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Russian "Security" Forces In The U.S.?

Mike

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As part of a deal signed last week in Washington DC between the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry and FEMA, Russian officials will provide “security at mass events” in the United States, a scenario that won’t sit well with Americans wary of foreign assets operating on US soil.

According to a press release by the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense and Emergencies, US and Russian officials met on June 25 at the 17th Joint U.S.-Russia Cooperation Committee on Emergency Situations.
In addition to agreeing with FEMA to “exchange experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters,” the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry will also be providing “security at mass events” in the United States.
This suggests that events designated as “National Special Security Events” by the Department of Homeland Security, which include the Super Bowl, international summits such as the G8 and presidential inaugurations, will now rely partly on Russian authorities to provide security.
The meeting last week also agreed on the conclusion that US and Russian emergency authorities will increase their co-operation, “in order to respond efficiently to all kinds of disasters.”
The use of foreign troops or other officials in a law enforcement capacity providing “security” inside the United States is illegal under Posse Comitatus. Capt. William Geddes of the U.S. Army Reserve acknowledged last year that it is against federal law to use US troops to conduct police patrols, despite the fact that such occurrences are becoming increasingly common. The use of foreign troops is an even more clear cut violation of Posse Comitatus.
Last year we reported on how Russian troops were invited to the US as part of a Fort Carson, Colorado drill focused around anti-terror training. Aside from learning how to target terrorists in America, the Russian soldiers were also out in the local community attending a baseball game in Colorado Springs.
As Mac Slavo writes, “Rumors have circulated for years about the possibility of foreign troops being deployed on U.S. soil in the event of a widespread declaration of a national emergency. For quite some time there have been anecdotal reports to support the claim that the U.N., Russia and other nations would be used in a policing capacity should some critical event befall our nation.”
“The fear should such a scenario take place has been that these soldiers would act under the banner of their own flags, ignoring the fundamental protections afforded to our citizens, leaving Americans under the jurisdiction of people who don’t speak our language or respect our fundamental rights to self defense, to be secure in our homes, and to be presumed innocent in the eyes of the law.”
Concerns about foreign troops being used on US soil have lingered ever since the release of State Department Publication 7277, which is a blueprint for the harmonization of US and Russian forces under a framework of United Nations-led global government.
Back in 2008 it was also reported that US and Canadian authorities had signed an agreement that would pave the way to using each other’s militaries on both sides of the border “during an emergency”.
Alex Jones has documented foreign troops being trained on U.S. soil to deal with “insurgents” since the late 1990′s as part of “urban warfare drills”.
Back in July 2010, our reporters covered the Operation Vigilant Guard exercises in Chicago which involved Polish troops training alongside U.S. National Guard troops in drills focused around raiding terrorists and drug dealers.
According to SFC Mark Ballard of the Illinois National Guard, the Polish forces were “integrating into some of the civil military units that are participating in this exercise” as part of Illinois’ partnership with the Republic of Poland, a relationship based around “integrative training” and blending military and civilian forces in the event of a national emergency, as well as making this process of integration with foreign troops more “visible”.
 

ANGUS327

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Must be a joke :lol: :lol: Mind you Russian soldiers would not have as many qualms about shooting unruley American's as say U.S. soldiers.
 

littlejoe

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ANGUS327 said:
Must be a joke :lol: :lol: Mind you Russian soldiers would not have as many qualms about shooting unruley American's as say U.S. soldiers.

In just one model----Remington 700---there's been over 5 million rifles sold----a dandy assortment of calibers----probably most owned by people who could fit the terms 'redneck', or 'patriot', who know their own backyards and home country, who figure you can never have too much ammo--------I mean, seriously---rooshians? a threat? Here?!----
 

Silver

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The use of foreign troops or other officials in a law enforcement capacity providing “security” inside the United States is illegal under Posse Comitatus

Call the police in Hyder, Alaska and see who shows up.
 

