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Silver

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Christian militia members held for plot to kill policeman and bomb funeral

Michigan-based militia members may have been trying to provoke anti-government uprising


Nine members of a rightwing Christian militia in the US were charged yesterday with plotting to murder a policeman and then bomb his funeral in an attempt to provoke an anti-government uprising.

Eight of the Michigan-based group, which includes one woman, were arrested at the weekend in raids in three states, amid warnings from civil rights groups of a surge in the number of extremist militias and "patriot" organisations that see the government as the enemy. A ninth person remained at large as charges of sedition and the planned use of weapons of mass destruction were issued.

The members of the group, called Hutaree, allegedly planned to kill the policeman and plant improvised bombs – modelled on those used by insurgents in Iraq – along the route of his funeral, to murder other officers and mourners.

Hutaree, which the group says means Christian warrior, is described by prosecutors as advocating attacks on law enforcement agencies as the "foot soldiers" of the federal government.

"This is an example of radical and extremist fringe groups which can be found throughout our society," said Andrew Arena, the FBI agent in charge of the investigation in Michigan. "The FBI takes such extremist groups seriously."

Hutaree describes its doctrine as based on the testimony of Jesus and warns of a looming battle with the antichrist. "The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield, if so God wills it," the group says in its literature.

Among the forums on the group's website is one dealing with weapons, and another called the "evil Jew forum".

According to prosecutors, the accused Hutaree members spent 18 months planning the killings. After attacking the funeral, militia members planned to retreat to fortified sites and begin a war against the government. The prosecution says the attacks were intended to "intimidate and demoralise law enforcement".

"It is believed by the Hutaree that this engagement would then serve as a catalyst for a more widespread uprising against the government," the indictment said.

Prosecutors say the accused conspirators were led by David Stone, 45, known as Captain Hutaree. He is alleged to have used the internet to find information on improvised bombs in Iraq and to have told his son to obtain the materials. The prosecution also alleges that Stone taught Hutaree members to make bombs.

Stone's former wife Donna was among those arrested. One of his sons, Joshua, is the ninth person being sought by police.

Last month, a prominent civil rights group warned of a surge in the number of anti-government extremist groups and armed militias, driven by deepening hostility on the right to Barack Obama, anger over the economy, and the increasing propagation of conspiracy theories.

The Southern Poverty Law Centre identified Michigan as one of the states with the highest number of rightwing militias and extremist "patriot" groups. The number of such organisations rose by nearly 250% to more than 500 last year.

The centre said police officers were a favoured target of extreme rightwing groups, with six murdered by militias since Obama became president.

The Conservative Political Action Conference this February was cosponsored by groups such as the John Birch Society, which believes Dwight Eisenhower was a communist agent, and the Oath Keepers, which suggests that the government has secret plans to declare martial law and intern "patriotic Americans in concentration camps," the SPLC said.
 

Steve

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Christian militia members held for plot to kill policeman and bomb funeral

Michigan-based militia members may have been trying to provoke anti-government uprising


Nine members of a rightwing Christian militia in the US were charged yesterday with plotting to murder a policeman and then bomb his funeral in an attempt to provoke an anti-government uprising.

they crossed the line and should have been arrested.. there is nothing wrong with preparing for the worst, but acting to make it come about is wrong.... period!
 

hopalong

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Silver said:
Sandhusker said:
What makes them "right wing"?

Are you freakin serious?

Define right wing as related to this story!!!!!!!!! Other than some one called them that!!!!!!

They needed arrested we all agree on that but to label them as right wingers is not correct.
 
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Anonymous

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Larrry said:
silver, do you call Steve, Sandhusker, Mike, Katrina, Faster Horses rightwing?

Big difference between being rightwing- and being a Rightwingnut....
 

Silver

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Oldtimer said:
Larrry said:
silver, do you call Steve, Sandhusker, Mike, Katrina, Faster Horses rightwing?

Big difference between being rightwing- and being a Rightwingnut....

Exactly. I consider myself right of center but I sure don't want to be associated in any way with that line of thinking.
 

Martin Jr.

