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Repubs Need New Platform

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Anonymous

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Its looking like the Republicans maybe should be looking a lot less at running on the ethics and moral values party platform this year- either that or find some that will start walking the talk :wink: :lol: Cunningham- Ney- Foley-Vitter-Craig- now Stevens :???:
The wires are reporting this afternoon that the FBI has Senator Stevens on tape talking about the bribes......

Stevens is known as the "King of Pork" having been the father of the "Bridge to Nowhere" that cost taxpayers $320 milliion...
:shock:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/wm889.cfm

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September 18, 2007
Alaska Sen. Stevens Bribed With Home Remodel

The longest serving Republican in the U.S. Senate took bribes in the form of a major home remodeling, according to the federal court testimony of an oil company chairman guilty of showering several lawmakers with nearly half a million dollars of “illegal benefits.”

Alaska Senator Ted Stevens has been implicated in the widespread corruption scheme for months but the court testimony--in the corruption trail of state House Speaker Pete Kott--marks the most damaging evidence against the veteran legislator who is also the state’s most powerful political figure.

As chairman of the major oil services company VECO, Bill Allen admitted that he committed extortion, conspiracy and bribery of legislators for giving various politicians and their families more than $400,000 worth of bribes. Among them was doubling the size of the senator’s Alaska home by paying for the labor and materials.

Allen testified that VECO employees performed the work to add a second story to the Stevens residence near Anchorage and the elaborate project took about half a year. A few months ago federal agents raided the Stevens home to gather evidence and take photos and video of the lavish compound.

Although Stevens is the most recognized figure in the statewide corruption scandal, at least six other Alaska lawmakers are under investigation for taking bribes from VECO, which has reaped tens of millions of dollars in federal contracts over the years.

Besides Kott, who is being tried this week, the probe has targeted Stevens’ son, State Senator Ben Stevens, as well as two other state senators (John Cowdery of Anchorage and Donny Olson of Nome) and two state representatives (Vic Kohring of Wasilla and Bruce Weyhrauch of Juneau).

The 83-year-old Stevens has represented Alaska in Washington since 1968 and is up for reelection next year. The way things are going, it seems that perhaps a prison sentence may prevent him from campaigning.

http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/09/alaska_sen_stevens_bribed_with.html


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Judicial Watch, Inc., a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.  Through its educational endeavors, Judicial Watch advocates high standards of ethics and morality in our nation’s public life and seeks to ensure that political and judicial officials do not abuse the powers entrusted to them by the American people.   Judicial Watch fulfills its educational mission through litigation, investigations and public outreach.
 

Brad S

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First of all, Republicans run on ideals like protect freedom. Second, when an INDIVIDUAL (as in not the party) is guilty of misconduct, Republians make him stand accountable. See Dole/Baker demand a resignation from Nixon for the good of the country while the Democrats excuse and circle the wagons despite damage to the country. See Bill Klinton.

Who wants to be the A$$ clown that equates Craig to Barney Frank. Yes I'll play the whose scandal is worse, but after the dust is settled we're also going to play what was each partie's response to an individual's misconduct.

YOU CAN ONLY SMEAR THE PARTY WHEN THEY ENGAGE IN EXCUSE OR COVERUP FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.
 
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Brad S said:
First of all, Republicans run on ideals like protect freedom. Second, when an INDIVIDUAL (as in not the party) is guilty of misconduct, Republians make him stand accountable. See Dole/Baker demand a resignation from Nixon for the good of the country while the Democrats excuse and circle the wagons despite damage to the country. See Bill Klinton.

Who wants to be the A$$ clown that equates Craig to Barney Frank. Yes I'll play the whose scandal is worse, but after the dust is settled we're also going to play what was each partie's response to an individual's misconduct.

YOU CAN ONLY SMEAR THE PARTY WHEN THEY ENGAGE IN EXCUSE OR COVERUP FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.

How about Senator Vitter...He ran on a policy of
Vitter believes strongly that marriage is a sacred vow between a man and a woman.
Must be that he belives it is a "sacred vow" between a man and a woman and a madam and a few dozen hookers.... :wink: :lol:
And the hypocrisy is that the Repubs (even those that wanted to impeach Clinton for a non crime sex act) don't dare to chastise him-because if he quit, there is a Democrat Governor that could/probably would appoint a Democrat...So much for ethics- politics comes first... :roll:

Brad-- while both parties are mired in corruption and ethics problems--I always thought of the Republican party as the one with the higher ethics and more law and order on corruption--but the last 10 years this new batch of neocons seem to think everything and anything is alright as long as they and/or their corporate benefactors are benefitting from it....And its killed the party....

Apparently many others see it my way as the surveys now show that the voters give the Democrats the high road 39% to 29% on who to trust on the issue of ethics and corruption- an issue the Repubs used to have the high road on...The sad part is 32% trust neither or don't know who to trust... :(

And 74% of people surveyed say now that government corruption and ethics is now the number one issue of this election...
 
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Anonymous

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Looks like Romney agrees with me....This is the best thing I've seen him say in the whole campaign-but its sad when your own party has sunk so low and become so unpopular that the candidates start attacking it.... :shock: Must be taking lessons from Newt... :wink: :lol: :lol:

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Romney Scolds GOP in Ad, Open Letter

Friday, September 21, 2007 8:26 PM

WASHINGTON -- Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is scolding his party in a nationally broadcast ad Sunday and in an open letter to party leaders that asserts that the blame for Washington's dysfunction does not rest just with Democrats.


