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Republicans Get Blame For Bailout Failure...BUT!!!!!!

Mike

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Senate Democrats Had Enough Republican Votes to Pass the Bailout
JAWA Report ^ | December 12, 2008 03:46 PM | Stable Hand


The UAW complained the GOP halted the bailout plan. One little known fact is Democrats had enough Republicans on their side to pass the bailout.


It didn't pass because the entire Democartic caucus didn't vote.

Eight Democrats bailed on the bailout (Reid, it should be noted, voted against it for procedural reasons, in order to bring it up for a vote again).

Four Democrats voted 'nay': Baucus, Tester, Lincoln, and Reid.


Four Democrats did not vote: Biden, Kennedy, Kerry, and Wyden.
 

kolanuraven

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This is the chance for Rep's to really leave a HUGE mess in their wake and then that way they can walk away and leave the Dem' and Obama to try to fix it.


It's a last ' noogie' if you like.



Bush said he'd leave the war for the next President, and he's been true to his word on that fact........and this mess with the economy/lack of oversight/lack of action is the last " hurrah" for the remainder of the Rep's.
 

kolanuraven

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jigs said:
you don't think the dems in the congress had a thing to do with it???

you really are an ignorant fool.


Maybe so....but at least I'm not an overweight, under achieving, dirt farmer in Kansas who is mad at the world and trigger happy!!!


Edit: I forgot to add jealous bigot!!
 
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Anonymous

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kolanuraven said:
Bush said he'd leave the war for the next President, and he's been true to his word on that fact........and this mess with the economy/lack of oversight/lack of action is the last " hurrah" for the remainder of the Rep's.

Lou Dobbs had the best comment tonight--"You don't see Harvard Business School running any recruiting/solicitation ads claiming/admitting George W is a former graduate..." :???: :wink: :lol: :p
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
kolanuraven said:
Bush said he'd leave the war for the next President, and he's been true to his word on that fact........and this mess with the economy/lack of oversight/lack of action is the last " hurrah" for the remainder of the Rep's.

Lou Dobbs had the best comment tonight--"You don't see Harvard Business School running any recruiting/solicitation ads claiming/admitting George W is a former graduate..." :???: :wink: :lol: :p

Got to wonder if Harvard will have ads about admitting Obama if the truth ever starts coming out about what he is tried up in. :???:
 
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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
kolanuraven said:
Bush said he'd leave the war for the next President, and he's been true to his word on that fact........and this mess with the economy/lack of oversight/lack of action is the last " hurrah" for the remainder of the Rep's.

Lou Dobbs had the best comment tonight--"You don't see Harvard Business School running any recruiting/solicitation ads claiming/admitting George W is a former graduate..." :???: :wink: :lol: :p

Got to wonder if Harvard will have ads about admitting Obama if the truth ever starts coming out about what he is tried up in. :???:

It'd take a lot to ever come close to the incompetence and corruption of GW....

What you doing on her Tammy-- snowed in with the Big Muddy and getting bored :???:
 

Sandhusker

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OT, "It'd take a lot to ever come close to the incompetence and corruption of GW.... "

Chairman Maobama has already got him beat on arrogance, disdain for the Constitution, and criminal acquaintances. He's also surpassed Hillary on lying, which is quite an accomplishment in itself. You ought to be very proud of your leader - he's a dandy.
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Lou Dobbs had the best comment tonight--"You don't see Harvard Business School running any recruiting/solicitation ads claiming/admitting George W is a former graduate..." :???: :wink: :lol: :p

Got to wonder if Harvard will have ads about admitting Obama if the truth ever starts coming out about what he is tried up in. :???:

It'd take a lot to ever come close to the incompetence and corruption of GW....

What you doing on her Tammy-- snowed in with the Big Muddy and getting bored :???:

I've been doing a lot of reading in the past few weeks about the US mess and I would like to know why you as a US law man are backing a guy that has defied the US citizen the proof they have asked, no demanded through the US court system, for that proves he is qualified to sit in the highest seat in the US. Oldtimer It's time to step up and protect the US Constitution even if it means dethrowning your King. :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Got to wonder if Harvard will have ads about admitting Obama if the truth ever starts coming out about what he is tried up in. :???:

It'd take a lot to ever come close to the incompetence and corruption of GW....

What you doing on her Tammy-- snowed in with the Big Muddy and getting bored :???:

I've been doing a lot of reading in the past few weeks about the US mess and I would like to know why you as a US law man are backing a guy that has defied the US citizen the proof they have asked, no demanded through the US court system, for that proves he is qualified to sit in the highest seat in the US. Oldtimer It's time to step up and protect the US Constitution even if it means dethrowning your King. :roll:

Show me the Court Order signed by the Judge requiring it :???: The courts have thrown out all the cases or recognized the Hawaiian keeper of records-and their certified record of birth--- which is all that really is required.... That has been recognized and has precedent as fulfilling the governments requirement of proof on numerous previous occasions over a long period of history....

