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Senator To Hold Hearings On Canadian Border Rule

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Anonymous

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DORGAN TO HOLD SENATE FIELD HEARING TO INVESTIGATE USDA PUSH TO RESUME CANADIAN BEEF IMPORTS IN WAKE OF NINTH CASE OF MAD COW DISEASE IN CANADA

(WASHINGTON, D.C.) --- U.S. Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) said Friday the report that a ninth case of mad cow disease has been confirmed in Canada is a clear sign that the U.S. Department of Agriculture needs to slow its effort to re-open the U.S. market to Canadian beef. Dorgan said he will convene a U.S. Senate field hearing in North Dakota later this month to probe the issue.

Dorgan, Chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Interstate Commerce, Trade and Tourism, said the Administration has based its push to re-open the border to Canadian beef on politics, not sound science. He said he believes ranchers should have a voice in this matter and he will chair the hearing in Bismarck on February 21 to take testimony from ranchers and other interested parties.

"Yesterday's report that another Canadian animal has tested positive for mad cow disease is disturbing," Dorgan said. "The USDA has no business opening our borders to Canadian beef before implementing a country-of-origin labeling system that will allow consumers to see where the steak on their dinner plate came from. I'll be organizing a Senate hearing in North Dakota to get to the bottom of this issue and I'll keep pushing USDA to approach this issue with science, not politics, in mind."

Last week, Dorgan led a bipartisan group of senators in a letter to Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns calling for a halt to the push to open the U.S. market to Canadian beef. In the letter, Dorgan said such a move would be especially outrageous given USDA's foot-dragging in the implementation of country-of-origin labeling.
 

Bill

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Finding it hard to hold onto that greased rope Oldtimer? Needing a little anger management? Pretty soon you will have the whole article in bold type!

:roll:
 

mwj

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Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from :roll: I would think a senator from Montana would be a better choice to hold a hearing since they get a lot of free info from there producers to use. They could maybe get one of there Billings based cattle groups to fact find and it would hold down the cost to the taxpayers :lol:
 

Bill

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mwj said:
Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from :roll: I would think a senator from Montana would be a better choice to hold a hearing since they get a lot of free info from there producers to use. They could maybe get one of there Billings based cattle groups to fact find and it would hold down the cost to the taxpayers :lol:

Oh I am sure Deputy Dick will be adding to the free info (bs) pile.

This is little more than political grandstanding from the hinterland in hopes that it will play well with his electorate.

It is interesting that someone who is anti-trade between countries is chair of the subcommittee on InterSTATE commerce, trade and tourism! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Sandhusker

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mwj said:
Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from :roll: I would think a senator from Montana would be a better choice to hold a hearing since they get a lot of free info from there producers to use. They could maybe get one of there Billings based cattle groups to fact find and it would hold down the cost to the taxpayers :lol:

This coming from the state Mel Reynolds was from? :lol: :lol:

Is he out of jail yet? He was probably happy as a lark there with all the man love he got. Maybe he moved on to San Francisco?
 

mwj

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Sandhusker said:
mwj said:
Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from :roll: I would think a senator from Montana would be a better choice to hold a hearing since they get a lot of free info from there producers to use. They could maybe get one of there Billings based cattle groups to fact find and it would hold down the cost to the taxpayers :lol:

This coming from the state Mel Reynolds was from? :lol: :lol:

Is he out of jail yet? He was probably happy as a lark there with all the man love he got. Maybe he moved on to San Francisco?

So I take this to mean you have no opinion on the orig. post but do have an opinion on ''man love'' :shock: Maybe you could post a ''man love'' poll. I am sure Hay Maker could help you as he seem's good at setting up poll's :wink:
 

Kato

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Senator Dorgan has made a lifetime's work out of stopping trade with Canada. At least goods coming FROM Canada, not TO Canada.

The cities of Grand Forks, Fargo and Minot benefit a lot from Canadian visitors. Thats OK. It's OK to buy things in North Dakota, but boy, you'd better not try and sell something there!!!!

If he didn't get on his high horse and jump all over rule 2, I'd be surprised. :shock: It would be totally out of character.
 

mrj

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I heard comment on radio a few nights ago re. the lobbying jobs of the wives of Senators Dorgan and Conrad.

Something was said to the effect that a new 'super strict' lobbyist control law or rule by the dems......and that they were trying to figure out how to write it so it would not affect one of the wives. Something about the length of time she had been in that job.

Sure makes one wonder just what group or industry those 'girls' lobby for.

Nasty old money is ok for dems' I guess.

