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Right Sector. The Great Ukrainian Reconquista

hypocritexposer

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In this video, you will see Dmitro Yarosh promote the Right Sector

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Inu_-0dcSU

If you were in oppostition to him, would you speak out?

The Russian position is also somewhat bolstered by the fact that Svoboda holds key posts in the interim government in Kiev, including that of deputy prime minister. Andriy Parubiy, the commander of the "Maidan self-defense," has been appointed the head of the National Security and Defense Council, and the leader of the Right Sector ultras, Dmitro Yarosh, is expected to become his deputy chairman. Svoboda controls the prosecutor general office and the ministries of ecology and agriculture.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJmHIXVK95Y

Here's another promotional video of the "peaceful protesters", that exercised their rights in overthrowing the elected government of Ukraine.
 

Steve

Well-known member
I just disproved that crap in another thread..

it is a complete falsehood..

reposting the same Russian propaganda over and over again doesn't make it true..


I am starting to believe you are a commie
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Steve said:
I just disproved that crap in another thread..

it is a complete falsehood..

reposting the same Russian propaganda over and over again doesn't make it true..


I am starting to believe you are a commie

Must have been Russians acting as the violent protesters in Ukraine. Russia must have known the outcome of the protests before and produced these videos...

Talk about a conspiracy theory...
 

Steve

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
I just disproved that crap in another thread..

it is a complete falsehood..

reposting the same Russian propaganda over and over again doesn't make it true..


I am starting to believe you are a commie

Must have been Russians acting as the violent protesters in Ukraine. Russia must have known the outcome of the protests before and produced these videos...

Talk about a conspiracy theory...


twist it any way you want.. but the fact is your posting lies.. and propaganda from the Russian state media..




I commented on the quote you posted.. I don't give a crap about the youtube videos..
 

Steve

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
I commented on the quote you posted.. I don't give a crap about the youtube videos..

That's because you have already made up your mind.


ok I watched it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJmHIXVK95Y

here is my analysis of it without going any further then just watching it..

it starts showing a ragtag bunch of protestors.. heavy coats.. made up pads. ect.. real ragtag..

then all of a sudden shift to soldiers training.. at 1:24
they are all in some sort of MATCHED uniforms.. and fairly professional..

Think about that..



the middle section from 1:24 shows scenes of soldiers training. and repeats most of them over and over again.. to fill the time.. to 4.32

I could probably do some searching and find the source of some of those training "scenes" on other youtube videos.

either way whether the group or someone else the middle section is pure propaganda.



then at 4:32 it switches to a group getting riot training.. standing in lines and they are MUCH more organized and uniform then the first group marching.. all the shields look professionally manufactured. the helmets are all the same.. my guess a reserve unit..

around 5:05 it start getting mixed up.. it looks like the first group of marchers doing riot training. shields are home made.. hockey pads.
not quite as ragtag as the marchers. but part of that group..

then it switches back to the soldiers at 5:34 and you see more professional.. and matching uniforms again..
I would say regular reserves training.

then a about 6:00 to 6:02 it shows the marches again..

and if you consider how brutal the Russian troops are.. I would wear as much padding and protection as I could if I was marching over there..
(the core Ukrainian officers are from former soviet units. )

so that is my take..

over all it is not out of the ordinary for protesting in soviet bloc countries..

other then a few minutes of spliced in scenes.. it is not really anything shocking. and even those scenes are standard training for a military unit

you have to remember this is a former soviet block country. they do not have a pile of money to train their soldiers.. let alone their reserves
so they look a bit amateurish..

there is clearly two if not three distinct groups..
marchers.. reserves training. with some subsets in each group..


I have put alot of time into looking at what you have posted..

but the fact is you have put NO time into proving what you have posted.

and you say I have a closed mind.. no I just don't have enough time to look at everything.

ad that is one fundamental key to conspiracy theories. they just keep throwing crap and hope you give up..

you have not put an ounce of effort into proving anything you have posted is true.. in fact I doubt you are even reading my responses..

I have debunked everything you have posted..

if you want to side with them feel free.. but this is about the same as your Sept 11 theories. you keep throwing crap hoping something sticks to the wall..


but I am sure if anyone is still reading they have realized your are full of bullcrao on this subject already ,.. if not they should feel free to start a thread and I will honestly address their concerns.