Why is it only some racists and wingnuts raising the question :???: Why is not the Republican Party or a group of Congressmen or officials (like Attorney General)- or the President who is now sitting and sworn to uphold the Constitution raising the question :???:
Why- because they know there is no issue....
 

Juan

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kolanuraven said:
jigs said:
you don't think the dems in the congress had a thing to do with it???

you really are an ignorant fool.


Maybe so....but at least I'm not an overweight, under achieving, dirt farmer in Kansas who is mad at the world and trigger happy!!!


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dit: I forgot to add jealous bigot!!

Wow --------I quess I've been away too long! When did the "love afair' end? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Richard Doolittle

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Juan said:
kolanuraven said:
jigs said:
you don't think the dems in the congress had a thing to do with it???

you really are an ignorant fool.


Maybe so....but at least I'm not an overweight, under achieving, dirt farmer in Kansas who is mad at the world and trigger happy!!!


E
dit: I forgot to add jealous bigot!!

Wow --------I quess I've been away too long! When did the "love afair' end? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

They do sound like ex's don't they????????
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
It'd take a lot to ever come close to the incompetence and corruption of GW....

What you doing on her Tammy-- snowed in with the Big Muddy and getting bored :???:

I've been doing a lot of reading in the past few weeks about the US mess and I would like to know why you as a US law man are backing a guy that has defied the US citizen the proof they have asked, no demanded through the US court system, for that proves he is qualified to sit in the highest seat in the US. Oldtimer It's time to step up and protect the US Constitution even if it means dethrowning your King. :roll:

Show me the Court Order signed by the Judge requiring it :???: The courts have thrown out all the cases or recognized the Hawaiian keeper of records-and their certified record of birth--- which is all that really is required.... That has been recognized and has precedent as fulfilling the governments requirement of proof on numerous previous occasions over a long period of history....

Why is it only some racists and wingnuts raising the question :???: Why is not the Republican Party or a group of Congressmen or officials (like Attorney General)- or the President who is now sitting and sworn to uphold the Constitution raising the question :???:
Why- because they know there is no issue....


Berg claimed that by failing to respond Obama has legally "admitted" to the lawsuit's accusations, including the charge that the Democratic candidate was born in Mombosa, Kenya.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick dismissed Berg's argument on Oct, 24, ruling that he lacked standing to bring the case. He said Berg's allegations were "too vague and too attenuated."

"This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution," Berg told Jeff Schreiber of America's Right blog. "If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be president of the United States – the commander in chief, the most powerful person in the world – then who does?"

Berg filed a writ of certiorari in the U.S. Supreme Court on Oct.30, to force Obama to produce his birth certificate. Justice David Souter rejected an emergency appeal on Nov. 3, for the court to halt the tabulation of the 2008 presidential election results until Obama documented his eligibility to run for office. However, Souter set a schedule for a response from Obama, the DNC and all co-defendants on or before Dec. 1.

"I look forward to receiving Defendant Obama's response to the Writ and am hopeful the U.S. Supreme Court will review Berg v. Obama," Berg wrote in a Nov. 7 statement. "I believe Mr. Obama is not a consitutionally-qualified natural-born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of the President of the United States."

And from what I understand Dec 1 came and went. So ask yourself Oldtimer why is Obama ignoring requests for proof and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars so nobody gets a chance to see what he is hiding? Why are his College records sealed? And ask yourself if you were a Senator (heaven forbid :roll: ) but if you were and the Montana Governor had the job of replacing you can you honestly say you would not be in contact with him to put in a recommendation to who will replace you?
 

alice

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Tam said:
why is Obama ignoring requests for proof and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars so nobody gets a chance to see what he is hiding?

Is Obama actually spending money to conceal anything? I've read nothing to that effect. I'd like to see something that shows he's spending this money on attorneys to hide anything.

Alice
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
It'd take a lot to ever come close to the incompetence and corruption of GW....

What you doing on her Tammy-- snowed in with the Big Muddy and getting bored :???:

I've been doing a lot of reading in the past few weeks about the US mess and I would like to know why you as a US law man are backing a guy that has defied the US citizen the proof they have asked, no demanded through the US court system, for that proves he is qualified to sit in the highest seat in the US. Oldtimer It's time to step up and protect the US Constitution even if it means dethrowning your King. :roll:

Show me the Court Order signed by the Judge requiring it :???: The courts have thrown out all the cases or recognized the Hawaiian keeper of records-and their certified record of birth--- which is all that really is required.... That has been recognized and has precedent as fulfilling the governments requirement of proof on numerous previous occasions over a long period of history....

