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Romney/Mormonism

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Anonymous

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I've been waiting to see if anyone would bring this up- but saw nothing except the earlier southern ministers calling Mormonism a cult...

I don't mean this as a knock against Romney- nor against the Mormon religion---BUT I'm sure if you have any contact with the real world that you are aware there is quite a circle of folks that negatively tie Mormonism in with other religions like Judaism and the Hutterites for accumulation of church owned property and wealth accumulation thru financing members--- often claiming they are getting it by using Church tax exemptions... I know I've long heard grumblings of the Hutterites buying up land at prices others couldn't afford-- and altho I've never seen it- heard grumbling of others of the Mormon Church doing the same.. I think at one time the largest ranch in the continental US (Florida ?) was owned by the Mormon church...

Like I said- I've never seen in it with Mormons- and the Mormon friends I have are just like the members of any other church ...

But my question is- how big nationwide is that perception against the Mormon church- and will it affect this years Presidential election ?
 

Larrry

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Oldtimer said:
I've been waiting to see if anyone would bring this up- but saw nothing except the earlier southern ministers calling Mormonism a cult...

I don't mean this as a knock against Romney- nor against the Mormon religion---BUT I'm sure if you have any contact with the real world that you are aware there is quite a circle of folks that negatively tie Mormonism in with other religions like Judaism and the Hutterites for accumulation of church owned property and wealth accumulation thru financing members--- often claiming they are getting it by using Church tax exemptions... I know I've long heard grumblings of the Hutterites buying up land at prices others couldn't afford-- and altho I've never seen it- heard grumbling of others of the Mormon Church doing the same.. I think at one time the largest ranch in the continental US (Florida ?) was owned by the Mormon church...

Like I said- I've never seen in it with Mormons- and the Mormon friends I have are just like the members of any other church ...

But my question is- how big nationwide is that perception against the Mormon church- and will it affect this years Presidential election ?

Slow mornin huh? :roll:

The thing abbout Burquas is that one size fits all.
 

loomixguy

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Leave it to the biggest bigot, racist, dullard, and homophobe on the board to bring this subject up.

I'll take a Mormon (or any other infidel) 100 times over someone who faces Mecca 5 times a day.
 

Mike

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Republicans are hoping the Dems will bring up religion during the Convention, but they won't. That would open the door to Buckwheats questionable religious roots with a certain Rev. Wright and Buckwheat's own well known Muslim background.
 
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The name of that ranch is the Deseret Ranch...I thought of this today because I remembered a post a few years ago on one of these ranching sites about the countrys largest ranch-- which ended up having to be closed by the moderator because it turned into a Mormon bashing event.... I was shocked by the vitriolic filthy comments that resembled the rightwingernuts of this sites hate...
 

Tam

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I don't mean this as a knock against Romney-

I call Bull Crap you meant to knock Romney and we all know it. :roll: You meant to just like the Dems meant to convict him with the un named source that claimed he hadn't paid any taxes and when the Dems used a greiving Husband to claim Romney was somehow responsible for his wifes death from Canser. When it was six years after he lost his job and she had her own health insurance.

You and your Democrat cultist brothers and sisters will do anything you can to destroy Romney, No what was it Obama said KILL ROMNEY, as your hero can't run a clean campaign and run on his records at least not on the one we know about. And I doubt he would qualify to run if he un-sealed the rest of them.

Face it Oldtimer anyone bringing up the Morman faith now is doing it for one reason and one reason only to distract attention away from the OBAMA'S FAILED ECONOMIC RECORD. If you do not want to see pictures and videos of Rev. Wright God Damning American stop right now. :roll: :x
 

Mike

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Sold a lot of bulls to the Deseret Ranch down in Kissimmee.......................

Their checks are always good and never seen a harder working bunch of folks. They are an asset to the area and the locals love them.

Never heard ANY cattleman that do business with them say anything negative.

Of course you'll have the ones with "Wealth-Envy", such as yourself, say things when they don't actually know.......... :roll:

Why aren't you preaching about the Baptists & Catholics that own huge organizations that operate hospitals all across the nation. Many are Charitable Hospitals like "Burn Centers" "Children's Hospitals" that are free to the needy.

Low life scum as yourself love to bash those that work hard to achieve..... :roll:
 

Tam

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I can kind of understand why people might look at Romney's Morman faith and wonder if he is going to get anything done as President considering what the other Morman in the US government has been able to accomplish.

Note to Oldtimer not all Mormans are as un-accomplished as Harry Reid. :wink:
 

hopalong

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That ranch does more charity work by itself that the whole state of Montana, and it is not limited to members in faith,,,get your facts straight oldtimer,,quit being a hypocrite,if you do not know waht the he!! you are talking about keep your FAT mouth shut,,,
 

Mike

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Deseret’s agricultural operations provide jobs, tax revenue, and other economic benefits to the region. Many of our supplies are bought locally. Employees and their families shop locally, attend local schools, and participate in the community. Although the Ranch is owned by a church, Deseret’s operations pay local, state and national taxes, and Deseret is an equal opportunity employer. For many years Deseret has been a major property tax payer in Central Florida. As a matter of principle, Deseret accepts no government subsidies or taxpayer supported price supports.

We support the community not only with our tax dollars, but with our time and service as well. Annually, Deseret employees are encouraged to engage in community building service activities as part of their employment.
"Deseret Live Stock Company” was formed in 1891 by group of prominent Mormon Pioneer families which included the Hatch's, Moss's, and Moyle's. It served as a summer range for sheep, with headquarters in Woods Cross, Utah. Following ownership by two other entities, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints purchased the ranch in 1983. “Deseret Land & Livestock” (DLL) is managed by Farm Management Company, a tax-paying entity of the Church.
 