Steve

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Hyder is notable for being the only place in Alaska not to use the 907 area code, instead using British Columbia's 250.

the "preferred" currency is Canadian (except the U.S. Post Office, which accepts only American currency), observes Canadian holidays, send their children to a Canadian school,[10] and calling the police means a Royal Canadian Mounted Police will respond[citation needed]. Electricity comes from Canada, as the local electric utility is British Columbia's BC Hydro.

I would probably be a bit more likely to listen to a Canada officer then a Russian in an emergency situation... up until the RMCP started grabbing guns.. :?
 

Steve

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Usually when the first few sources are prison planet and info-wars.. i get a bit suspicious.. ok alot suspicious...

so I dug a bit deeper...

Several documents signed during joint work of Russian Emergency Ministry and FEMA rss
26 Jun

The Russian Emergency Situations Ministry and the USA Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) are going to exchange experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters. This is provided by a protocol of the fourth meeting of the U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission Working Group on Emergency Situations and seventeenth meeting of Joint U.S.-Russia Cooperation Committee on Emergency Situations, which took place in Washington on 25 June.

The document provides for expert cooperation in disaster response operations and to study the latest practices.

In addition, the parties approved of U.S.-Russian cooperation in this field in 2013-2014, which envisages exchange of experience including in monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.

At the end of the meeting the parties expressed their satisfaction with the level of cooperation between the Russian Federation and the United States in the area of emergency prevention and response and agreed to develop it in order to respond efficiently to all kinds of disasters.

Source: The Ministry of the Russian Federation for Affairs for Civil Defence, Emergencies and Elimination of Consequences of Natural Disasters or internationally as EMERCOM (derived from "Emergency Control Ministry" http://en.mchs.ru/news/item/434203/
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
I would probably be a bit more likely to listen to a Canada officer then a Russian in an emergency situation... up until the RMCP started grabbing guns.. :?

those must have been RCMP grabbing guns during Katrina... :wink:
 

Steve

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DENVER -- The Russians are coming – in fact, they're already here – but it may not be what you think.

Twenty-two Russian army paratroopers are in Colorado for two weeks of training with the 10th Special Forces Group at Fort Carson, a post outside Colorado Springs.

The two nations' militaries have been conducting joint exercises for years, but this is believed to be the first time Russian soldiers have trained on U.S. soil, Lt. Col. Steven Osterholzer said.

The Russians and Americans are training together on basic soldier skills ranging from firing weapons to making parachute drops, said Osterholzer, a public affairs officer for the 10th Special Forces Group.

It's the first step toward joint exercises in more complicated anti-terrorism operations such as helicopter drops, he said.

"This is the shake-hands, get-to-know-you kind of thing," Osterholzer said. "What this is not is a massive counterterrorism exercise."

The training is the result of a U.S.-Russian agreement signed a year ago. The objectives are to create a basic relationship between the two nations' militaries and to build an understanding about how each other's military works, including communications, Osterholzer said.

That knowledge is vital in joint military and humanitarian operations such as anti-terrorism measures and disaster relief, he said.

The Russians are staying in a military hotel on Fort Carson but otherwise spend their on-duty and off-duty time with their American counterparts. They'll also take in a baseball game, watching the Colorado Springs Sky Sox, a minor-league affiliate of the Colorado Rockies.

Next year, an equal number of U.S. soldiers from 10th Special Forces Group are expected to go to Russia for similar exercises, Osterholzer said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/us-russian-soldiers-train_n_1525502.html

so basically the facts are true.. :?
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
I would probably be a bit more likely to listen to a Canada officer then a Russian in an emergency situation... up until the RMCP started grabbing guns.. :?

those must have been RCMP grabbing guns during Katrina... :wink:

I didn't think so,.. but then again,... someone had to "train" the other in disaster assistance...

it looks like we are now getting "expert" training form the Russians...


who better to learn from in how to disarm your citizens,... but the guys who did it so well... ?

Here’s a history of what happens after governments have disarmed their citizens:

1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.

1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.

1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.

1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews.

1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.
 
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