Why is it only some racists and wingnuts raising the question :???: Why is not the Republican Party or a group of Congressmen or officials (like Attorney General)- or the President who is now sitting and sworn to uphold the Constitution raising the question :???:
Why- because they know there is no issue....

CHANGING OF THE GUARD
'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birth location
Alan Keyes lawsuit warns America may see 'usurper' in Oval Office

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Posted: November 14, 2008
8:40 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution. -------



Just this week, WND has reported on more than half a dozen other legal challenges have been filed in federal and state courts demanding Obama's decertification from ballots or seeking to halt elector meetings, claiming he has failed to prove his U.S. citizenship status.

Among the states where cases are being tracked are Ohio, Connecticut, Washington, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Hawaii, and there were reports of other cases being developed in Utah, Wyoming, Florida, New York, North Carolina, Texas, California and Virginia.

Doesn't look like all the cases have been dismissed Oldtimer :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Why respond when its already been ruled several times over in Federal Court that the person filing the action has no standing....For the cost of the filing fee and attorneys fee- anybody can sue anybody for almost anything...It doesn't mean they have an actual case....

Why are not those that do have standing- and are sworn to protect and uphold the Constitution like President Bush and the highest law enforcement official of the country- the US Attorney General- filing any actions if there truly is an issue :???: Do you think AG Mukasey (a former Federal Judge) would violate his oath of office if there was actually something there :???:

Must be a big right wing/left wing combined conspiracy--EH :???:

Actually its just a way the rightwingnut publicists and hate spewer talk folks- like Rush, Ann, and Corsi can stir folks up and keep the millions $ rolling into their salaries and book sales....
 

Sandhusker

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Obama could just spend the $12 for the cert instead of spending thousands on attorneys to keep it hidden. He already made the effort to bring something, although he lied about what it actually was.....

Are these the actions of an innocent man?
 
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Sandhusker said:
Obama could just spend the $12 for the cert instead of spending thousands on attorneys to keep it hidden. He already made the effort to bring something, although he lied about what it actually was.....

Are these the actions of an innocent man?

Why has your beloved President Bush or the countries highest law enforcement official- the Attorney General not questioned it :???: Explain that one to me.....

They know the documentation and info he's already brought forward have been accepted by the government for proof for years- and that it was certified by the States sworn "keeper of the records"- that have also historically been accepted by the courts as verification, since we have no "national standard" for recordings-- or no National ID as of yet...
 

Tam

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alice said:
Tam said:
why is Obama ignoring requests for proof and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars so nobody gets a chance to see what he is hiding?

Is Obama actually spending money to conceal anything? I've read nothing to that effect. I'd like to see something that shows he's spending this money on attorneys to hide anything.

Alice

Nothing you will believe that is. Ask yourself why spend a dime ? Why hasn't he just taken his Long form birth certificate into the Supreme court and provided it to stop the stories? Why post a certificate that proves nothing on a questionable website to try convince voters he is who he wants everyone to believe he is? If he is a citizen and can prove it why hasn't he filed a slander suit against every person (at least Berg) that is claiming he is not a citizen, his presidency is at stake? Why hasn't Obama made his Grandmother and half brother and sister that claimed he was born in Kenya contact the MSM and issue a correction? Whether he is or isn't a natural born citizen should be important to every US citizen that cares at all about the future of the US Constitution. :roll:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Why respond when its already been ruled several times over in Federal Court that the person filing the action has no standing....For the cost of the filing fee and attorneys fee- anybody can sue anybody for almost anything...It doesn't mean they have an actual case....

Why are not those that do have standing- and are sworn to protect and uphold the Constitution like President Bush and the highest law enforcement official of the country- the US Attorney General- filing any actions if there truly is an issue :???: Do you think AG Mukasey (a former Federal Judge) would violate his oath of office if there was actually something there :???:

Must be a big right wing/left wing combined conspiracy--EH :???:

Actually its just a way the rightwingnut publicists and hate spewer talk folks- like Rush, Ann, and Corsi can stir folks up and keep the millions $ rolling into their salaries and book sales....

To me it is a sad state of affairs when the courts can dismiss a lawsuit of this importance on the grounds that the person has no standings. It would seem to me that any person that lives in the US should have the right to know whether the person that is sitting in the Presidents seat is qualified to be there under the law of the land.
 
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