The 30-second ad, the same one he began running this week in New Hampshire, will air during NBC's Meet the Press, between appearances by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton and former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, whose new book, "The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World," blames the Bush administration for runaway spending.


The media push casts Romney as an agent of change, a recognition that even Republicans have grown weary of their government.


In the ad and in the letter, Romney wags his finger at the party, portraying Washington Republicans as riddled by scandal and profligate spending. Without naming them, he also distinguishes himself from President Bush and two of his main rivals on the subject of immigration.


"Washington is busy pointing fingers, assigning blame, and spending too much money. There is too much talk and too little action," he writes in his letter, which will appear in full page ads Monday in New Hampshire's Manchester Union-Leader and the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call.


"The blame, we must admit, does not belong to just one party. If we're going to change Washington, Republicans have to put our own house in order."


The ad was also scheduled to become part of Romney's regular ad rotation in Iowa on Saturday.


"We can't be like Democrats _ a party of big spending," he says in the ad and in his letter. "We can't pretend our borders are secure from illegal immigration. We can't have ethical standards that are a punch line for Jay Leno."
 
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Goodpasture said:
Brad S said:
First of all, Republicans run on ideals like protect freedom.
How does the Patriot act do that?

The really scarey thing to me is that in about 15 months Hillary, Pelosi, and Reid will have total control of all these powers given by and rights taken away by this Patriot Act..... :roll: :shock: :(
 
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Oldtimer said:
The really scarey thing to me is that in about 15 months Hillary, Pelosi, and Reid will have total control of all these powers given by and rights taken away by this Patriot Act..... :roll: :shock: :(

You could be right. Republicans are leaving the party in droves and mostly registering as Independents. Independents seem to be leaning toward Democrats for the next election. Vowing to veto a health insurance program for poor kids while freely spending billions in Iraq is not going to win many converts to the Republican party.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070923/ap_on_el_ge/irked_independents
 

Goodpasture

Well-known member
Moderates of both sides of the aisle are scared of another term similar to the last two terms. Moderates from both sides of the aisle want a healthy economy. Moderates from both sides of the aisle want a permanent, long lasting resolution to illegal immigration. Moderates from both sides of the aisle want safe toys for their kids. Moderates from both sides of the aisle want a solid, achievable energy policy and plan for the future.

What I find interesting, is that if this were Canada, Bush would have had a non-confidence vote, been kicked out of office, and Nancy Pelosi would be President today.
 

jigs

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damn, I gotta stand here and say I think Brad is right. he hit the nail on the head. dems defend thier own for the sake of the party, Republicans will condemn, for the good of the nation.

granted all the guys in DC are probably guilty of something, and I hold the breaking of marriage vows as one of the greatest crimes, but these guys lining thier pockets with MY money, really pisses me off.

I doubt there has been a bill brought forth for the past 25 yeaers that was not in one way or another rolled up with pork or a kickback to some individual interest.


how can a KU guy like Brad, have such a correct view of this.... really confuses me!
 

Sandhusker

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Jigs, "how can a KU guy like Brad, have such a correct view of this.... really confuses me!"

It's because he live in Nebraska now. He's getting purged. It's the same concept as putting the bullhead in clean water for a couple weeks to clean out the mud taste before you eat it.
 
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Anonymous

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First it was Newt-then Romney- and now Newt again saying that GW and his administration have completely lost touch with the American people....I agree....
Newt on Sept 17,2007


SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: All right, before I get to that, all the buzz, everybody that I've spoken to goes to your comments over the weekend. Quote: "...and so you just look at the dynamics and you have to say the odds are probably 80-20 that the Democratic candidate" — which you say is going to be Hillary —"will win in 2008."

Do you know how many people you have upset with that statement?

NEWT GINGRICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I hope I've upset 'em. I mean, if they think we're going to run a 2004-style anti-Clinton campaign and win, they're just wrong.

I mean, I'm trying to awaken the Republican base and awaken conservatives and get people to understand that, if we don't stand for a very clean break with the mess in Katrina, with the mess at the border, with the mess in our visa system and if we don't stand for a much better way of doing business than pork-barrel spending in Congress, we're not going to win next year.

And so we need to have our candidates be decisively in favor of fundamental change in Washington or we're going to lose. I can't — I can't say it any plainer than that.

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Before we get to that, Mr. Speaker — and by the way, just to go back to your first comment to Sean, bringing up Katrina and all the messes, messes being your word. Are you saying Republicans can't run on George Bush's record and win?

GINGRICH: Yes. I am saying Republicans can't run on George Bush's record.

COLMES: So, that would mean this is a failed presidency?

GINGRICH: It means it's a presidency which has not achieved the things the American people want. And that's why the poll numbers are where they are.

And you can have great respect for the president. You can have great sympathy for what he's tried to do. You can have a deep sense that he believes deeply in what he's trying to accomplish in the middle East, but the objective fact is that we have not controlled spending, we have not controlled the border, we have not solved the problems in New Orleans. We do not have a government in Washington that runs effectively, and therefore, we need real change.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297257,00.html
 
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