Disagreeable
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Red Robin said:Dishonest? In context could his meaning of the term "old" not mean antiquated? Of course it could and of course you knew that...dishonest indeed. Secondly you can never invest the money the government takes from you to put in social secutity. Of course you knew that. Dishonest indeed. Perhaps that is what "Dis" stands for .Disagreeable said:You're so dishonest. Bush didn't propose a "voluntary" departure from Social Security. And it's not the "old"; it's the only Social Security plan we've ever had. Anyone in this country can open up an IRA with their own money. You can leave it to your kids if you want. You can invest it in lots of different things. I've had one ever since Congress passed the law. It did very well during the Clinton years, by the way. And with the cost of gasoline and other things skyrocketing, I'm thinking about taking some of the interest out. Don't whine and cry and suggest that you're not allowed to invest for your own retirement. You can do that however you want. Warning, though: Enron.
The term "old" could mean a lot of things. Like how "old" your defense of the Bush Administation is getting.
I never said you could invest Social Security withholdings however you wanted. But obviously the American people didn't trust the Bush plan because it withered on the vine. I think most of them saw that he was selling us out to his croneys on Wall Street. Social Security is in trouble. With the political capital Bush though he had, he might have actually improved the program. But, instead, he chose to try to kill it. Didn't work. I honestly think that's the point where many people started looking at him differently and questioning whether he had their best interests or the best interests of big business at heart.