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Secrets

Bill

Well-known member
Secrets
Colorado Springs, CO Aug. 25, 2006

In 30 years of attending cattlemen’s meetings, including NCBA and its predecessors, USMEF, state associations and beef councils, I don’t ever recall being asked to leave a meeting, unless a personnel matter was to be discussed.

So what is so secret that the Organization for Competitive Markets (OCM) doesn’t want you to know about? You see, the OCM would not allow me to sit in on their membership business session, only their speaker session at this year’s annual meeting.

OCM has been closely allied with lawsuits against packers, with legislation to ban contracting of livestock with packers, bans against packer ownership cattle – which would hamper or destroy many branded beef programs and alliances. They’ve also worked hand-in-glove with R-CALF and LMA on many issues.

In fact, a recent OCM newsletter revealed that OCM has turned over their own checkoff program, the Cattlemen’s Competitive Market Project (CCMP), to R-CALF. The CCMP program, we assume, is what R-CALF has in mind in attempting to “reform” the national beef checkoff so that someone who pays into another checkoff – presumably the CCMP – would be exempt from paying the national beef checkoff. They want to divert funds from the existing state beef councils and the Cattlemen’s Beef Board.

OCM came out this winter supporting the legislation that would have prohibited cattlemen from contracting livestock to packers. They’ve opposed packers owning livestock, claiming market manipulation. In fact, their past promotional material has demonstrated hairsplitting only a lawyer could love. They claim not to oppose alliances or branded programs – many of which involve cow-calf operators, feeders, packers and retailers owning cattle together – but oppose cattlemen contracting with “existing packers.” Question: How many cattle can you slaughter before you turn into an “existing” packer from a what – virgin packer?

They also oppose free trade and corporate involvement in agriculture, at either the production end or processing end. They support COOL and R- CALF’s border closure efforts against Canada. They can’t, however, be happy with the results of their packer lawsuit program.

So the directions they’re heading can’t be too secret. We assume they don’t want to tip their strategies in hijacking the 2007 Farm Bill, to use a word they favor. What their political strategy will be, and what congressmen and senators will be involved, may be the cards they want to keep close to the vest. But we’ve all seen which legislators vote for more restrictions on free enterprise and more government control over the food-production chain. The recent Death Tax votes reminded us again.

They might also not want people to know how much money they receive from left-leaning social activist foundations who do not like mainstream American agriculture.

We’ll talk more about OCM’s philosophies, tactics and allies in future issues. For now, to tease some of the thought processes revealed at their recent annual meeting, we would pose some questions for you to noodle. Is “food different?” Is food a privilege or a right? Should economics determine farm policy or should social policy drive farm policy?

In any event, the people who routinely charge that collusion, conspiracy and manipulation are the heart of what is “wrong” with mainstream American agriculture certainly don’t hold the open membership meetings like the organizations they make fun of do.



The Agribusiness Freedom Foundation promotes free market principles throughout the agricultural food chain. The AFF believes it is possible to value the traditions and heritage of the past while embracing the future and the changes it brings. The AFF is a communications and educational initiative striving to preserve the freedom of the agricultural food chain to operate and innovate in order to continue the success of American agriculture.

The AFF - freedom watchdog for American agriculture.



Agribusiness Freedom Foundation
AFF: Promoting free market principles throughout the agricultural food chain.

Website: http://www.agribusinessfreedom.org
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
hey ranchand looks like OCM had a chance to ask him but kicked him out.

In all fairness we do have in camera sessions for members only if only to ask if their are concerns of a personal nature. or in talking wages for employees ect.
 

ocm

Well-known member
Bill said:
Secrets
Colorado Springs, CO Aug. 25, 2006

In 30 years of attending cattlemen’s meetings, including NCBA and its predecessors, USMEF, state associations and beef councils, I don’t ever recall being asked to leave a meeting, unless a personnel matter was to be discussed.

So what is so secret that the Organization for Competitive Markets (OCM) doesn’t want you to know about? You see, the OCM would not allow me to sit in on their membership business session, only their speaker session at this year’s annual meeting.

OCM has been closely allied with lawsuits against packers, with legislation to ban contracting of livestock with packers, bans against packer ownership cattle – which would hamper or destroy many branded beef programs and alliances. They’ve also worked hand-in-glove with R-CALF and LMA on many issues.

In fact, a recent OCM newsletter revealed that OCM has turned over their own checkoff program, the Cattlemen’s Competitive Market Project (CCMP), to R-CALF. The CCMP program, we assume, is what R-CALF has in mind in attempting to “reform” the national beef checkoff so that someone who pays into another checkoff – presumably the CCMP – would be exempt from paying the national beef checkoff. They want to divert funds from the existing state beef councils and the Cattlemen’s Beef Board.