Sorry to muddy up this with politics, but the Senators name triggered the recall of it and I really do wonder what the lobbying cause is and how it 'might' influence the senator, so is sort of relevant to the post/thread.

MRJ
 

Econ101

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MRJ said:
I heard comment on radio a few nights ago re. the lobbying jobs of the wives of Senators Dorgan and Conrad.

Something was said to the effect that a new 'super strict' lobbyist control law or rule by the dems......and that they were trying to figure out how to write it so it would not affect one of the wives. Something about the length of time she had been in that job.

Sure makes one wonder just what group or industry those 'girls' lobby for.

Nasty old money is ok for dems' I guess.

Sorry to muddy up this with politics, but the Senators name triggered the recall of it and I really do wonder what the lobbying cause is and how it 'might' influence the senator, so is sort of relevant to the post/thread.

MRJ

What is the lobbyist group they work for MRJ?

I too have heard of this exemption of the new rules.[/quote]
 

Tam

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Econ101 said:
MRJ said:
I heard comment on radio a few nights ago re. the lobbying jobs of the wives of Senators Dorgan and Conrad.

Something was said to the effect that a new 'super strict' lobbyist control law or rule by the dems......and that they were trying to figure out how to write it so it would not affect one of the wives. Something about the length of time she had been in that job.

Sure makes one wonder just what group or industry those 'girls' lobby for.

Nasty old money is ok for dems' I guess.

Sorry to muddy up this with politics, but the Senators name triggered the recall of it and I really do wonder what the lobbying cause is and how it 'might' influence the senator, so is sort of relevant to the post/thread.

MRJ[/quote

What is the lobbyist group they work for MRJ?

I too have heard of this exemption of the new rules.

Gee do you think maybe MRJ doesn't know and that is why she is wondering??? :roll:
 

Big Muddy rancher

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One quick Google search.

By Geoff Earle
Linda Daschle will start lobbying the Senate for corporate clients in January, when husband Sen. Tom Daschle’s term expires.

A lobbyist with Baker Donelson Bearman & Caldwell, she recused herself from lobbying at the chamber, where her husband has served for 18 years.

Senate insiders say Linda Daschle will remain a major lobbying force, owing to her long career dealing with aviation issues and her familiarity with most senators.

“She’s always been a powerhouse,” said Sen. Tim Johnson (D-S.D.).

Tension remains between Senate Republicans and Sen. Daschle since his defeat by former Rep. John Thune (R-S.D.).

Republicans consider Daschle the architect of Democratic efforts to block conservative judges and policy. Democrats fault Republicans for unprecedented efforts to dethrone their leader.

How might lingering animosity affect Daschle’s lobbying? Sen. Robert Bennett (R-Utah) said, “I think initially, a Republican might be more reluctant to respond to her rather than someone to whom they’ve built rapport and a relationship. If she wants to start attending Republican Senatorial Committee functions, we’d be happy to see her.”

The National Republican Senatorial Committee spent millions of dollars helping to unseat Sen. Daschle. The Thune campaign made Linda Daschle’s lobbying an issue, running ads that faulted Sen. Daschle for “personally profiting” from her
pharmaceutical-industry clients. Daschle campaign aides were outraged, as Thune had set up a lobbying shop and worked at Arent Fox.

Linda Daschle said, “The Republicans had been trying to make me an issue in Tom’s race. The campaign is behind us. I’m looking forward, as is Tom.”

Few doubt Daschle’s ability to gain entrée to Senate Democrats for her clients. But in an interview, Daschle stressed her career accomplishments rather than her Senate ties.

“Yes, I’m familiar with particularly the Democratic senators and their families,” she said. “It will be a new endeavor on my part.” She is considered close with Sens. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) and Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.).

Of her husband’s successor, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Linda Daschle said, “I consider him a friend, and I look forward to working with him. Harry will make his own decisions.”

She is unlikely to deal with Thune, she said, as she has “not worked South Dakota issues in the past” and doesn’t know if she will in the future.

She denied a rumor that she and her husband considered opening a joint lobbying practice when he pondered retiring more than a year ago. “We will certainly work together,” she said, “but I don’t see us joining together on public-policy practices.”

They would work to assist the National Organization on Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, a group Sen. Daschle helped to found and for which Linda Daschle sits on the board, and on American Indian issues.

Linda Daschle’s biggest clients include Northwest Airlines and American Airlines, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, the American Association of Airport Executives and the City of Cleveland/Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.

Their issues will put her in contact with Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), head of the Commerce Committee’s Aviation Subcommittee. Lott and Sen. Daschle fought when they were their parties’ Senate leaders but maintain personal ties.

