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Rick Fox Speaks Out on Cattle Business

TimH

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Other packers can only bid on your cattle when the border is open?

Yup. Other "major" packers, at least.
So how about it , Buddy........stop supporting R-calf and put the screws to Tyson and Cargill. :D
 
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Anonymous

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Conman: "People should work within their organizations to change them before going outside. From what I hear on this board, the rcalf (or rancher voice) of the NCBA tried to do just that. They were squashed in their attempt by the top down maneuvers of the packers in the NCBA. Many ranchers saw this is what happened and formed rcalf so that ranchers's and cattlemen in the US would still have a voice."

Explain how the packers influence decisions that are made within the NCBA.

That is total bullsh*t!

Watch the old Democrat "cut and run" manuever with that question ...........


Conman: "Now there are MANY functions the NCBA does on certain levels that are in the interests of ranchers, and with those I have no quarrel. I do have a quarrel with the packer faction taking over the NCBA and pushing their own agenda in the NCBA and in the sold out USDA."

BE SPECIFIC or everyone will see that you're nothing more than an empty headed follower who repeats the R-CALF "mantra" with nothing to support it.

Explain how the packer faction is taking over the NCBA.


The truth is, what is really happening is that the intelligent folks in the NCBA are not joining the R-CALF packer blamers in their lies about the packing industry which were proven to be nothing more than empty allegations in Pickett vs. IBP.


Conman: "The committee chairs and other members of Congress have sold out the USDA to the packers over the ranchers or producers for campaign contributions just as the article I posted over MCOOL campaign showed."

More empty rhetoric by the "LYING KING" unsupported by anything of factual basis.


Conman: "If you are smart enough to see the difference between the two groups and don't want to blindly support packers with the major decisions of the industry, you probably should join rcalf so you don't get grouped in with a group of people (packers) who will cheat you for their own self interests in an attempt to dominate the industry."

The difference between the two groups is one bases it's decisions on factual information (NCBA) and the other bases it's decisions on lies and a need to blame someone else for their own shortcomings (R-CULT).


Conman: "Nemrancher, most ranchers don't like the quarrel and I can see their point. It is still no excuse not to see the facts."

What the hell would you know about facts? You are the biggest liar on this forum. Listening to industry hypocrites like you talk about facts makes me want to puke. You've never supported a position you've held with factual information yet. Quit abusing the word.

Why any of you even listen to this @%^*[email protected] idiot is beyond me.



~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
TimH said:
Sandhusker said:
Other packers can only bid on your cattle when the border is open?

Yup. Other "major" packers, at least.
So how about it , Buddy........stop supporting R-calf and put the screws to Tyson and Cargill. :D

Yup? Is there a law up there that says only Tyson and Cargill can buy cattle if the border is closed?

You don't have any other "major" packers.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Conman: "People should work within their organizations to change them before going outside. From what I hear on this board, the rcalf (or rancher voice) of the NCBA tried to do just that. They were squashed in their attempt by the top down maneuvers of the packers in the NCBA. Many ranchers saw this is what happened and formed rcalf so that ranchers's and cattlemen in the US would still have a voice."

Explain how the packers influence decisions that are made within the NCBA.

That is total bullsh*t!

Watch the old Democrat "cut and run" manuever with that question ...........


Conman: "Now there are MANY functions the NCBA does on certain levels that are in the interests of ranchers, and with those I have no quarrel. I do have a quarrel with the packer faction taking over the NCBA and pushing their own agenda in the NCBA and in the sold out USDA."

BE SPECIFIC or everyone will see that you're nothing more than an empty headed follower who repeats the R-CALF "mantra" with nothing to support it.

Explain how the packer faction is taking over the NCBA.


The truth is, what is really happening is that the intelligent folks in the NCBA are not joining the R-CALF packer blamers in their lies about the packing industry which were proven to be nothing more than empty allegations in Pickett vs. IBP.


Conman: "The committee chairs and other members of Congress have sold out the USDA to the packers over the ranchers or producers for campaign contributions just as the article I posted over MCOOL campaign showed."

More empty rhetoric by the "LYING KING" unsupported by anything of factual basis.