.
 

Steve

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
I have put alot of time into looking at what you have posted..

but the fact is you have put NO time into proving what you have posted..

You're doing just fine proving what I have posted... :wink:

you are delusional ..
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
I have put alot of time into looking at what you have posted..

but the fact is you have put NO time into proving what you have posted..

You're doing just fine proving what I have posted... :wink:

you are delusional ..



In this thread it is you that appears to be delusional.

Claiming you have debunked a video as Russian propaganda, while claiming you haven't watched said video.

I'll start another thread about you debunking the quote
 

Steve

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
You're doing just fine proving what I have posted... :wink:

you are delusional ..



In this thread it is you that appears to be delusional.

Claiming you have debunked a video as Russian propaganda, while claiming you haven't watched said video.

I'll start another thread about you debunking the quote


again.. that is an outright lie..

I made no comment on the video.. prior to watching it..

the comment I made was clearly addressing your quoted comment



either way.. I watched it.. and it is no big deal..

why do you think it is a big deal?.. or even worthy of posting..
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
you are delusional ..



In this thread it is you that appears to be delusional.

Claiming you have debunked a video as Russian propaganda, while claiming you haven't watched said video.

I'll start another thread about you debunking the quote


again.. that is an outright lie..

I made no comment on the video.. prior to watching it..

the comment I made was clearly addressing your quoted comment



either way.. I watched it.. and it is no big deal..

why do you think it is a big deal?.. or even worthy of posting..



you still haven't commented on it, you commented on a different video, but I'm the liar???
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
I commented on the quote you posted.. I don't give a crap about the youtube videos..

That's because you have already made up your mind.


ok I watched it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJmHIXVK95Y

here is my analysis of it without going any further then just watching it..

it starts showing a ragtag bunch of protestors.. heavy coats.. made up pads. ect.. real ragtag..

then all of a sudden shift to soldiers training.. at 1:24
they are all in some sort of MATCHED uniforms.. and fairly professional..

Think about that..



the middle section from 1:24 shows scenes of soldiers training. and repeats most of them over and over again.. to fill the time.. to 4.32

I could probably do some searching and find the source of some of those training "scenes" on other youtube videos.

either way whether the group or someone else the middle section is pure propaganda.



then at 4:32 it switches to a group getting riot training.. standing in lines and they are MUCH more organized and uniform then the first group marching.. all the shields look professionally manufactured. the helmets are all the same.. my guess a reserve unit..

around 5:05 it start getting mixed up.. it looks like the first group of marchers doing riot training. shields are home made.. hockey pads.
not quite as ragtag as the marchers. but part of that group..

then it switches back to the soldiers at 5:34 and you see more professional.. and matching uniforms again..
I would say regular reserves training.

then a about 6:00 to 6:02 it shows the marches again..

and if you consider how brutal the Russian troops are.. I would wear as much padding and protection as I could if I was marching over there..
(the core Ukrainian officers are from former soviet units. )

so that is my take..

over all it is not out of the ordinary for protesting in soviet bloc countries..

other then a few minutes of spliced in scenes.. it is not really anything shocking. and even those scenes are standard training for a military unit

you have to remember this is a former soviet block country. they do not have a pile of money to train their soldiers.. let alone their reserves
so they look a bit amateurish..

there is clearly two if not three distinct groups..
marchers.. reserves training. with some subsets in each group..


I have put alot of time into looking at what you have posted..

but the fact is you have put NO time into proving what you have posted.

and you say I have a closed mind.. no I just don't have enough time to look at everything.

ad that is one fundamental key to conspiracy theories. they just keep throwing crap and hope you give up..

you have not put an ounce of effort into proving anything you have posted is true.. in fact I doubt you are even reading my responses..

I have debunked everything you have posted..

if you want to side with them feel free.. but this is about the same as your Sept 11 theories. you keep throwing crap hoping something sticks to the wall..


but I am sure if anyone is still reading they have realized your are full of bullcrao on this subject already ,.. if not they should feel free to start a thread and I will honestly address their concerns.







.
 

Steve

Well-known member
so what is you point?







I have debunked everything you have posted.. .. so now you resort to reposting my comment..
 
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