Asked whether she could work with Lott — who spearheaded the “obstructionist” charge against her husband, Linda Daschle replied, “We’ll just take it one day at a time.”

Other Senate spouses also have careers that put them in the political-affairs arena.

Sen. Kent Conrad’s wife, Lucy Calautti, lobbies on behalf of Major League Baseball.

Kim Dorgan heads the congressional-affairs office of the American Council of Life Insurers.

After receiving press scrutiny for the lobbying of his son, Key, and his son-in-law, Reid forbade family members from contacting his Senate staffs and proposed changing the Senate ethics manual to restrict lobbying by Senate family members. That increased scrutiny of other family members who lobby for a living.

Linda Daschle declined to criticize Reid for that. “Harry … obviously made some decisions,” she said, “I had to decide how I wanted to handle mine. I had decided that from the very beginning … I would not lobby Tom, I would not lobby his committees — and when he became leader, I decided not to lobby the Senate.”

Several looming policy debates are likely to bring Linda Daschle to the Senate soon: war risk insurance, fuel taxes and airport security fees.
 
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I have always wondered how Mary Matlin and James Carville could stay married-- but they say they don't talk politics at home and don't let each other influence their work... :roll:
 

Tam

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Got to admit though hiring a Senator's spouse to lobby for you is good. :wink:

Only people better would be their lovers. No known ties and a juicy secret to hold over the good Senators head if he/she doesn't vote your way. :wink:

America at it's finest. :wink:
 

fedup2

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mwj writes: [Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from :roll: ]

Tell me mwj, what does it say to you? Your only agenda on this forum seems to be your obsession with R-Calf. I mostly skip over your posts as they seldom bring any information to this forum. Mostly bad-mouthing or ridiculing anything R-Calf. If you have ever shared anything but your opinion with this forum, I apologize as I have missed it! Now is your chance to share some information. Tell me what your statement ‘says a lot’ about?

As far as Conrad & Dorgan, I can count on my hands, the number of democrats that I have voted for in my life time. I have never failed to vote for both of these men. Part of their job is to represent their home state & they do that damn well! They will vote against their own party if they don’t believe in their position.

Kato writes: [Senator Dorgan has made a lifetime's work out of stopping trade with Canada]
ND is an agricultural state. No matter what our opinion of fair trade is, Canadian imports hurt this state. The study that the USDA did showed the millions that would be lost by producers when Canadian cull cattle are allowed into this country. As elected officials, it is their job to try and protect the economy of this state. If they didn’t, they would be gone tomorrow.

Tam writes: [America at it's finest :wink: ] Ya know Tam, there is an old saying about keeping ones mouth shut and being thought of as a fool or opening your mouth and proving it. Your constant bad mouthing of this country keeps proving to me time after time of what your choice was!
 

mwj

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Fedup it's a little bit more than poking sticks at r-calf :D I guess when I sell cattle the only thing that much matters is if I made enough to pay the bills. If any other group came here and spread the kind of crap about unsafe beef that your pet group does I might have some questions also. Check some of the half truths posted by the cheerleaders and tell me how it does anything but change the consumers over to pork and chicken! If the vocal suporters of r-calf can have a say I would guess I get mine to :wink: Does it bother you that an american producer has the view that they are not looking out for anything other than the money coming in. If you do not read my posts I will tell you as I tell others do not reply and save yourself some time. If you did not see my reply as a little ''poke'' at OT the answer man maybe you should slow down a bit when you read :roll:
 

fedup2

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Mwj, The question was what you meant by this statement. [Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from] I asked you what you meant by ‘it says a lot’. Again, instead of your usual BS, please explain? You made the statement, I just want to understand what you are trying to say! What about the state the senator is from? :???:

You also state “your pet group”! Do you want to tell me who my pet group is? That was a typical response from a factually weak person mwj! You had to go the “Label” route. That tells me you opened your mouth when you didn’t have a damn thing to say! It is so convenient for some on this forum to label people. That way they never have to deal with issues or posts individually. Just say, “you damn R-Calfers, packer blamers, blah blah blah! :roll: :roll: :roll:

I do not now, nor have ever belonged to R-Calf, so if you want to pull that label out, you know where you can stick it! I read on this forum about how R-Calf is dead. Their money is gone, their leaders are gone, there is no one left to turn the lights out. Yet, they continued to be blamed for every evil in this world! How can so few do so much claimed damage? Your claimed damage, they are doing to the price of your cattle. I just looked at a 20 yr chart of feeder cattle. Where exactly did they do the damage? I am having a hard time finding the drop in prices since they came into existence. Would you please point it out to me! In another post, someone claimed beef demand was up! How can that be with this evil organization still in existence? :?