Conman: "If you are smart enough to see the difference between the two groups and don't want to blindly support packers with the major decisions of the industry, you probably should join rcalf so you don't get grouped in with a group of people (packers) who will cheat you for their own self interests in an attempt to dominate the industry."

The difference between the two groups is one bases it's decisions on factual information (NCBA) and the other bases it's decisions on lies and a need to blame someone else for their own shortcomings (R-CULT).


Conman: "Nemrancher, most ranchers don't like the quarrel and I can see their point. It is still no excuse not to see the facts."

What the hell would you know about facts? You are the biggest liar on this forum. Listening to industry hypocrites like you talk about facts makes me want to puke. You've never supported a position you've held with factual information yet. Quit abusing the word.

Why any of you even listen to this @%^*[email protected] idiot is beyond me.



~SH~

Tuition is due before teaching commences, sh. Puking is allowed in the bathrooms only.
 

TimH

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
TimH said:
Sandhusker said:
Other packers can only bid on your cattle when the border is open?

Yup. Other "major" packers, at least.
So how about it , Buddy........stop supporting R-calf and put the screws to Tyson and Cargill. :D

Yup? Is there a law up there that says only Tyson and Cargill can buy cattle if the border is closed?

You don't have any other "major" packers.

Of course not. We have "been asleep" and allowed the "multinationals to completely take over and dominate" our industry.
I thought you knew that. :D :D :D :D
How about it?? Wanna screw Tyson and Cargill around or not??? :D
 
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Anonymous

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Just as I expected. Same-O "duck and run" maneuver from the "Lying King". He couldn't back his views if his empty life depended on it. As long as Conman can make cheap statements and tell outright lies without ever having to back them with supporting facts, he'll continue to find a home on the internet.

What a loser!


~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Just as I expected. Same-O "duck and run" maneuver from the "Lying King". He couldn't back his views if his empty life depended on it. As long as Conman can make cheap statements and tell outright lies without ever having to back them with supporting facts, he'll continue to find a home on the internet.

What a loser!


~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Just as I expected. Same-O "duck and run" maneuver from the "Lying King". He couldn't back his views if his empty life depended on it. As long as Conman can make cheap statements and tell outright lies without ever having to back them with supporting facts, he'll continue to find a home on the internet.

What a loser!


~SH~

I'll answer you only when I want until you act like an adult.

What is the matter, you and the circus chicken got run out of the circus?

Did momma call?
 
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Anonymous

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Wrong "Lying King"!

R-CALF got a hundred dollar donation because I bet that Tyson's Boise and Pasco plants lost more money than Tyson's Lakeside plant made in calendar year 2004. I was wrong about calendar year 2004 only. I PROVED MYSELF WRONG ABOUT CALENDAR YEAR 2004 (my original statement was correct regarding the entire period of time when the Canadian border was closed). I ADMITTED BEING WRONG AND PAID UP ON MY OWN ACCORD as anyone with integrity would do. None of you R-CULT followers proved me wrong because you never back any of your statements.

Ironically, the data that proved me wrong on calendar year 2004 proved me right on my original statement. Sandhusker, being the weasel he is, graciously accepted the $100 but would not accept that the same data proved my original statement correct. Nothing I could say or do would say more about Sandbag than that did. The little coward picks and chooses what he wants to believe just like you do. FACTS BE DAMNED!


Only an R-CULTer could win a bet based on the integrity of their opponent proving themselves wrong as opposed to the R-CULTer proving them wrong.


1. Explain how the packers influence decisions that are made within the NCBA.

2. Explain how the packer faction is taking over the NCBA.



Watch the "Lying King" duck and run again.........................


OT, you got one thing right. Conman has a very good reason for being too chickensh*t to reveal his identity. He doesn't want anyone to know who the phony really is. He has the title for being the biggest idiot on this forum but he tells packer blamers like you what you want to hear.



~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Wrong "Lying King"!

R-CALF got a hundred dollar donation because I bet that Tyson's Boise and Pasco plants lost more money than Tyson's Lakeside plant made in calendar year 2004. I was wrong about calendar year 2004 only. I PROVED MYSELF WRONG ABOUT CALENDAR YEAR 2004 (my original statement was correct regarding the entire period of time when the Canadian border was closed). I ADMITTED BEING WRONG AND PAID UP ON MY OWN ACCORD as anyone with integrity would do. None of you R-CULT followers proved me wrong because you never back any of your statements.

