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Shamie has some explainin' to do

Whitewing

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In the report, police officers are advised that supporters of Ron Paul (2008 Republican candidate for President) or Chuck Baldwin (2008 Constitution Party candidate for President) are to be considered POTENTIAL DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.

You see, here's where you clowns lose what little credibility you've ever had. The report says no such thing.

What it does say is this:

Militia members most commonly associate with 3rd party political groups. It is not uncommon for militia members to display Constitutional Party, Campaign for Liberty, or Libertarian material. These members are usually supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr.
 

hypocritexposer

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Whitewing said:
In the report, police officers are advised that supporters of Ron Paul (2008 Republican candidate for President) or Chuck Baldwin (2008 Constitution Party candidate for President) are to be considered POTENTIAL DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.

You see, here's where you clowns lose what little credibility you've ever had. The report says no such thing.

What it does say is this:

Militia members most commonly associate with 3rd party political groups. It is not uncommon for militia members to display Constitutional Party, Campaign for Liberty, or Libertarian material. These members are usually supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr.


Is that the report that named OT as a domestic terrorist for being a supporter of Ron Paul and believing in the NAFTA superhighway? :?


He's starting to sound more like shamoo and LB all the time...... :???:
 

lightninboy

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Terral L. Croft
Sep 2 2007

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Follow along and we will use this evidence to prove this contains the nose section of an object with the exact diameter of a Tomahawk Missile = 20.9 inches.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-109.html#_SLCM

Our first task is to identify that our camera lens, the top of the right hand column, the nose of the flying object and a point 5-feet above the horizon are all on the same level horizontal transit plane elevation. That means if we superimposed a flat sheet of glass 5 feet off the ground, then all four reference points would be touching along the same ‘line of vision’ from our perspective inside the camera lens. We take the five-foot dimension from the center of our flying object and measure down to the ground to realize the ‘clearance’ under the object is 3 times greater than the diameter. If the nose of the object is at 5-feet and the distance below that object is 3 to 4 feet, then the diameter of that flying object cannot possibly exceed 2 feet. These four reference points on the same level horizontal plane are demonstrated again here:

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Cameras #1 and #2 are on the far left facing in the direction of the red 5-Foot Horizontal Elevation Plane to your right. The top of our column is very near the two cameras, even though it appears in only one set of images. The nose of the flying object is very low to the ground on this same 5-foot plane directly between the top of our 5-foot column and the horizon in the distance. If any of these reference points were higher or lower than our 5-foot elevation, then those points would not line up in the frame1 picture above. We are perhaps lucky that the missile is approaching on the same elevation as the three reference points and lucky again that the nose was captured meeting the top of the column. However, we are using these reference locations to our advantage, even though the laws of probability just happen to be on our side this time.

Since the diameter of a real 757-200 Jetliner is just about 15 feet, there is no way this frame1 object can possibly be anything near that size. Remember our 3 to 1 ration of ‘clearance to object diameter' from the frame1 diagram above. If the diameter of that flying object is 15 feet, then the clearance underneath is 3 times that number or a whopping 45 feet! Those calculations place the nose of the 100-Ton Jetliner at the “52-6” dimension far up the wall on the right hand side of this diagram. In other words, even the released Department of Defense pictures prove the Pentagon was struck by white flying object with the dimensions of a Tomahawk Missile, which is verified by the military witnesses in the Pentagon:

http://911review.org/Wiki/PentagonAttackWitnessesBlast.shtml

The ASCE's Pentagon Building Performance Report: Arrogant Deception - Or an Attempt to Expose a Cover-up?

http://www.kolumbus.fi/sy-k/pentagon/asce_en.htm

So how did the plastic cable reels survive destruction from the 757 fuselage or melting by the horrendous jet fuel explosion?

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Another view shows the masonry components between Column Line 13 and 15 were also blown back in our direction, after the Tomahawk Missile punched a hole in the outer E-Ring wall to detonate just inside the Pentagon. Since the 21-inch square columns are 10 feet on centers, the Entry Hole is actually 18’-3” in diameter. The first floor columns 16, 17 and 18 remain intact behind the breached limestone sections hanging down like arms from the second story wall bulging out in our direction.

