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R's still fight to limit who (what color) votes

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Anonymous

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Early Voting to Begin on Tuesday in Ohio

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit has ruled that an earlier district court ruling ordering Ohio to roll back its plans to reduce early voting is valid and thus must be enforced. The Ohio secretary of state, Jon Husted, complained about the decision, saying that legislators, not judges, should determine when voting can take place. His legal response is to ask for an en banc ruling, in which all the judges on the 6th Circuit get to vote on the case. If they agree to do this, they will have to move fast since otherwise voting will begin on Tuesday.

The issue isn't so much when voting starts but whether voting is allowed on the Sunday before election day when black churches typically charter buses to get parishioners to the polls after services. This is what Husted, a Republican, really wants to stop.I believe that voting is the first act of building a community as well as building a country.

Republicans just can't get themselves away from promoting themselves as the party of the old grey haired bigoted white men- that definitely don't want anyone so low as those that have to take a bus to vote...

I always chuckle when the national conventions come up and the TV's show the audiences and they try to say that's not true... :wink: :p :lol: :lol:
 

loomixguy

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Just how many times do these non white people need or get to vote? Let the churches pick folks up on election day, or help them with an absentee ballot.

How many cases of voter fraud occurred in 2012 that Holder didn't do a damn thing about? Black Panthers ring a bell, Fatman? How many dead people vote every year in Chicago or Detroit?

In my lifetime the Libtards have stolen or tried to steal plenty of the national elections. Old Joe Kennedy stole the 1960 election, Algore and Kerrey tried to steal the 2000 & 2004 elections, unsuccessfully, thank God. And you can bet your bottom dollar that the fix was in for the Great Pretender in 2008 & 2012, and God only knows what other Democrat skullduggery took place in other years.

Anybody with a scintilla of grey matter between their ears wouldn't have anything to do with the same political party that embraces Jesse Jackson, Big Al Sharpton, or Louis Farrakhan. They should be running like hell away from it.

BTW, Fatman.... You come to my county and try to vote without the proper identification and credentials and you'll see what happens.
 

Mike

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Why can't the buses pick them up on election day just as they do on Sunday? If they want to change the day of the election, then there are ways to do that too.

And then there is always the absentee voting ballots that allow people to vote weeks in advance.

The court got it right.
 

Brad S

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Communists trying to stuff the ballot box and claiming opposition is racist. OT if you have any honor this should make you ashamed.
 
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I guess I was brought up in an area and time of different values... We were taught that it was not only the right but the duty of everyone to vote... And that we should aid folks in being able to vote- not hinder them....

From High School days I can remember local High School and civic groups going around hauling the elderly and disabled or others without rides to the polls- or working with them to get them absentee ballots...

From there we as a state went to mail out/mail in ballots, to more simplify the election process and make it easier for election administrators...

And instead of some of these areas/folks that seem to be proud of the fact they hindered or kept some from voting-- we took/take pride when we get an 80-85% voter turnout and discuss ideas of how we can get more folks voting and try to reach what used to be the American goal of 100% turnout ...
 

Brad S

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The problem is when a voter votes more than once or when he is dead or when he never existed. Since you say you value voting, how much value does a vote have when a fraudulent vote cancels it out? Absolutely none. If you really value preserving voting rights (you commie bastards don't, that's just the lie you tell to preserve voter fraud loopholes) protect votes from being negated by fraud. Yes, it's ok to make voting as difficult as renting a movie to stop the voter fraud.
 

loomixguy

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Brad S said:
The problem is when a voter votes more than once or when he is dead or when he never existed. Since you say you value voting, how much value does a vote have when a fraudulent vote cancels it out? Absolutely none. If you really value preserving voting rights (you commie bastards don't, that's just the lie you tell to preserve voter fraud loopholes) protect votes from being negated by fraud. Yes, it's ok to make voting as difficult as renting a movie to stop the voter fraud.

Well said! But the really quite conservative, faux legal "expert", and all around toady for the liberal elite doesn't comprehend that the party that he's in lock step with invented and got the patent on voter fraud. :roll:
 
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Brad S said:
The problem is when a voter votes more than once or when he is dead or when he never existed. Since you say you value voting, how much value does a vote have when a fraudulent vote cancels it out? Absolutely none. If you really value preserving voting rights (you commie bastards don't, that's just the lie you tell to preserve voter fraud loopholes) protect votes from being negated by fraud. Yes, it's ok to make voting as difficult as renting a movie to stop the voter fraud.


So now if you support voting rights- and trying to get everyone out to vote and are proud of 80+% voter turnouts you are a "commie bastard" -eh :???: :roll: :(

Brad- you need to think about taking up drinking! :wink: :lol:
 
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loomixguy said:
Brad S said:
The problem is when a voter votes more than once or when he is dead or when he never existed. Since you say you value voting, how much value does a vote have when a fraudulent vote cancels it out? Absolutely none. If you really value preserving voting rights (you commie bastards don't, that's just the lie you tell to preserve voter fraud loopholes) protect votes from being negated by fraud. Yes, it's ok to make voting as difficult as renting a movie to stop the voter fraud.

Well said! But the really quite conservative, faux legal "expert", and all around toady for the liberal elite doesn't comprehend that the party that he's in lock step with invented and got the patent on voter fraud. :roll:

So how does voting over a 10-20-30 day period create more voter fraud then the old one day en masse rush of people to the polls :???:

In Montana it was found it takes less election judges to verify identities and less help for the county clerks to spread the election out over a month then it does when you have everyone showing up on one day to 20 different spots around each county... And now much of the work is being handled by full time trained and experienced county employees rather than by part time election workers...
 