Ironically, the data that proved me wrong on calendar year 2004 proved me right on my original statement. Sandhusker, being the weasel he is, graciously accepted the $100 but would not accept that the same data proved my original statement correct. Nothing I could say or do would say more about Sandbag than that did. The little coward picks and chooses what he wants to believe just like you do. FACTS BE DAMNED!


Only an R-CULTer could win a bet based on the integrity of their opponent proving themselves wrong as opposed to the R-CULTer proving them wrong.


1. Explain how the packers influence decisions that are made within the NCBA.

2. Explain how the packer faction is taking over the NCBA.



Watch the "Lying King" duck and run again.........................


OT, you got one thing right. Conman has a very good reason for being too chickensh*t to reveal his identity. He doesn't want anyone to know who the phony really is. He has the title for being the biggest idiot on this forum but he tells packer blamers like you what you want to hear.



~SH~

With all the policy decisions or lack thereof, you describe how they aren't.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
SH "(my original statement was correct regarding the entire period of time when the Canadian border was closed)."

Your "original" statement was not correct, either. Your "proof" didn't include a profit/loss figure from any of the plants. How can you prove one made more money than another without providing a dollar figure for either?

I offered you a chance to win your $100 back if you could prove your "original" statement. You never took me up on it. That offer still stands.

Now settle down, quit being a hypocrite, and act like an adult.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
SH, "1. Explain how the packers influence decisions that are made within the NCBA.

2. Explain how the packer faction is taking over the NCBA. "

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Mike John says the US shouldn't compete in Japan. Does this strategy benefit;

1) US producers who only make money when US beef is sold.

2) Multi-national packers who can supply Japan with beef from several different countries.

If you can explain to me how the answer would be #1, your questions might have a hint of revelency.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
SH, "1. Explain how the packers influence decisions that are made within the NCBA.

2. Explain how the packer faction is taking over the NCBA. "

--------------------------------------------------------------

Mike John says the US shouldn't compete in Japan. Does this strategy benefit;

1) US producers who only make money when US beef is sold.

2) Multi-national packers who can supply Japan with beef from several different countries.

If you can explain to me how the answer would be #1, your questions might have a hint of revelency.


Sandhusker were you guys sleeping when you let your packers become "Multi-ntional"?
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
Sandhusker said:
SH, "1. Explain how the packers influence decisions that are made within the NCBA.

2. Explain how the packer faction is taking over the NCBA. "

--------------------------------------------------------------

Mike John says the US shouldn't compete in Japan. Does this strategy benefit;

1) US producers who only make money when US beef is sold.

2) Multi-national packers who can supply Japan with beef from several different countries.

If you can explain to me how the answer would be #1, your questions might have a hint of revelency.


Sandhusker were you guys sleeping when you let your packers become "Multi-ntional"?

Your point is?
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Sandhusker said:
SH, "1. Explain how the packers influence decisions that are made within the NCBA.

2. Explain how the packer faction is taking over the NCBA. "

--------------------------------------------------------------

Mike John says the US shouldn't compete in Japan. Does this strategy benefit;

1) US producers who only make money when US beef is sold.

2) Multi-national packers who can supply Japan with beef from several different countries.

If you can explain to me how the answer would be #1, your questions might have a hint of revelency.


Sandhusker were you guys sleeping when you let your packers become "Multi-ntional"?

Your point is?


You complain about other countries that have let Multi-nationals run their packing industries. So why dod the US let Multi nationals get a death grip on yours?
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
BMR, "You complain about other countries that have let Multi-nationals run their packing industries. So why dod the US let Multi nationals get a death grip on yours?"

Big money gets what big money wants.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
BMR, "You complain about other countries that have let Multi-nationals run their packing industries. So why dod the US let Multi nationals get a death grip on yours?"

Big money gets what big money wants.



It's the American way :!:
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
Sandhusker said:
BMR, "You complain about other countries that have let Multi-nationals run their packing industries. So why dod the US let Multi nationals get a death grip on yours?"

Big money gets what big money wants.



It's the American way :!:

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
 

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