Steve

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OldTimer said:
I've been waiting to see if anyone would bring this up- but saw nothing

I doubt it would have been brought up at all... but for those running out of ways to "not defend" Obama's lack of accomplishments. it is just another distraction..

Steve said:
as far as the ranch goes. I do not agree with Churches being in business .. even as my own congregation owns a motel..

it is ran as a "retreat" center for other churches that can't afford to bring youth to the Beach.. and has been ran in one form or another for over 60 years, with us buying a foreclosed rundown hotel in the 80's..

but the ability to abuse the non-profit status is to great

but I fail to see what that has to do with Romney..

his money is in a blind trust.. and has been since about 2000,..

He donates to his church.. tithes,.. just like millions of Americans

I don't agree with their theology,.. but then I don't agree with Obamas church's theology either..


So the question as a Christian and an American I must decide who is the best person for President..

a person who doesn't pay much attention to the faith part of his church,.. but dwells on the political message, agenda and by all accounts lives by the political message and agenda.

or

a person who follows his faith, lives by his faith, and for the most part doesn't let the politics or agenda of his faith influence his work..

I think the answer for most Christian Americans is pretty easy..
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jodywy

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The Mormon Church has a lot of farms, ranches dairies, most the work is done by volunteers, missionaries, and some paid Church employees. Some if not all the harvest depending on the operation is processed at church Diaries, canners, bakery’s. Then is used in the Church welfare system, some wheat, flour, can goods is given to other aid sources.(Know they work with the Catholic aid sources in some parts of the world)

We used to have a local welfare farm that was just feed barley, everybody showed up with a plow, cultivator , drill , combined of grain truck was neat to see field work get done so quickly.
 

flounder

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Steve said:
OldTimer said:
I've been waiting to see if anyone would bring this up- but saw nothing

I doubt it would have been brought up at all... but for those running out of ways to "not defend" Obama's lack of accomplishments. it is just another distraction..

Steve said:
as far as the ranch goes. I do not agree with Churches being in business .. even as my own congregation owns a motel..

it is ran as a "retreat" center for other churches that can't afford to bring youth to the Beach.. and has been ran in one form or another for over 60 years, with us buying a foreclosed rundown hotel in the 80's..

but the ability to abuse the non-profit status is to great

but I fail to see what that has to do with Romney..

his money is in a blind trust.. and has been since about 2000,..

He donates to his church.. tithes,.. just like millions of Americans

I don't agree with their theology,.. but then I don't agree with Obamas church's theology either..


So the question as a Christian and an American I must decide who is the best person for President..

a person who doesn't pay much attention to the faith part of his church,.. but dwells on the political message, agenda and by all accounts lives by the political message and agenda.

or

a person who follows his faith, lives by his faith, and for the most part doesn't let the politics or agenda of his faith influence his work..

I think the answer for most Christian Americans is pretty easy..
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oh heck ot, those mormons believe in one man, and ten or more women. kinda like those that believe in the 72 virgins, but the mormons don’t wait til after death, the mormons practice this in the real life. yet, they don’t believe in gays getting married, they hold that ritual for their own harem of women, kinda like the catholic priest do with children. the mormons don’t advertise this practice today. today, they deny this, they kinda went back in the closet, however, they practiced this in the past, yet Polygyny is still practiced today. God, don’t you just love the religious right...NOT, they are a bunch of hypocrites, bigots, and liars. ...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_fundamentalism



some say even that Mormonism a rogue cult ;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZI2K8roLG8




p.s. hey larrry,



I think the answer for most Christian Americans is pretty easy..


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OBAMA 2012



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Tam said:
I don't mean this as a knock against Romney-

I call Bull Crap you meant to knock Romney and we all know it. :roll: You meant to just like the Dems meant to convict him with the un named source that claimed he hadn't paid any taxes and when the Dems used a greiving Husband to claim Romney was somehow responsible for his wifes death from Canser. When it was six years after he lost his job and she had her own health insurance.

You and your Democrat cultist brothers and sisters will do anything you can to destroy Romney, No what was it Obama said KILL ROMNEY, as your hero can't run a clean campaign and run on his records at least not on the one we know about. And I doubt he would qualify to run if he un-sealed the rest of them.

Face it Oldtimer anyone bringing up the Morman faith now is doing it for one reason and one reason only to distract attention away from the OBAMA'S FAILED ECONOMIC RECORD. If you do not want to see pictures and videos of Rev. Wright God Damning American stop right now. :roll: :x


Well Tammy Faye- I could care sh*t what you think of me or why you think I posted it....You live in such a biased world- and with your hate for me- with rose colored glasses that you wouldn't know it if the real world bit you in the ***....

But out in the real world- and much of that real world is the part I truly dispise of bigotry and religious hatemongering-- over the years that I've been around I've heard Mormons discussed and cussed over their financial dealings- the same as the Hoots, the Jews, the Church Universal and several other minority religions and cults-- and usually by the same radical right groups/people ... Now it seems to be the Muslim and any of the far east and mideastern religions that are taking the heaviest hits from the nutcase rightwingers who have to blame the world on someone....
One of the reasons I wasn't totally surprised when some of the Southern Baptist and Evangelical preachers/leaders/politicians including Santorum came out calling Mormonism a cult and not a Christian religion...

Actually Tammy- it was nothing personal or against Mormans-- as the person I supported most for the Repub nomination- John Huntsman is also a Morman...

But I truly do wonder with the vitriolic hate I've seen spieled against Morman over the years-- will that affect the election :???:
 

Larrry

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Well Tammy Faye- I could care sh*t what you think of me or why you think I posted it....You live in such a biased world- with rose colored glasses that you wouldn't know it if the real world bit you in the ***....

ot you take the cake


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