OCM came out this winter supporting the legislation that would have prohibited cattlemen from contracting livestock to packers. They’ve opposed packers owning livestock, claiming market manipulation. In fact, their past promotional material has demonstrated hairsplitting only a lawyer could love. They claim not to oppose alliances or branded programs – many of which involve cow-calf operators, feeders, packers and retailers owning cattle together – but oppose cattlemen contracting with “existing packers.” Question: How many cattle can you slaughter before you turn into an “existing” packer from a what – virgin packer?

They also oppose free trade and corporate involvement in agriculture, at either the production end or processing end. They support COOL and R- CALF’s border closure efforts against Canada. They can’t, however, be happy with the results of their packer lawsuit program.

So the directions they’re heading can’t be too secret. We assume they don’t want to tip their strategies in hijacking the 2007 Farm Bill, to use a word they favor. What their political strategy will be, and what congressmen and senators will be involved, may be the cards they want to keep close to the vest. But we’ve all seen which legislators vote for more restrictions on free enterprise and more government control over the food-production chain. The recent Death Tax votes reminded us again.

They might also not want people to know how much money they receive from left-leaning social activist foundations who do not like mainstream American agriculture.

We’ll talk more about OCM’s philosophies, tactics and allies in future issues. For now, to tease some of the thought processes revealed at their recent annual meeting, we would pose some questions for you to noodle. Is “food different?” Is food a privilege or a right? Should economics determine farm policy or should social policy drive farm policy?

In any event, the people who routinely charge that collusion, conspiracy and manipulation are the heart of what is “wrong” with mainstream American agriculture certainly don’t hold the open membership meetings like the organizations they make fun of do.



The Agribusiness Freedom Foundation promotes free market principles throughout the agricultural food chain. The AFF believes it is possible to value the traditions and heritage of the past while embracing the future and the changes it brings. The AFF is a communications and educational initiative striving to preserve the freedom of the agricultural food chain to operate and innovate in order to continue the success of American agriculture.

The AFF - freedom watchdog for American agriculture.



Agribusiness Freedom Foundation
AFF: Promoting free market principles throughout the agricultural food chain.

Website: http://www.agribusinessfreedom.org

Dittmer has printed outright lies about OCM. At a meeting I was at in Aug 05, there was much material presented that would have contradicted what Dittmer has repeatedly said about OCM and its (supposedly) anti-beef liberal point of view. He had travelled over 500 miles to attend that meeting, then never even mentioned it.

His bias is so blatant it's amazing they still let him in the open meeting. Then he conplains about not being permitted to attend a membership only business session.

He's a hypocrite.

I am also quite familiar with CCMP and the reasons for it and the reasons OCM is turning it over to R-CALF. Dittmer is way way way off base.



And he still hasn't ever mentioned NCBA's partnership with the Nature Conservancy, an enemy of property rights.
 

Bill

Well-known member
:lol: :lol: :lol: Looks like Dittmer nailed it once again!

In fact, a recent OCM newsletter revealed that OCM has turned over their own checkoff program, the Cattlemen’s Competitive Market Project (CCMP), to R-CALF. The CCMP program, we assume, is what R-CALF has in mind in attempting to “reform” the national beef checkoff so that someone who pays into another checkoff – presumably the CCMP – would be exempt from paying the national beef checkoff. They want to divert funds from the existing state beef councils and the Cattlemen’s Beef Board.

Checkoff dollars either go to promote beef through traditional channels or to fund R-Calf? Or maybe R-Calf could start its own branded beef program. Hmmmm, I wonder who will do the harvesting for them? :lol:
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Bill said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Looks like Dittmer nailed it once again!

In fact, a recent OCM newsletter revealed that OCM has turned over their own checkoff program, the Cattlemen’s Competitive Market Project (CCMP), to R-CALF. The CCMP program, we assume, is what R-CALF has in mind in attempting to “reform” the national beef checkoff so that someone who pays into another checkoff – presumably the CCMP – would be exempt from paying the national beef checkoff. They want to divert funds from the existing state beef councils and the Cattlemen’s Beef Board.

Checkoff dollars either go to promote beef through traditional channels or to fund R-Calf? Or maybe R-Calf could start its own branded beef program. Hmmmm, I wonder who will do the harvesting for them? :lol:

Where does it say anything about funding R-CALF? Please highlight or cut it out for us.

Dittmer, "The CCMP program, we assume, is what R-CALF...."

A classic example of what happens when you ass-u-me! What a clown.....
 

ocm

Well-known member
Bill said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Looks like Dittmer nailed it once again!