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The only thing linking them to "Right Wing" is that they are a militia group. Some militia groups seem to claim being "Right Wing".

As for a religious group they are way left of any normal Christian group and would fit more into the same class as militant Muslum groups.
 

Larrry

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Well we saw the spewing of garbage that some of the koolaid drinkers were fed and no attempt to back up their garbage. Another spew and run
 

Silver

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From a respected news source:

The Hutaree Web site quotes several Bible passages and declares: "We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment."

Chip Berlet, a senior analyst with Political Research Associates, a think tank based in Somerville, Massachusetts, said Hutaree's online writings suggest the group fits into a Christian apocalyptic ideology that believes the U.S. government is "in league with Satan" and "the chief agent of Satan is the Antichrist."

"In this particular reading of apocalyptic prophecy, there's a huge battle between good and evil," said Berlet, whose group studies right-wing extremists. "Powerful, political elected officials ... are conspiring with Satanto build a one-world government."
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Silver said:
From a respected news source:

The Hutaree Web site quotes several Bible passages and declares: "We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment."

Chip Berlet, a senior analyst with Political Research Associates, a think tank based in Somerville, Massachusetts, said Hutaree's online writings suggest the group fits into a Christian apocalyptic ideology that believes the U.S. government is "in league with Satan" and "the chief agent of Satan is the Antichrist."

"In this particular reading of apocalyptic prophecy, there's a huge battle between good and evil," said Berlet, whose group studies right-wing extremists. "Powerful, political elected officials ... are conspiring with Satanto build a one-world government."


Sounds more like "Nutcase wingnuts" to me. :roll:
 

Silver

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Silver said:
From a respected news source:

The Hutaree Web site quotes several Bible passages and declares: "We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment."

Chip Berlet, a senior analyst with Political Research Associates, a think tank based in Somerville, Massachusetts, said Hutaree's online writings suggest the group fits into a Christian apocalyptic ideology that believes the U.S. government is "in league with Satan" and "the chief agent of Satan is the Antichrist."

"In this particular reading of apocalyptic prophecy, there's a huge battle between good and evil," said Berlet, whose group studies right-wing extremists. "Powerful, political elected officials ... are conspiring with Satanto build a one-world government."


Sounds more like "Nutcase wingnuts" to me. :roll:

Any time you get too far from center either way you fall into "Nutcase wingnut" :wink:
 

Steve

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Silver said:
Sandhusker said:
What makes them "right wing"?

Are you freakin serious?

in a way.. I can agree with SandHusker... I am rightwing.. and ofen called a rightwingnut... and I don't claim them or want them associated with me..

at both ends of any political spectrum you have groups so far disconnected from the core group it is hard to recognize any real connection to the core group... I guess when you step off the right fringe you end up acting like an awful lefty... then don't expect rightwingnuts to claim or defend you..
 
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Anonymous

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Steve
at both ends of any political spectrum you have groups so far disconnected from the core group it is hard to recognize any real connection to the core group...

But anymore because of the hype put out by the media- both political parties are recognized more by the wingnut extremes than the core group....BOTH parties.....
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Steve
at both ends of any political spectrum you have groups so far disconnected from the core group it is hard to recognize any real connection to the core group...

But anymore because of the hype put out by the media- both political parties are recognized more by the wingnut extremes than the core group....BOTH parties.....

really? if it is a radical muslim terrorist. they downplay the religious aspect...

and you have to go digging for facts online to find the leftist or religious connection.. ... yet that is not the case if the group or person has a slight connection to the right, Christianity or the TEA party..
 

hypocritexposer

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Sandhusker said:
Silver said:
Sandhusker said:
What makes them "right wing"?

Are you freakin serious?

I am serious. Where is the "right" in their thinking/actions? Why can't they be "left wing"?


Jacob J. Ward, 33, of Huron, Ohio, voted as a Democrat in the 2004 and 2008 primary elections, and in 10 other elections since 2000. Voters' political affiliations in Ohio are determined by which party's ballot they request during even-year primary elections.

http://toledoblade.com/article/20100401/NEWS16/4010369/0/COLUMNIST
 
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