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Sequester Order Signed

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Mike

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We know you're upset that your "Boy" didn't get his way and up taxes a $Trillion$, but to blame the entire fiasco on Congress is very short-sighted.

That's all this is about. Raising taxes.

Are you as stupid as you seem?
 

Steve

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leadership starts or fails at the top

and when those who lead are incompetent, they often blame others for their failure.. just as Obama has done for the last four years...

there is nothing worse then a whining sniveling worthless person in charge blaming everyone else for his failures.. especially when he is the president of the United States..

so if you are looking for some one to cut.. pay the worthless whiner Obama what he is worth..
 

Faster horses

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Steve said:
leadership starts or fails at the top

and when those who lead are incompetent, they often blame others for their failure.. just as Obama has done for the last four years...

there is nothing worse then a whining sniveling worthless person in charge blaming everyone else for his failures.. especially when he is the president of the United States..

so if you are looking for some one to cut.. pay the worthless whiner Obama what he is worth..

YAYYYY!!! :clap: :tiphat:
 
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Anonymous

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Steve said:
leadership starts or fails at the top

and when those who lead are incompetent, they often blame others for their failure.. just as Obama has done for the last four years...

there is nothing worse then a whining sniveling worthless person in charge blaming everyone else for his failures.. especially when he is the president of the United States..

so if you are looking for some one to cut.. pay the worthless whiner Obama what he is worth..

If you are talking the leadership of Reid, Pelosi, McConnell and Boehner- I agree....Congress is supposed to control money issues by the power of the purse- but they haven't.... They are the ones that passed all the laws spending the money- but now can't agree on how to not spend it :roll: .....So in turn they are going to throw away more of their power to the Administrative branch/President and let him do their job...

So again I say- what do we need a Congress for? Cut their funding first ...

The president says the sequester will be "a slow grind that will intensify with each passing day," with growth cut by one half of one percent and about 750,000 jobs lost.

"Every time that we get a piece of economic news over the next month, six months... we'll know that news could have been better," Obama says.

"[Republicans have] allowed these cuts to happen because they've refused to budge on closing a single loophole.

"They think that's apparently more important than protecting the middle class or the military from the pain of these cuts.

"There are Republicans in Congress who privately at least say they'd rather close those loopholes than let these cuts go through.

"There is a caucus of common sense on Capitol Hill. It's a silent group so far."

"I recognize that speaker Boehner has got challenges in his caucus," Obama says. "I recognize that it's very hard for Republican leaders to be seen as making concessions to me. I sometimes think, is there something I could do to make some of these guys – the House Republican caucus – to not paint horns on my head."
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Obama says "Democrats aren't doing anything either to compromise."

"There are members of my party who violently disagree that anything should be done on Medicare," he says. "I disagree with them... There's going to be some tough politics.

"We're not here for ourselves, we're not here for our parties, we're not here to advance our electoral prospects. We're here for American families.

"This is not a win for anybody. This is a loss for the American people."

Obama is striking a sober tone. He wants to send the message that a significant line has been crossed.

He's asked whether he's accusing Republicans alone of scotching the deal?

"Give me an example of what I might do," he says. "What I'm suggesting is, I've put forward a plan that has serious spending cuts, serious entitlement reform... I've offered negotiations around that kind of balanced approach. So far I've gotten rebuffed, because Republicans have said, not a dime [on taxes]."

Obama asks the press for suggestions of what he should do. "This is a room full of smart people," he says.

"I like to think I've still got persuasive power left," he says. "Let me check."

The issue is not my persuasive power," he says. It's what Americans want.

Q: Couldn't you just have them down here and refuse to let GOP leaders leave the room?

"I'm not a dictator, I'm the president. [If McConnell or Boehner want to catch a plane], "I can't have Secret Service block the doorway. I know this has been some of the conventional wisdom. Somehow, even though most people agree that I'm being reasonable, the fact that they don't take it, that I should somehow do a Jedi mind meld [with them]...."

He says he can't do a Jedi mind meld.
 

Steve

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If you are talking the leadership

nope.. they are just pawns in Obama's game...

none has any real power..

Boehnor can pass a hundred solutions, as they have done,.. but as long as harry is on his knees in front of Obama shielding him from any real decision making nothing will get solved.. anyone who understands how our government works can see and understand this..
 

Steve

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Q: Couldn't you just have them down here and refuse to let GOP leaders leave the room?

"I'm not a dictator, I'm the president. [If McConnell or Boehner want to catch a plane], "I can't have Secret Service block the doorway. I know this has been some of the conventional wisdom. Somehow, even though most people agree that I'm being reasonable, the fact that they don't take it, that I should somehow do a Jedi mind meld [with them]...."

what is the point of going to a negotiation with a person such as Obama who doesn't even know what the word means?
 

Big Muddy rancher

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They say taking 85 billion out of the economy will slow it, but that money was coming out of the economy and the government isn't that efficient that it would all make it back.
 