In fact, a recent OCM newsletter revealed that OCM has turned over their own checkoff program, the Cattlemen’s Competitive Market Project (CCMP), to R-CALF. The CCMP program, we assume, is what R-CALF has in mind in attempting to “reform” the national beef checkoff so that someone who pays into another checkoff – presumably the CCMP – would be exempt from paying the national beef checkoff. They want to divert funds from the existing state beef councils and the Cattlemen’s Beef Board.

Checkoff dollars either go to promote beef through traditional channels or to fund R-Calf? Or maybe R-Calf could start its own branded beef program. Hmmmm, I wonder who will do the harvesting for them? :lol:


CCMP is NOT related to the Beef Checkoff. Dittmer is spreading disinformation. The Cattlemen's Beef Board has nothing to do with CCMP. CCMP was begun to address competition issues only, nothing else.

Bill, when you take what Dittmer says at face value, you will move further from the truth.

Unlike the checkoff CCMP was set up as a fund raising program that is VOLUNTARY. That is its greatest feature. Nobody is now nor ever will be compelled to contribute one dime unless they want to. Is R-CALF permitted to acept VOLUNTARY contributions?? I would hope so.

You see how Dittmer's deliberate omission of facts skews his story??
 

Bill

Well-known member
ocm said:
Bill said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Looks like Dittmer nailed it once again!

In fact, a recent OCM newsletter revealed that OCM has turned over their own checkoff program, the Cattlemen’s Competitive Market Project (CCMP), to R-CALF. The CCMP program, we assume, is what R-CALF has in mind in attempting to “reform” the national beef checkoff so that someone who pays into another checkoff – presumably the CCMP – would be exempt from paying the national beef checkoff. They want to divert funds from the existing state beef councils and the Cattlemen’s Beef Board.

Checkoff dollars either go to promote beef through traditional channels or to fund R-Calf? Or maybe R-Calf could start its own branded beef program. Hmmmm, I wonder who will do the harvesting for them? :lol:


CCMP is NOT related to the Beef Checkoff. Dittmer is spreading disinformation. The Cattlemen's Beef Board has nothing to do with CCMP. CCMP was begun to address competition issues only, nothing else.

Bill, when you take what Dittmer says at face value, you will move further from the truth.

Unlike the checkoff CCMP was set up as a fund raising program that is VOLUNTARY. That is its greatest feature. Nobody is now nor ever will be compelled to contribute one dime unless they want to. Is R-CALF permitted to acept VOLUNTARY contributions?? I would hope so.

You see how Dittmer's deliberate omission of facts skews his story??

Do you mean like the R-Klowns and the way they pick and choose what they say or put in print about Canada?
 

the chief

Well-known member
ONCE AGAIN, Many of us were challenged to EMAIL Dittmer and ask him questions about AFF. I did, very politely, ask about his "wonderful" organization and how could I get more info about it, such as his fellow officers, directors and financial supporters. :wink:

GUESS WHAT, Bill and other "cultists of AFF", he NEVER responded. It has been six (6) months now and NO answer. Evidently he has a real backlog on his email account to filter throught the THOUSANDS of supporters before he gets to my letter. Aw, the problems of success and a huge following. :roll:

Do us all a favor, BILL, if you bring up this phony's name again, bring along a list of directors, financial backers and office help. Otherwise, DON"T BOTHER! :mad:
 

HAY MAKER

Well-known member
the chief said:
ONCE AGAIN, Many of us were challenged to EMAIL Dittmer and ask him questions about AFF. I did, very politely, ask about his "wonderful" organization and how could I get more info about it, such as his fellow officers, directors and financial supporters. :wink:

GUESS WHAT, Bill and other "cultists of AFF", he NEVER responded. It has been six (6) months now and NO answer. Evidently he has a real backlog on his email account to filter throught the THOUSANDS of supporters before he gets to my letter. Aw, the problems of success and a huge following. :roll:

Do us all a favor, BILL, if you bring up this phony's name again, bring along a list of directors, financial backers and office help. Otherwise, DON"T BOTHER! :mad:

And one more favor,bill slow down on your cheap insults,it only proves you have no class...........good luck
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Bill doesn't care if the guy is a phony, paid for, tells the truth or gets his information from eating peyote and consulting the spirits. All that matters to him is that Dittmer is an R-CALF basher.

I think it's halarious that OCM showed that clown the door. Him crying about it is like David Duke whining about being asked to leave a NAACP meeting.
 

Bill

Well-known member
I have no personal opinion either way on Dittmer but it sure fires up the R-Klowns who seem to hate getting beat by someone who plays the innuendo game as well or better than them. :lol: :lol:

It's alright for them to say whatever they want regarding Canada but God forbid anyone do the same thing to them!
 
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