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Damage to the North side of the Entry Hole sees Column 8 intact, but Columns 9 through 12 appear to be missing, which assisted in the eventual collapse. The fence was also thrown back over the hood of the small vehicle, when the first floor masonry wall was blasted back in our direction. These are all signatures of a missile attack with warhead detonation just inside column #14 shifting the primary masonry wall out to dislodge the limestone masonry units. A man could easily stand atop the SUV and reach the second floor elevation with his hands, which proves no 100-ton Jetliner had anything to do with damaging this masonry wall.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t8772.html
 

lightninboy

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April 14th, 2009
A Department of Homeland Security report warns that rightwing extremism is expected to escalate. Domestic terrorism is cited, at the hands of white supremacists, and returning military veterans. The nine page report has been distributed to law enforcement agencies.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/


SPLC Intelligence Report: Spring 2010
I am very proud to have been included with these great people and groups working to make real change in America and the world.

http://www.uaff.us/mass_media_targeting_citizens.htm


Active ‘Patriot’ Groups in the United States in 2010

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2011/spring/active-patriot-groups-in-the-us
 

lightninboy

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By Jon Carlson

A day after 9/11 USA Today reported Aircraft Carrier USS George Washington was anchored off Long Island.

In addition to the aircraft carrier USS George Washington standing watch off Long Island and the carrier USS John F. Kennedy at an undisclosed location further off the East Coast, the Navy was moving several cruisers and destroyers out of port in Norfolk, Va., headquarters for the Atlantic Fleet.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/military-navy-deployment.htm

The Pentagon refuses to say how many aircraft, ships and troops are defending U.S. territory or where they are — even after TV cameras showed the carrier USS George Washington off New York.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/16/military-home-front.htm

Photos showed the presence of a US Navy helicopter at the South Tower 9/11 Show of mass murder and treason. After guiding a Boeing 737 drone NOT the Boeing 767 Flight UA175 into and through the South Tower the helicopter waited 59 minutes before igniting the preplanted demolition charges that brought that tower to the ground AND departed for its base of operations, the aircraft carrier USS George Washington.

The USS George Washington served as base of operations for the WHITE JET, two A3 Skywarrior drones, one that hit the Pentagon and the other was blown up Pennsylvania by the WHITE JET, and two helicopters, one the South Tower helicopter and the other the helicopter used similarly at the Pentagon. The NYC Boeing 737 drones were sent from the NASA airport in Dayton, Ohio, the only US Navy airport in the eastern US. Flight controllers came forward in the discovery phase of the Motley Rice lawsuit describing the NYC airliners going off the radar screen over the Atlantic Ocean.

A NW wind was needed to blow the smoke plume over the South Tower and the 9/6 weather forecast of the NW wind was the TRIGGER of 9/11.

Further corroboration that 9/6 was the trigger date for 9/11 was the 9/6 insider selling of airlines and some 28 stocks in all betting that they would collapse from 9/11.

The circa 9/11 carrier had a sparse supply of fighter jets MERELY serving as Base Of Operations for 9/11 aircraft, the WHITE JET, two US Navy helicopters, and three A3 Skywarriors (one spare A3, as three A3 Skywarriors were modified as drones in Fort Collins, CO.)

http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/USSGeorgeWashington9111.htm


By Jon Carlson

In 2001 the only NW wind days from June 1st to Nov. 1st were 6/16, 8/13, 9/11, 10/8, and 10/17.

Actually at only 60,000 pounds the carrier-capable A3 Skywarrior hit the Pentagon 3 foot thick walls like a bug hitting a windshield. This photo shows the wreckage far left behind the truck. Later a specially prepared section of the wall was dropped on top of the wreckage using demolition charges. Notice the smudge pot in the background which in this instance was supposed to make it appear that the CONCRETE MASONRY PENTAGON WAS ABLAZE. It was a tank of cerosote oil ignited by radio control like everything else on 9/11. The cameras caught everything however.

a3crudefire1.jpg


http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/ClintonNo911Hero1.htm



By Jon Carlson

9/11 was a Keystone Cops mass murder of Americans where everything went wrong while cameras galore were rolling. 9/11 Prime Suspects used remote controlled Boeing 737 drones with napalm bombs attached to create Hollywood Spectaculars at the South and North Towers.