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Steve said:
Q: Couldn't you just have them down here and refuse to let GOP leaders leave the room?

"I'm not a dictator, I'm the president. [If McConnell or Boehner want to catch a plane], "I can't have Secret Service block the doorway. I know this has been some of the conventional wisdom. Somehow, even though most people agree that I'm being reasonable, the fact that they don't take it, that I should somehow do a Jedi mind meld [with them]...."

what is the point of going to a negotiation with a person such as Obama who doesn't even know what the word means?

Well Repubs crapped in their own nest- by giving in on the original sequestration law--- thinking all the time that their was no way Obama could win reelection, so they could come back and do what they wanted with it....
BUT Obama won- and won big time which moved him several pegs higher in the drivers seat...

I truly feel that Repubs are going to come out of this whole thing holding on to the sh*tty end of the stick-- and those that say Obama may be trying to send the Repub party the way of the dinosaurs may be right... He sees a chance for Dems to gain control for 20 years- and I think he's going to take advantage of that chance...

I still see Rehbergs letter coming true (several other ex-legislators have said the same) when these cuts start affecting some folks directly ...
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
leadership starts or fails at the top

and when those who lead are incompetent, they often blame others for their failure.. just as Obama has done for the last four years...

there is nothing worse then a whining sniveling worthless person in charge blaming everyone else for his failures.. especially when he is the president of the United States..

so if you are looking for some one to cut.. pay the worthless whiner Obama what he is worth..

If you are talking the leadership of Reid, Pelosi, McConnell and Boehner- I agree....Congress is supposed to control money issues by the power of the purse- but they haven't.... They are the ones that passed all the laws spending the money- but now can't agree on how to not spend it :roll: .....So in turn they are going to throw away more of their power to the Administrative branch/President and let him do their job...

So again I say- what do we need a Congress for? Cut their funding first ...

For once Oldtimer I agree with your statement here :shock: :eek: but what I have to ask is why when it was Bush that was President it was all about the BUSH BUST? You were not b*tching about the Democrat lead Congress, you, you dirt bag, was blaming everything you could on BUSH? So by your own past actions, you Hypocrite, you must blame everything happening now on OBAMA YOUR HERO. :roll:
 

Tam

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Obama says "Democrats aren't doing anything either to compromise."

Gee the Dems are not willing to compromise but it is all about Boehner and McDonnell wanting to catch a plane and Obama not having the power to stop them. :roll:

Looks like Obama doesn't have any influence over his own party either as if he did he would have pased at least ONE FRIGGIN BUDGET IN FOUR YEARS. :roll:

"I'm not a dictator, I'm the president.
And Obama claiming he is not a dictator :lol: I love it, his actions of Executive ordering his agenda into action after the Congress has voted NO sure makes it look as if he thinks he is. :x
 

TexasBred

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
leadership starts or fails at the top

and when those who lead are incompetent, they often blame others for their failure.. just as Obama has done for the last four years...

there is nothing worse then a whining sniveling worthless person in charge blaming everyone else for his failures.. especially when he is the president of the United States..

so if you are looking for some one to cut.. pay the worthless whiner Obama what he is worth..

If you are talking the leadership of Reid, Pelosi, McConnell and Boehner- I agree....Congress is supposed to control money issues by the power of the purse- but they haven't.... They are the ones that passed all the laws spending the money- but now can't agree on how to not spend it :roll: .....So in turn they are going to throw away more of their power to the Administrative branch/President and let him do their job...

So again I say- what do we need a Congress for? Cut their funding first ...

For once Oldtimer I agree with your statement here :shock: :eek: but what I have to ask is why when it was Bush that was President it was all about the BUSH BUST? You were not b*tching about the Democrat lead Congress, you, you dirt bag, was blaming everything you could on BUSH? So by your own past actions, you Hypocrite, you must blame everything happening now on OBAMA YOUR HERO. :roll:


Wow, not that was a kick to OT's nut sack. Caught him doing the double speak again.
 
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TexasBred said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
If you are talking the leadership of Reid, Pelosi, McConnell and Boehner- I agree....Congress is supposed to control money issues by the power of the purse- but they haven't.... They are the ones that passed all the laws spending the money- but now can't agree on how to not spend it :roll: .....So in turn they are going to throw away more of their power to the Administrative branch/President and let him do their job...

So again I say- what do we need a Congress for? Cut their funding first ...

For once Oldtimer I agree with your statement here :shock: :eek: but what I have to ask is why when it was Bush that was President it was all about the BUSH BUST? You were not b*tching about the Democrat lead Congress, you, you dirt bag, was blaming everything you could on BUSH? So by your own past actions, you Hypocrite, you must blame everything happening now on OBAMA YOUR HERO. :roll:


Wow, not that was a kick to OT's nut sack. Caught him doing the double speak again.