I read each post individually mwj. I don’t give a damn whether they are NCBA, R-Calf, democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives, or anything else. Now, can we get back to your original statement [“Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from] Minus the BS this time. :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
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Fed Up: "How can so few do so much claimed damage?"

I'll tell you how Fed Up! No labels, just facts. R-CALF is being led by Herman Schumacher (Herried Livestock), Johnny Smith (Ft. Pierre livestock), Kathleen Kelly (Farmer's Union CO), Mike Callicrate (world renowned packer blamer and proven liar), and Bill Bullard.

How can so few do so much claimed damage? Simple, every day while giving the market reports with a captive audience of cattlemen who want to know the markets, they divulge their lies to the masses. EVERY DAY!

Who led the lawsuit on the constitutionality of the beef checkoff? HERMAN AND JOHNNY!

Who led the lawsuit against the packers? HERMAN AND JOHNNY!

Who stole Leo McDonnell's "fair trade" bus to further their own agenda? THOSE 4!

Herman and Johnny's agenda is to keep cattle routed through their barns. If they can come up with all kinds of conspiracies and reasons to discredit NCBA, they hope producers will not listen to them in regards to the successes of vertical integration that routes around their sale barns.

Those few have been everywhere spewing their lies about the cattle industry only to further their own "HOW MUCH YOU GONNA GIVE FOR EM" agenda and they have many followers.

How did they do it? WITH A PORTION OF WHAT USED TO BE YOUR COMMISSION DOLLARS TO BUY ADVERTISING TIME ON THE RADIO WITH A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE WHO WANTS TO KNOW THE MARKETS.

The missing link is that nobody is ever there to challenge them. I called into a question and statement forum once with these guys and I asked them, "since you have told us that captive supplies and packer concentration are the reason for lower cattle prices, which one of those two factors changed to allow markets to go higher". Not one of them could answer the question. "well it might be this and it might be that and it could be this and it could be that". I called back in again and asked the same question and they changed their answers.

THAT'S WHY I DISLIKE R-CALF SO MUCH! They simply cannot tell the truth and that's why they are falling apart at the seams. The LMA representatives highjacked R-CALF's "fair trade" agenda to further their own sale barn agenda.

That's how so few can do so much damage.


~SH~
 

mwj

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fedup2 said:
Mwj, The question was what you meant by this statement. [Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from] I asked you what you meant by ‘it says a lot’. Again, instead of your usual BS, please explain? You made the statement, I just want to understand what you are trying to say! What about the state the senator is from? :???:

You also state “your pet group”! Do you want to tell me who my pet group is? That was a typical response from a factually weak person mwj! You had to go the “Label” route. That tells me you opened your mouth when you didn’t have a damn thing to say! It is so convenient for some on this forum to label people. That way they never have to deal with issues or posts individually. Just say, “you damn R-Calfers, packer blamers, blah blah blah! :roll: :roll: :roll:

I do not now, nor have ever belonged to R-Calf, so if you want to pull that label out, you know where you can stick it! I read on this forum about how R-Calf is dead. Their money is gone, their leaders are gone, there is no one left to turn the lights out. Yet, they continued to be blamed for every evil in this world! How can so few do so much claimed damage? Your claimed damage, they are doing to the price of your cattle. I just looked at a 20 yr chart of feeder cattle. Where exactly did they do the damage? I am having a hard time finding the drop in prices since they came into existence. Would you please point it out to me! In another post, someone claimed beef demand was up! How can that be with this evil organization still in existence? :?

I read each post individually mwj. I don’t give a damn whether they are NCBA, R-Calf, democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives, or anything else. Now, can we get back to your original statement [“Bill I think it says a lot when you see which state the senator is from] Minus the BS this time. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Fed Up when you decided to label me as a trouble maker on this board with no other input why would you get huffy about labels :roll: Go back and read your good news post earlier this month and see who was the only one that replied :shock: The senator com. was aimed at OT and his constant flow of ''info'' to his elected rep.'s and the conspicuase lack of a MONTANA senator heading the charge.
 
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Just goes to show you mwj- there are a whole lot more Senators opposed to opening the border to higher risk cattle/beef than just Montanas as some of you Canucks perceive...Right now the Montana boys are leading the charge on getting M-COOL implemented so folks can get make open, honest and informed decision on what meat they want to eat.......
 
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