Knowing the impact point of the left engine,the A3 dimensions, and MISSING 5 foot long limestone blocks, it is possible to depict the A3 crash location:
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The ARFF foam units knocked down the bulk of the fire in the first seven minutes after their arrival, said Captain Michael Defina, who was the shift commander that day at National.
"We applied the foam tactfully and kept the fire from spreading drastically," he said. "This allowed for self-evacuation of the Pentagon at a critical time, saving many lives, and eventually the building." Two Oshkosh T3000s spread approximately 600 gallons (2.2 kiloliters) of 6% AFFF with an initial fire flow of more than 3,000 gallons (11.3 kiloliters) per minute.

These gate-crashing foam trucks totally wrecked the MADE IN HOLLYWOOD Pentagon production.

But not for long. At 10:10, about 30 minutes after the crash and exploding napalm bombs, the explosive charges in the Target Wall were ignited sending some of it crashing down AND fires all around were reignited. Even the smudgepot.

http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/911PentagonStory1.htm


By Jon Carlson

“Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.
If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you?”

Full Statement of Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, US Marine Corps (ret)
Retired U.S. Marine Corps Fighter Pilot
February 20, 2007

In April, 2006, Journalist Webster Tarpley interviewed Thierry Meyssan, President of the Voltaire Network, an organization of 20 different news agencies in Europe, Middle East and Africa, with correspondents in many countries. Thierry trumped America's pseudo-journalists with his 2002 book, Pentagate, drawing first blood on the Pentagon 9/11 Hoax.

He (Gen. Ivashov) was the chief of armed forces in Russia on 9/11. He says the Russian forces were watching North America because of the large military exercises being carried out by the US that day, so they saw in real time by satellite what was happening on that day.

In April, 2005, writer Chevalier Désireé, from France but formerly USA, revealed that Russia watched on their satellite as the A3 Skywarrior left a carrier and impacted the Pentagon:

“It seems that it is common knowledge in these circles that Russian satellites photographed a ship-launched craft (seems to have been a drone type plane rather than a missle) that ended up impacting the Pentagon on Sept 11, 2001, and that, for various reasons this information has been withheld from the public.
I was naturally startled to hear this even though I have long held the opinion that it was NOT a commercial jetliner that hit the Pentagon. I think the thing that startled me was the fact that, if Russia (and perhaps other countries with satellites?) had proof that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, why weren't they revealing this?”

http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/911RussianSatellite1.htm
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
The F14 Tomcat




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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o


I bet this video brings back some memories...... "Top Gun"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtw8Knn3D5A&feature=related

how is this for defying physics?
 

lightninboy

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The Truth About The Pentagon Attack

Written by Lloyd T Vance & Steve Johnson

Basically there are two ways to pull off a False Flag Terrorist Attack

1) Recruit a small team to carry off the attack, this way is very risky.

2) Under cover of running some Police, Military Drill.

The chances of a Terrorist Attack happening at the same time, place as a drill going on is 13 pass a trillion odds of it happening, so coincidence cannot be explained away that easy.

In example 1) we can track, collect the evidence and proof to expose these people within days or a few weeks. In example 2) it can take years to collect the evidence, proof to expose these people by which time they have achieved their political or corrupt goal and mission.

Many thanks to Matt Everett wrote a great article near last Sept 11th anniversary that revealed some new details about the CIA & NRO's extremely suspicious and coincidental plane crash 'drill' planned for 9/11that a lot of people might of missed, he exposes the CIA role in these attacks.

If it couldn't get any more coincidental than US spy agencies planning to have a mock plane crash into a govt building on of all days 11th Sept 2001, their mock plane crash was to happen at 9:32 am, just 5min before the official time that the Pentagon would be hit (9:37 am).

Well guess what the CIA and NRO planned to have for their plane crash "exercise"? That's right, a generator to emit smoke.

