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School budgets.....

MsSage

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I thought I best put this here......Charlotte_Mecklenburg just relased its budget for next year. They ~the School Board~ are asking for 1.26 BILLION. Yes I said BILLION ......Have I gone crazy or have I gotten old ....I feel that is obscene. If you need that much money to cover cost then you are too BIG. There has been a movement to break the school up to 2 maybe 3 smaller districts but they get shot down by the school board....
:shock: :shock: :shock: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

koj

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We are having a similar problem here at Omaha Public Schools. OPS District wants to take over all of the city districts (One City One School). There is a huge battle going on, it is now on the senate floor to break OPS into three districts. This would thoroughly segregate the entire school population into basically the African American, the Hispanic, and the White school districts. The guy that came up with this plan is completely off his rocker. If this passes the senate, the federal gov't is going to step in and OPS will be in a giant @!#$ storm.
 

Disagreeable

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MsSage said:
I thought I best put this here......Charlotte_Mecklenburg just relased its budget for next year. They ~the School Board~ are asking for 1.26 BILLION. Yes I said BILLION ......Have I gone crazy or have I gotten old ....I feel that is obscene. If you need that much money to cover cost then you are too BIG. There has been a movement to break the school up to 2 maybe 3 smaller districts but they get shot down by the school board....
:shock: :shock: :shock: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Are you saying it would be cheaper to run three districts? More superintendents, secretaries, coaches, special ed and music teachers? More buildings, buses?
 

the chief

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MsSage said:
I thought I best put this here......Charlotte_Mecklenburg just relased its budget for next year. They ~the School Board~ are asking for 1.26 BILLION. Yes I said BILLION ......Have I gone crazy or have I gotten old ....I feel that is obscene. If you need that much money to cover cost then you are too BIG. There has been a movement to break the school up to 2 maybe 3 smaller districts but they get shot down by the school board....
:shock: :shock: :shock: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I suggest you run for the school board. Everyone should HAVE to do it once. :)

Perhaps you are unaware of the UNFUNDED federal and state mandates that each district has to pay for. When the fed and state govt. promise certain percentages to cover certain costs, they re-nig on their promises and come in at about half of what they promised. Guess who gets stuck with the rest.
Have you ever paid for the education of a special needs student? That is a huge cost.
there is more to a school district budget than meets the eye. Get involved and get educated. You might be alarmed.

Have a great day.
 

T3023

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MsSage said:
I thought I best put this here......Charlotte_Mecklenburg just relased its budget for next year. They ~the School Board~ are asking for 1.26 BILLION. Yes I said BILLION ......Have I gone crazy or have I gotten old ....I feel that is obscene. If you need that much money to cover cost then you are too BIG. There has been a movement to break the school up to 2 maybe 3 smaller districts but they get shot down by the school board....
:shock: :shock: :shock: :mad: :mad: :mad:



This budget is a Federal Program, which means the federal DD (dumbing down the students) taking away their books and using computers for all their work. We need to get back to the one room school house, in other words, public governed school system. The feds control the books and they tell the state and county what to do. So eliminate federal funding.

1.26 BILLION is Federal Monies.



Three Words
"Crisis, Reaction, Solution"
 

theHiredMansWife

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BTW, I don't know about North Carolina, but I'm going to guess that rather like Nebraska, they are not getting all of their money from the feds, nor do the feds dictate books, curricula, etc.
 

T3023

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theHiredMansWife said:
BTW, I don't know about North Carolina, but I'm going to guess that rather like Nebraska, they are not getting all of their money from the feds, nor do the feds dictate books, curricula, etc.



The "No child left Behind" testing criteria is not written by teachers. They are written, and graded by NATO.



Revolution in Education — Soviet Style


Three years later, in 1974, Leon Lessinger, superintendent of schools in Beverly Hills, California and former associate commissioner of education in the U.S. Office of Education, called for the implementation of Skinnerian behavior modification and discussed environmental influence
when he said: “…Would that we had such a system; a system of accountability.” Lessinger went on to recommend “Use of contingency rewards. May make you feel uncomfortable… Does me, but he who shirks this responsibility does a disservice to the children of the United States. Behavior Modification is here. Better for us to master and use wisely. Powerful … powerful…powerful.”

Fast forward eight years to the Annual Meeting of the Council of Chief State School Officers in 1982, during which Dr. Elam Hertzler, Secretary of Education T. H. Bell’s top assistant in the U.S. Department of Education, told the State Superintendents
of Instruction:

“One of the elements of an effective school was to monitor, assess, and feed back . . . As little as 5 percent of a school budget K-12 would be needed over a period of 12 years to enable each student to have his own computer, and this is within our cost range.” As indicated above, this plan to get rid of textbooks and implement Pavlovian/ Skinnerian computerized instruction has been on the drawing board for many years just like everything else in "the deliberate dumbing down" of our schools.

This is the education (training) system for "The Brave New World Order", the system which denies "free will" and will assure that your child no longer receives a traditional academic education, but that he be "trained" with rewards and punishments to be a docile, accepting, non-thinking, atheistic "performer" (robot) in Lenin's International Socialist System, euphemistically referred to by our controlled media as “democratic socialism” which is being implemented, world region by world region, as I write.

