how you get your information? Thru the internet?

Maybe this BS is becoming stale and tiresome to those that have more to do than sit at their computers and copy and paste on message boards.

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

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Maybe this BS is becoming stale and tiresome to those that have more to do than sit at their computers and copy and paste on message boards.

I'll try to find a new place to park my wheelchair.

Thanks for the advice.
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
Maybe this BS is becoming stale and tiresome to those that have more to do than sit at their computers and copy and paste on message boards.

I'll try to find a new place to park my wheelchair.

Thanks for the advice.

OK...you are welcome...

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

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Isn't that how you get your information? Thru the internet?

Reading actual items, that are documented into law etc. Is different than relying on Wikipedia, that is an accumulation of information submitted by anyone that does not disagree with their Liberal Biased views!

Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen, never will be.

And you or anybody else on here cannot prove he is.

The only way he is going to become a Natural Born Citizen, is to change the definition.
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
Isn't that how you get your information? Thru the internet?

Reading actual items, that are documented into law etc. Is different than relying on Wikipedia, that is an accumulation of information submitted by anyone that does not disagree with their Liberal Biased views!

Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen, never will be.

And you or anybody else on here cannot prove he is.

The only way he is going to become a Natural Born Citizen, is to change the definition.

Reading actual items, that are documented into law etc. Is different than relying on Wikipedia, that is an accumulation of information submitted by anyone that does not disagree with their Liberal Biased views!

I do not go to Wikipedia...Wikipedia has been proven to be unreliable.

As for the rest of what you've written...I am willing to wait until the Supreme Court of the United States makes a decision...on whether it should be considered...or whether there's any merit to it. Damned if I'm gonna sit back and second guess those that are steeped in the law!

Alice
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
Can you think of any reason why Obama would not just offer the information, without the expense of the court costs?

'Cause maybe he's decided that this nonsense has gone on long enough and the "other side" needs to put up or shut up....and maybe he knows that no matter what proof he brings, the "other side" will not accept it...so why bother...in fact, why not let all of this nonsense spell out how ludicrous the "other side" really is. That's what the hell I'd do if someone dared to question my natural born citizenship. And he is a natural born citizen.

Good GAWD man, did you not take civics in high school? Oh wait, there's bound to be a conspiracy involved in high school civics....altho I can't imagine what that conspiracy would have meant to my 1969 civics class.

Alice
 
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alice said:
hypocritexposer said:
Can you think of any reason why Obama would not just offer the information, without the expense of the court costs?

'Cause maybe he's decided that this nonsense has gone on long enough and the "other side" needs to put up or shut up....and maybe he knows that no matter what proof he brings, the "other side" will not accept it...so why bother...in fact, why not let all of this nonsense spell out how ludicrous the "other side" really is. That's what the hell I'd do if someone dared to question my natural born citizenship. And he is a natural born citizen.

Good GAWD man, did you not take civics in high school? Oh wait, there's bound to be a conspiracy involved in high school civics....altho I can't imagine what that conspiracy would have meant to my 1969 civics class.

Alice

Yep- Pope John XXXIII could resurrect- and swear on a stack of Bibles that he saw Obama being born in Hawaii to his American citizen mother- and these rightwingernuts would find a way to spin it and deny it so they could continue ranting their fear and divisiveness to try to bring down this country they all seem to hate so bad anymore...
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
alice said:
hypocritexposer said:
Can you think of any reason why Obama would not just offer the information, without the expense of the court costs?

'Cause maybe he's decided that this nonsense has gone on long enough and the "other side" needs to put up or shut up....and maybe he knows that no matter what proof he brings, the "other side" will not accept it...so why bother...in fact, why not let all of this nonsense spell out how ludicrous the "other side" really is. That's what the hell I'd do if someone dared to question my natural born citizenship. And he is a natural born citizen.

Good GAWD man, did you not take civics in high school? Oh wait, there's bound to be a conspiracy involved in high school civics....altho I can't imagine what that conspiracy would have meant to my 1969 civics class.

Alice

Yep- Pope John XXXIII could resurrect- and swear on a stack of Bibles that he saw Obama being born in Hawaii to his American citizen mother- and these rightwingernuts would find a way to spin it and deny it so they could continue ranting their fear and divisiveness to try to bring down this country they all seem to hate so bad anymore...

No need to resurrect the Pope just get Obama to put his hand on a bible and swear he will tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But I doubt you will get him to do that Oldtimer as if he was willing to do that he could have saved himself hundreds of thousands of dollars in Legal fees. :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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Yada, yada, yada. The FACTS remain that he is spending money to keep hidden what he claims has no reason to be kept hidden. THAT MAKES NO SENSE.
 

loomixguy

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Unseal his college records, or show his passport. Not very hard to do. They had fun with Bush 43 and Kerrey's grades. Bush had a higher GPA than the haughty French looking John F. Kerrey (who served in Viet Nam).

AT, you and the other 3 blind mice gotta admit that something don't smell right about all this. If you are .05% of the LEO/Investigator you imagine you were, you can only come to the conclusion that things don't add up. The college records will show what Boo Rock is afraid of, as would the true BC, not some trumped up counterfeit paper you can get in many corners of the world for $10 US. But for you to admit any of this you'd first have to clean off your excrement smeared glasses.
 

hypocritexposer

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It's okay Tam. They totally missed the point in this point.

You have a voting citizen, expressing concerns to his Senator.

The senator has no answer for the gentleman, so instead of checking it out, he refers him to the internet truth website.

Have we been dumbed down that much? Should the constitution not be referred to? Maybe he should have sent the guy to CNN, for verification.

Well duh, we'll just wait for the courts to decide! You mean the courts that say "We the People" don't have standing.

Wake up!
 

hypocritexposer

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In these motions, Obama's lawyers argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would "cause a defined and serious injury" to Obama and/or the DNC. They argued that revealing these documents raises a "legitimate privacy concern" and the above mentioned risk that "particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation." The source of that embarrassment was not specified.
 

hypocritexposer

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PART ONE explores the legal history and definition of “natural born citizen” under Article II of the US Constitution.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalties-pt-1/

PART TWO explores the factual basis for Barack Obama’s dual citizenship, and concludes that he has been a citizen of at least two countries, and therefore is ineligible to be President.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalties-pt-2/
 

hypocritexposer

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Alice, if you are willing to let the Constitution be dumbed down, you will find out that we will all be in a desperate spot.

Be honest with yourself, read the articles, I have provided links to, and then ask yourself the question again.

Can you Define Natural Born Citizen?
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
Alice, if you are willing to let the Constitution be dumbed down, you will find out that we will all be in a desperate spot.

Be honest with yourself, read the articles, I have provided links to, and then ask yourself the question again.

Can you Define Natural Born Citizen?

Not to your satisfaction...nor will I waste another minute trying to...

Alice
 

Sandhusker

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Alice, you're fooling no one, you have no definition. Doesn't that tell you something about your position when you can't answer a simple question that would be key to defending your stand? Good grief, if you can't rationalize your opinion, how the heck did you formulate it?
 
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