Researcher Barbara Honneger thinks these same times of 9:32 am are no coincidence and makes a good case that the Pentagon attack actually happened at 9:32 am, not 9:37 as officials claim.

Samuel Danner (electrical engineer for Amtrak), was involved in the clean-up at the Pentagon crash site and inspected the debris at the site. He said, "It was not a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon. The plane looked like a hump-back whale." He thinks a Global Hawk hit the Pentagon.(There were only seven made as of 9/11/01 and two were missing at the time.) Danner is a former pilot. He said the aircraft that hit the Pentagon was very quiet with one engine near the back. He also saw a second plane overhead and wonders if it was controlling the plane that hit the Pentagon. He walked the lawn and picked up small pieces of debris with others. He did not see any bodies from the aircraft. Danner is very ill now with lymphoma, which may be the result of DU exposure at the Pentagon on 9/11. He wants to talk now (after seeing "Loose Change") because "it's been bugging me." The Global Hawk fired a DU missile that penetrated the thick concrete wall of the Pentagon. DU was detected at the time and workers on the step, this 53-yr old Sam Danner, a pilot since the age of 16, was a first-hand observer of the crash. He pulled his car over to the south of the pentagon on the right side of 395 when he saw the approach of the plane that hit the pentagon. He also observed a bunch of guys outside the pentagon standing there looking through binoculars.
He got a good view of the plane's approach, for a duration of at least three seconds. He says that the plane was not a 757, no way. "It was like a humpback whale" he says. Size of a Gulfstream 300, about 100 ft wingspan, one engine on the backside with a "V" tail and no windows he could see. And it was very quiet. Going about 400 mph. Overhead, at an estimated 15,000 feet he saw another plane. As an EMT, he ran over to help at the Pentagon, but found no bodies, no wreckage from a Boeing aircraft on the scene. He smelled cordite and he saw a 3-foot single engine on the ground there. He picked up graphite pieces similar to the composite wings on a Global Hawk. This engine matches the description of the single engine of a Global Hawk. The Global Hawk is a UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) but could not have caused the damage if it wasn't containing a bunker-busting missile deployed on impact. The plane observed overhead might have been the plane controlling the remotely-controlled mission. If a 757 had crashed into the Pentagon, then there would have been aluminum all over the grass and two 9-foot-diameter engines.

Read from Looking Glass News.

http://www.lookingglassnews.org/

Later photos show the initial impact caused an approx. 16-foot hole near the bottom of the 5-story Pentagon outer wall with no visible Boeing 757 plane wreckage on the lawn of the Pentagon.

According to a collision simulation performed atcs.purdue.edu, a Boeing 757 fuselage travelling at 545MPH could liquefy on impact and disappear into the entry point. However the study did not address how a 124-foot wide Boeing 757 could disappear into the 16-foot hole.

Shortly after 9/11 BBC showed photos of the alleged Flight 77 silhouette on its approach to the Pentagon. Comparison of that silhouette to an A3 Skywarrior silhouette and a Boeing 757 silhouette confirmed that the A3 Skywarrior was the weapon of choice of the Federal Government at the mini-mass murderer at the Pentagon on 9/11. The BBC photos were taken from a location northwest of the Pentagon crash site overlooking Arlington National Cemetery. This witness said alleged Flight 77 flew over the Cemetery. Arlington National Cemetery groundskeeper, William Middleton Sr., was running his street sweeper through the cemetery when he heard a harsh whistling sound overhead. Middleton looked up and spotted a jet whose pilot seemed to be fighting with his own craft.

To set the BBC stage, notice the trees in their early Pentagon view, the BBC logo, and 'Pentagon' written on the lower screen. When viewing the next two photos, pay attention to the V-shape nature of the wings AND the blunt nose AND the stubby fuselage.

Hands down, the A3 SKYWARRIOR silhouette is THE WINNER! WONDER NO LONGER WHY THE FBI REFUSES TORELEASE OVER 80 VIDEOS FROM THE 9/11 PENTAGON AND THE ID'S OF THE ENGINES FROM THE PENTAGON, THE NYC STREET, OR PENNSYLVANIA. As two A3 Skywarriors are missing from the Raytheon Corporation inventory, it is not out of the realm of possibility that another A3 was blown up by the White Jet in Pennsylvania.

