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Rush Has This One Right

Econ101

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By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the
entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.


If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.

Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.

If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who have and are now fighting.
"When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.
 

RoperAB

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Why are they paying 9/11 victims money? Why are they paying them so much?
This is all news to me? Wow those are huge payouts! Are these like to just police and firemen families? There not paying that out to everybody are they?
 

kolanuraven

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Most of those 9/11 pay out decisions were made at a time of high emotion...the WRONG time to make ANY decision!

I don't deny that the families should receive something in the way of assistance, or whatever you want to call it. BUT.....some of these people have recevied MILLIONS and just screwd a lot of it away on boob jobs, pool tables, new expensive cars, etc.

Not quiet the things you would think of when it comes to victim families and their needs.
 

Econ101

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RoperAB said:
Why are they paying 9/11 victims money? Why are they paying them so much?
This is all news to me? Wow those are huge payouts! Are these like to just police and firemen families? There not paying that out to everybody are they?

The big money went to the higher income earners who died at the towers. Like they didn't have insurance already.

Much of the money came from private donations that came as a result of public sympathy for the victims.

I doubt the police and fireman families were compensated to the degree the suits made out in this one. One of the things Rush was correct about.

Sometimes Rush is an idiot, but on this one he was right on.
 

passin thru

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Not giving the 911 widows compensation is kind of demeaning to the 911 widows isn't it...................after all it's not nice to mess with these widows :wink:
 

nonothing

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passin thru said:
Not giving the 911 widows compensation is kind of demeaning to the 911 widows isn't it...................after all it's not nice to mess with these widows :wink:


You may find it hard to believe passing thru....but unlike you people care about others and some peoples true loves were lost that day.....You may feel they do not deserve money,but at least treat them with kindness and respect.......Its hard to lose someone you love no matter where it is,but when it happens to you on TV in front of the world,that pain is there over and over in books and media venues.Why dont you just let the widows of all 911 be,show some compassion.
 

Econ101

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nonothing said:
passin thru said:
Not giving the 911 widows compensation is kind of demeaning to the 911 widows isn't it...................after all it's not nice to mess with these widows :wink:


You may find it hard to believe passing thru....but unlike you people care about others and some peoples true loves were lost that day.....You may feel they do not deserve money,but at least treat them with kindness and respect.......Its hard to lose someone you love no matter where it is,but when it happens to you on TV in front of the world,that pain is there over and over in books and media venues.Why dont you just let the widows of all 911 be,show some compassion.

And I just wish that real supporters of the military would support their troops by paying adequate compensation when the troops give their lives in combat. It is the least a society can do for the sacrifice.

Those who do not support this effort for the sake of military families do not really support the troops, except for their own purposes.
 

passin thru

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You may find it hard to believe passing thru....but unlike you people care about others and some peoples true loves were lost that day.....You may feel they do not deserve money,but at least treat them with kindness and respect.......Its hard to lose someone you love no matter where it is,but when it happens to you on TV in front of the world,that pain is there over and over in books and media venues.Why dont you just let the widows of all 911 be,show some compassion.
You missed the point entirely...........but then I would expect nothing less from my stalker.

econ, you are right on.
 

Steve

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And I just wish that real supporters of the military would support their troops by paying adequate compensation when the troops give their lives in combat. It is the least a society can do for the sacrifice.

total agreement.......

recent changes in the last few years...such as concurrent retirement pay for those with combat service has helped alot of disabled vets recieve not only the earned retirement, but also the disabled benifits........

it like the Reagen era pay increases had helped balance the sacrifice...
 

Econ101

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Steve said:
And I just wish that real supporters of the military would support their troops by paying adequate compensation when the troops give their lives in combat. It is the least a society can do for the sacrifice.

total agreement.......

recent changes in the last few years...such as concurrent retirement pay for those with combat service has helped alot of disabled vets recieve not only the earned retirement, but also the disabled benifits........

it like the Reagen era pay increases had helped balance the sacrifice...

Steve, do you know what your family's (assuming you had one) monetary compensation would have been if you didn't make it back?

Do you know what that compensation would be today?
 

Disagreeable

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Rush is right on this one. Right now a soldier can retire after 20 years service, draw half his basic pay for the rest of his life. He's usually young enough to go on and have a second career and, hopefully, another pension to supplement his retirement pay. Because half of an E7s pay is not enough to live on. Half of an E9s pay is pretty tough to live on today. Donald Runsfeld is considering changing that so the Military can't retire after 20 years, making them wait until they're 62 (I think) before they can draw their retirement pay. How effective do you think a 62 year old soldier will be in Iraq? That's one of the many reasons the career military men hate him.

But let's not forget that Rush never served his country. He's happy to tell us how the war in Iraq should be waged, but he hasn't even bothered to visit our troops over there!
 

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