Well you and Tammy away from my nutsack :wink: :lol:
But back on subject again-- I don't know how I could have complained any louder about GW's "rubber stamp" Congress which did no oversight over his actions and ended up giving the Administrative Branch/President a "new toolbox full of precedence"-- which I told you back then might come back to bite you in the butt if a Democrat President got into power...
And guess what- I was right... I TOLD YOU SO! :wink:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Congress which did no oversight over his actions and ended up giving the Administrative Branch/President a "new toolbox full of precedence"-- which I told you back then might come back to bite you in the butt if a Democrat President got into power...
And guess what- I was right... I TOLD YOU SO! :wink:

Oldtimer are you kidding me :shock: :? the Democrats live by the rule Do As I Say Not As I Do. If a Republican were to try half the crap Obama has done the Dems would be signing impeachment papers in a heart beat. I just wish the friggin GOP leadership would step up to the plate and file on Obama since there is no doubt he lied to the Congress when he claimed he knew nothing about Fast and Furious and then applied Executive Privilege to protect Holder. If Obama knew nothing then HIS EXECUTIVE PRIVILEDGE should not protect Holder from the Congress OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. then add he openly repeatedly lied about Benghazi for weeks and his administration including Hillary Dillary Dock mislead Congress and American voters AND STILL ARE but nothing is happening about that and the families to the victims are still in the dark to why their loved ones are DEAD. OH OH OH and don't forget the leaks coming from the White House that lead to the death of Seal Team Six Members. If a Republican had done that the media would have crucified them but it was Obama so under the rug that topic goes too.

You need to face the facts Oldtimer the Republicans don't set precedence the Dems do and when a Republican tries to live by the same rules the RULES CHANGE. :wink: :roll: And the Changes are overlooked and defended by people like you Oldtimer.
 

Tam

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BTW Oldtimer has Obama YOUR HERO vetoed one bill that Pelosi and Reid had shoved through Congress? Or has he RUBBER STAMPED every friggin pork filled bill the Dems have handed him? Wasn't Obama the one that campaigned on going line by line and cut the pork out of bills he signs?

Do turtles need tunnels?
Do gang bangers need their tatoos removed at tax payer expense when they paid to have them put on?
Do you really need to study fish to see how a democracy works?
Does the USDA need to educate people on how to eat caviar?
Does the Miitary need to put out videos on cooking?
Do you need to pay for studies on the DNA of a grape?
Do you need to pay for Sex Ed in China?

Yep all pork spending Obama has signed into law and you defend by defending him while blaming everything on Bush and the GOP.

Back to your original comment Oldtimer the Congress has the control of the purse strings you are right on that point but you b*tched/b*tch about Bush while the Dems controled Congress AND WROTE THE BILLS BUSH HAD TO SIGN TO KEEP GOVERNMENT FUNDED:? And now you blame the GOP while they have had control of one house for two years in the past six when the national debt has SKYROCKETED UNDER THE DEMS AND YOUR RUBBER STAMPING HERO OBAMA. :roll:
 
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Tam said:
BTW Oldtimer has Obama YOUR HERO vetoed one bill that Pelosi and Reid had shoved through Congress? Or has he RUBBER STAMPED every friggin pork filled bill the Dems have handed him? Wasn't Obama the one that campaigned on going line by line and cut the pork out of bills he signs?

Don't you remember- Guiliani got the line item veto ruled unconstitutional by the SCOTUS- because it cut into his place at the trough....
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
BTW Oldtimer has Obama YOUR HERO vetoed one bill that Pelosi and Reid had shoved through Congress? Or has he RUBBER STAMPED every friggin pork filled bill the Dems have handed him? Wasn't Obama the one that campaigned on going line by line and cut the pork out of bills he signs?

Don't you remember- Guiliani got the line item veto ruled unconstitutional by the SCOTUS- because it cut into his place at the trough....

yep,.. and that is why we didn't vote or support his run for president...

yet you voted for Obama
on Sept. 26, 2008, Barack Obama said he had stopped requesting earmarks as a senator and that he shared McCain's desire for earmark reform and the elimination of wasteful projects.

McCain noted that Obama had made $932 million in earmark requests during his first three years as a senator and he criticized Obama for saying earmarks accounted for "only $18 billion" in federal spending.

Obama replied, "John, nobody is denying that $18 billion is important. And, absolutely, we need earmark reform .And when I'm president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely."

In his first six weeks as president, Obama has faced two huge spending bills that each gave him a major opportunity to demonstrate that "line by line" approach on earmarks. But there were two very different outcomes.

Depending how you count them, there are upwards of 9,000 earmarks in the bill, Obama signed the bill later that week after it passes the democratic controlled Senate. Obama's aides have downplayed the significance of the earmarks, saying they came from a budget process

The Omnibus, however, is loaded with earmarks. Obama and the White House could have used the bully pulpit to criticize them. But they have not been very critical, nor have they indicated any attempt to go "line by line" through the bill to look for wasteful programs, as Obama pledged during the campaign.



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