American Patriots Bronco Bingham and attorney Scott Hodes have drawn blood in their FOIA request to view videos of what really happened at the Pentagon House of Death on 9/11.
In doing so they have trumped the GOP-connected Judicial Watch receipt earlier of severely PHOTOSHOPPED Pentagon videos. One of the Judicial Watch videos was 'leaked' in 2002 but the FBI didn't consider it in existence because it wasn't officially released. Presumably with the official release of that video to Judicial Watch the FBI now certifies its existence. The other video released to Judicial Watch had the mainstream media and JW salivating over the hocus-pocus Flight 77 they claimed it showed. The video released from the FBI Collection of 85 9/11Pentagon videos is the Real McCoy. It was videotaped from the Doubletree Hotel in Arlington, VA. The earlier videos showed a Photoshopped object at ground level highlighted in yellow that was supposed to represent alleged Flight AA77.
HOWEVER, large trees and light posts preclude such a low ground level approach.

Witnesses said the Pentagon aircraft descended rapidly to its impact at the first floor level. These frames from the Doubletree Hotel video shows the aircraft circled in yellow at the height witnesses described, not at ground level, and descending. Especially notice the SMALL AIRCRAFT SIZE in comparison to the military helicopter circled in RED (The A3 Skywarrior that hit the Pentagon only weighed 60,000 pounds.) and THE HELICOPTER'S STATIONARY POSITION during the impact which allowed its remote control array antenna to lock on with the aircraft's planar array antenna.
This photo shows that the aircraft has descended below the height of the Pentagon roof The explosion from the impact circled in yellow in some photos is barely visible in this photo.
In these photos the military helicopter exits the Pentagon airspace.

NTSB data indicates Flight 77 never dropped below 273feet! Therefore, Flight 77 could not have crashed into the Pentagon. The Pentagon is only 71 feet tall. Secondly, according to the black box data, Flight 77 could not have damaged the light poles.

According to Calum Douglas, Pilots for 911 Truth requested and eventually received a 25-megabyte folderfile in response to its FOIA request. Some of the more interesting findings conflict with the 'official conspiracy theory', mass media accounts, and official statements by Bush, Rumsfeld et al.

Two witnesses, uniformed employees of the Department of Defense [DOD] claimed to have seen Flight 77 as it approached the Pentagon. But the said witnesses could not have seen whatever it was that struck the poles. Whatever struck the poles would have been on a flightpath behind the witnesses and would have been unseen by them. The only plausible explanation is that whatever struck the Pentagon approached by way of the light poles and at an altitude that, in fact, allowed it to strike and damage the poles enroute. What ever that was it was not Flight 77 which was higher up at the time and on a different trajectory. A missile might have taken that route and would not have been seen by the above mentioned witnesses.

Could Flight 77 have simply leveled off? Bluntly--no! Flight 77 had only a half second to two seconds in which to dive a couple of hundred feet and then level off thus accounting for both the light pole damage and the hit into the Pentagon.
Such a maneuver is outside manufacturer’s specifications, simply, impossible in that aircraft. Moreover, had that happened the 757 would not have been seen by the eyewitnesses who could ONLY have seen it on the other trajectory. It is also 'outside the performance envelope' of one Hani Hanjour.

In every other case, crashed airliners are re-constructed! Not this time! Could it be that re-construction was opposed because it was known that by putting all the pieces together again, one would wind up with, perhaps, a Global Hawk or a cruise missile or some other 'weapon'' requiring only one rotor of about three feet or so diameter?

The rotor that was found is, in fact, the same size as the rotor of a Rolls-Royce engine that is found in the US Global Hawk! Anyone not burdened by official orthodoxy, lies and unproven assumptions need only look at the available evidence. That is, that single rotor could most certainly have been traced to a US Global Hawk not to a 757 which, in fact, is equipped with two such rotors of diameters about three times that of the Global Hawk rotor.