The admission by Empire High School, one of the first schools to implement this textbook-free schooling, allows education researchers who have focused on the dangers of the Skinnerian behaviorist method to finally be listened to. The old saying applies here: "You'll know it's true when
it happens to you."

Now that parents will be faced with their children learning exclusively from computers, which are operant conditioning (attitude and value-changing machines), perhaps they will be willing to listen to those teachers and education researchers who have been issuing warnings ever since the early eighties when the Skinner method and the proposed use of computer technology was carved in stone by the Reagan Administration's Department of Education, commencing with The National Commission on Excellence's Nation At Risk Report; continuing with its major computer technology initiative, Project BEST: Basic Education Skills Through Technology, the infamous 1984 Utah grant to Professor William Spady to pilot outcomes-based education in Utah and then to “put it in all schools of the nation;” and ultimately with the Bush Administration's support for Skinnerian Direct Instruction to teach reading.

The No Child Left Behind Act virtually mandated the “scientific research based” Skinner reading method be used in the classrooms of our nation, to the exclusion of other non-behaviorist methods of reading instruction which have successfully taught children to read for over one hundred years.
 

CattleRMe

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School budgets are such a hot topic. In rural areas there is a need for the schools so the ranching area can survive in the future years. However I can see where the people back east are horrified to see that it costs over a hundred thousand to educate say 3 children. However my solution to this is to invite them out here let them drive the roads we do and the time it would take to transport them to town to school.
 

T3023

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Here's our new school systems agenda at work. Now they are beginning to educate and condition our students of their future and there will be nothing wrong with spychipping. Condition them to accept the NWO now!


WOW. IT JUST GETS SCARIER AND SCARIER. Here's a New York Times lesson plan to teach middle-schoolers and high-schoolers about RFID people-tracking technologies. It begins with students "sharing opinions" about spychipping humans. But notice that from there on, the only "opinions" allowed are entirely pro-RFID. After expressing their presumably glowing endorsements of universal surveillance, our kidlets are asked to spend the rest of their time brainstorming new ways to track themselves -- and the rest of us.

Who comes up with this stuff? And where does the NYT get off calling this propaganda "education"?
 

MsSage

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1.26 BILLION is Federal Monies.
NO this is the MONEY they are asking from the County Commissioners. They already have the Fed money...that is set up basised on amount of children recieving free & reduced lunch. My school is over 98% free & reduced is why we are classiifided as equity plus. We are suppose to have smaller class size LOL no more than 16 3rd -5th graders in a class. Our smallest class is 22.


Have you ever paid for the education of a special needs student?
You have NO clue........I have had to pay for testing,tutoring,and FIGHT to get my son tested to be placed into the "Exceptional Children" Yes I know PC. Morgan has a form of dyslexia I had been told all the way up to 3rd grade he was a left handed boy who would never catch up and needed coping skills NOT extra time in learning how to read. This is a child who at 3 taught himself to play chess on the computer,BUT could not put 2 words together. At the start of 4th grade he was tested and his reading level was at a grade level of 1.6 his math was off the test. They only went up to 12th grade level trig.
Since recieving extra time in reading he is now up to 4.5-5.2 .
Most of my students have some form of Learning disablity,I have to deal with the legislation of NCLB everyday. I see everyday and have to "dumb" down the material I am given from the state. I know I have to go to my kids level and bring them up to where they can pass the state test. Yes NC now has a Science test 5th graders have to pass in order to move up to 6th grade.

I suggest you run for the school board. Everyone should HAVE to do it once.
NO THANK YOU I worked on too many champiagns to ever think of running myself. I cant stand the "dog & pony" show all the double talk. I am tooo straight forward and speak my mind.
 

nonothing

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I understand schooling has high costs....In canada its a known fact that to make things work,we rely on a volunteer system....Our coaches,reffs and transportation to games is well,almost 100% volunteer(teachers and parents) at the school level.....I hear mothers now help in class rooms,for they are just to full for one teacher to follow all the children,on a dailly one to one basis...All coaching outside of the schools is also in most cases volunteer..Cross walk attendants,for elmentry school are volunteer elderly folks...Parents work hard together to make their childs school fun.....and it may not be the topic here but we dont have marching bands or big football programs here that suck money out......all of those things are parent funded and voluteerly looked after...if my son or daughter want to play sports i better be perpared to coach...I must say though i applaud teachers for thier continuing to look out for the students no matter how bad it gets......and it can get pretty frustrating to teach,when there are so many obsticles to push through everyday,from class size to not enough books or desks........not to mention some pretty crummy home lives kids can come from......
 

Steve

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They ~the School Board~ are asking for 1.26 BILLION. Yes I said BILLION ......Have I gone crazy


what is the per student cost?

is this for K-12?

our K-8, program costs about lower so it offsets the higher 9-12....

plus the tech school which has a great per student cost is "added in"...making the total district cost high when in reality we have a few poor schools sucking the others dry...

Special ed is seperate as well as the tech school, but to get the per cost per student lower they lump the cost effective schools with the lousey performing school to make the per student cost seem less obscene....
and even doing that we still have one of the highest cost per student high schools in the state, with the lowest grad rate and test scores....
 
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