Steve

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So how does voting over a 10-20-30 day period create more voter fraud then the old one day en masse rush of people to the polls

well that is easy.. on one day you could hit three maybe four polling places..

on a month.. your daily rate would fall a bit ,.. but with more time,.. you could get in at least 45-60 votes...
 

loomixguy

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"Rush to the polls"?!? Are you SERIOUS?? In Valley county, Montana? ROTFLMFAO!

I have a wee bit of experience with the mad rush to the polls in a rural county. Out of the 12 hours the polling place is open, there are at least 9-10 hours of excruciating, suicide contemplating BOREDOM! You're busier setting up and tearing down than you are while the polls are open, even with an overwhelming turnout. Then if you're the messenger, there's that drive to the courthouse.

More efficient to spread it out over a month my azz. That tells me the county is either too cheap to pay minimum wage and a bit of mileage to get the job done in one day by a few folks, or the intelligence level of the registered voters there is slightly less than room temperature IQ level and they can't handle the "workload" or responsibility.
 

Steve

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In Montana it was found it takes less election judges to verify identities and less help for the county clerks to spread the election out over a month then it does when you have everyone showing up on one day to 20 different spots around each county...

well for starters.. this isn't Montana,...

it is a liberal union country in most of the parts where voter fraud occur,..

at our polling station in our small community.. I am often one of a few voting in the early morning...

yet.. we have at least 15 poll workers... and it doesn't matter if is just a school board election or a presidential election,...

so in twenty different spots.. (which we easily have in this county.. )
at time we had three spots just in our town..

that number would jump to 300 employees per day in two shifts...

and most if not all would be temp employees.. voting out here costs
are not cheap.. and each additional day just compounds that cost..


New Jersey Spends Nearly $100 Per Voter in 2013 Primary Elections

$5.4 million: The approximate cost for poll workers’ salaries per election. This number is based on the 6,542 polling places in 2013, the minimum number of workers per polling place, and the $200 salary for poll workers. The cost would be divided between the counties and the state.

The cost, therefore, per participant in the primaries alone was over $92.

and that doesn't even count that most government employees are allowed time to vote on the clock...

now spread that out over 20 to 30 days... $162 million.. just to get more voter turnout..

I fully understand and am for having more time to vote.. but really with mail in ballots, no one really has much of an excuse for not voting..

all I want is accountability, voter ID's and to get the costs under control..

I say give them Sunday,.. but cut back on the overall time then if Sunday is so darn important of a voting day..
 

hopalong

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Brad,,, if you take up drinking and turn into another oldtimer yiu will never be forgiven,,,, look what it has done to him :wink:
 

Steve

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oh by the way... $200 per poll worker works out at ...

4 hours in the morning,.. with a 15 minute break..
(which means you need a substitute for that break.. )

and hour paid lunch..

and a shift change,.. as often the voting exceeds the 8 hour normal work day..

so if it is open from 7am to 8pm.. 13 hours.. plus two fifteen minute breaks.,.. and coverage.. comes out to about 14 hours.. add in lunch and coverage.. 16 hours.. and the time allowed in the breaks and shift changes.. and each minimum polling place costs 17 hours.. or $400+ per spot.
now multiply that cost at $25 bucks and hour.. for each DAY
 

loomixguy

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Here they pay minimum wage. 6 workers per polling place for the entire day, no shift change. Some bring their own lunch, those who don't slip out real quick & get a premade gas station choke & puke burger or they order a couple of gas station choke & puke pizzas and somebody runs up to get them. Polls are open 8-8. Workers arrive at 7 to get set up and can generally leave before 9 pm when it's all over and the messenger is on his way with the ballots in the locked bag, after everybody has signed off on it.
 

ranch hand

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Oldtimer said:
Brad S said:
The problem is when a voter votes more than once or when he is dead or when he never existed. Since you say you value voting, how much value does a vote have when a fraudulent vote cancels it out? Absolutely none. If you really value preserving voting rights (you commie bastards don't, that's just the lie you tell to preserve voter fraud loopholes) protect votes from being negated by fraud. Yes, it's ok to make voting as difficult as renting a movie to stop the voter fraud.


So now if you support voting rights- and trying to get everyone out to vote and are proud of 80+% voter turnouts you are a "commie bastard" -eh :???: :roll: :(

Brad- you need to think about taking up drinking! :wink: :lol:

How did that turn out for you OT? (the bolded part in case you get confused.) :) :) :eek: :shock: :? :???: :lol: :( :cry: :roll:
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
I guess I was brought up in an area and time of different values... We were taught that it was not only the right but the duty of everyone to vote... And that we should aid folks in being able to vote- not hinder them....

From High School days I can remember local High School and civic groups going around hauling the elderly and disabled or others without rides to the polls- or working with them to get them absentee ballots...

From there we as a state went to mail out/mail in ballots, to more simplify the election process and make it easier for election administrators...

And instead of some of these areas/folks that seem to be proud of the fact they hindered or kept some from voting-- we took/take pride when we get an 80-85% voter turnout and discuss ideas of how we can get more folks voting and try to reach what used to be the American goal of 100% turnout ...

That's all so lovely and brings a tear to my eye but like most of your dribble I suspect it has NOTHING virtually to do with the subject of the thread.
 

Steve

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loomixguy said:
Here they pay minimum wage. 6 workers per polling place for the entire day, no shift change. Some bring their own lunch, those who don't slip out real quick & get a premade gas station choke & puke burger or they order a couple of gas station choke & puke pizzas and somebody runs up to get them. Polls are open 8-8. Workers arrive at 7 to get set up and can generally leave before 9 pm when it's all over and the messenger is on his way with the ballots in the locked bag, after everybody has signed off on it.

I will file a union complaint and will start the lawsuit for those poor underpaid overworked oppressed employees immediately,..

but first you need to send in your dues..
 
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