On September 11, at least five different "war games" were being conducted by the military and intelligence agencies. These exercises included simulations of 9/11 type events, a plane into building scenario near Dulles Airport in Virginia, and deployment of fighters to northern Canada and Alaska (which reduced the number of fighters that were available to protect the US?). It seems that these exercises were the means used to paralyze the air defenses, thereby ensuring the success of the "attacks." The British Navy was conducting exercises in the Indian Ocean near the Middle East. A biowar exercise was also about to start in New York City. It is difficult to believe that it is a bizarre "coincidence" that the military and CIA were conducting war games similar to 9/11 on September 11, 2001. While it seems likely, if not blatantly obvious, that these war games were one of the means used to confuse the air defense system for sufficient time to allow the World Trade Center to be attacked, the war games do not answer the question of how the air defenses were suppressed for another half hour after the second tower was hit (at which time everyone knew that an attack was in progress). The Air Force had another half hour after the second tower to scramble interceptors to defend the Capitol (the plane that is alleged to have hit the Pentagon made its 180-degree turn over Ohio to head back toward DC about the time that the second tower was struck).

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55896743/The-Truth-About-The-Pentagon-Attack
 

Faster horses

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It's supposed to be hot here for the next couple of weeks.
We've missed rain of any consequence so the
higher temps will turn the hay the wrong way.
 

lightninboy

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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell
Jul 7, 2009

So, I went about collecting nothing more than raw images,
and that effort produced a collection numbering about
1,200 digital photos in all.

http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/gwbush/pentagon/

Of course, the Pentagon's 5 cctv frames were exceedingly
important. And, because I am a published author
in computer graphics (Harvard Laboratory, 1977),
I was able to use some simple graphics software
to examine closely the pixel patterns in the one cctv frame
which appears to show the attack jet's vertical tail section:
That analysis immediately resulted in confirming evidence
that the jet's fuselage, forward of the visible tail section,
had been "air brushed" with a purple color which had been taken
from a completely different region of that one frame:
Proving that this color was "foreign" to the pixels where
the fuselage would have been visible, was quite easy:
all that we needed to do was examine subsequent frames,
which showed a dissipating missile exhaust plume, then
the distant background which was covered mostly by
green-colored vegetation growing on a highway embankment
there:
Of course, given the terminal velocity of the attack jet,
its fuselage was not and would not have been visible at all
in any of those subsequent frames.
Once we had confirmed these "air brushed" pixel alterations,
we then theorized that the purple-colored pixels actually
did obliterate the fuselage, and very little else:
therefore, the air-brushed pixels turned out to
outline the fuselage almost perfectly!!
Also, it is quite plausible that the Pentagon personnel,
who did these alterations to evidence of a murder weapon,
were in a big hurry, and didn't stop to consider fully the
extent and manner of those alterations. For example,
a 757's nose would have protruded further to the left
than the left-most purple pixels visible in that cctv frame!
Thus, the first element of our hypothesis was a somewhat
rough estimate of the overall dimensions of the attack jet,
based in part on the area outlined by those purple pixels
forward of the visible tail section.
From there, we turned our attention to the photos of the
Pentagon that were taken after the crash and before the
roof collapsed. Of course, the roof collapse resulted
in destroying or concealing plenty of valuable forensic
evidence. But, there were enough photos taken before
the roof collapsed, for us to make a reasonable estimate
of the attack jet's "imprint" on the Pentagon's exterior
facade:
Then, we had a breakthrough when we discovered the localized
damages on the diesel generator which had been parked
just outside of the Pentagon's exterior wall: after its
fire was extinguished, that diesel generator was not
moved for quite some time, so it appears in lots of
photos taken both before and after the roof collapsed:
It was most interesting that the specific damages to that
generator came very close to matching the geometry of
an A-3's starboard engine and starboard missile pylon.
The starboard under-wing geometry of a 757 is very different!
[Moreover, the instantaneous impact of the starboard engine
with the left end of that diesel generator helps to explain
why the attack jet hit with a slight roll to the port side.
Its forward-looking radar may have also attempted to
avoid a collision with that diesel generator, but
its avionics failed to roll the jet quickly enough.]
Also, there were relatively few indications of direct
impact above the first floor of the Pentagon, except
of course the main entrance hole, and except for
one localized area which matched quite neatly
the point at which the right wing tip must have hit.
Those damages where the right wing tip hit were also
superficial, as compared to where the starboard engine
demolished 3 reinforced concrete bearing columns.
Then, things started to fall into place quite nicely,
because the damages to the bearing columns also lined
up with the starboard engine, which would have had
maximum kinetic energy and would have been the first
high-density aircraft component to hit the Pentagon.
[Formula for Kinetic energy is K = 1/2 mv**2 ]
And, using simple physics, the impact of the starboard engine
resulted in significantly reducing the attack jet's overall incident
kinetic energy, so much so that the port engine ended up
hitting with much less kinetic energy. And, if you know
where to look, you can see where the 12"+ thick concrete
ceiling above the first floor was chipped away,
most probably when the port engine hit right at that point.
Another big breakthrough occurred when, somewhat later in my
search for photos, I came upon the one showing a crane
lifting two planar sections of metal, one of which exhibits
a severe compression gash at one end. Also visible on the
other planar section is a conduit, or tube-like device,
running the horizontal length of that planar section.
Well, the A-3 Skywarrior is quite unique for having
a rectangular fuselage and an external re-fueling line
attached to the port-side fuselage. A Boeing 757,
on the other hand, has a distinctly cylindrical fuselage
and no external re-fueling lines whatsoever.
That compression gash in the shorter metal section
most probably resulted when the fuselage collided
with the ceiling above the first floor, at an incident
angle of about 50 degrees off the building line.]
This "geometric" approach did result in producing
the best overall "fit" between an A-3 Skywarrior
and the damages evident on the Pentagon before the
roof collapsed.
There were other anomalies which this "best fit" approach
did not explain directly: for example, debris was
later identified as components from other aircraft,
not from an A-3. Although we don't have any really
convincing proof of the following explanation,
it has been suggested -- by me and by several others --
that those other parts were either stowed in the A-3's
bomb bay and/or those other parts were placed in the
Pentagon prior to the crash -- to confuse forensic
investigators.
All of this analysis would have been much easier, of course,
if all video evidence had been promptly published of the
attack jet's final approach, and if all of the debris
had been assembled in a single NTSB hangar, which is
SOP whenever a commercial jet crash has occurred,
in order to attempt mandatory accident reconstruction.
Nevertheless, coupled with other, secondary evidence
of which I am aware, some of it admittedly circumstantial,
we have informed the U.S. Coast Guard of our conclusions
that an unmanned, remotely controlled A-3 Skywarrior
hit the Pentagon, immediately after an air-to-ground ("AGM")
missile was launched from under the port wing, in order to
soften an entrance hole for the A-3's main fuselage.
The timing of the warhead's explosion was not quite
"perfect" however, and the shock wave resulted
in partially disintegrating the A-3 into pieces,
some of which came to rest outside the Pentagon.
I am a qualified Federal Witness, and I am competent
to testify, under oath, as to the facts and conclusions
summarized above.
Thank you.
Sincerely yours,
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964(a)
Criminal Investigator and Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13

http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/msg/d8a9e71f60602273
 
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I am impressed by your posts LB. I have done extensive research and find myself learning from your posts. Good Job....there are others looking at this site and it is exposing the criminals even though these morons will never be able to handle the truth....

"these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. " Morpheous from Matrix
 

lightninboy

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There is strong evidence to support a Douglas A-3 Skywarrior armed with a missile hit the Pentagon. One thing we can be certain about; it was not a Boeing 757, as our government claims.

One might expect to see three holes in the pentagon, one for the main body and two more for each engine. The engine and engine parts were found outside of the building, they never penetrated the building thus no hole was created by them. The deep 18 foot hole was most probably made by an on board missile and not the aircraft itself. A radiation expert claims high-radiation readings near the Pentagon indicates depleted uranium (DU) munitions may have been used.

http://www.rense.com/general67/radfdf.htm

Witnesses say, the U.S. military secretly had Raytheon Co. refit an A-3 Skywarrior with new jet engines, a missile, and a Global Hawk guidance system, just prior to 9/11. Coincidentally, five key executives of Raytheon Co. went missing on 9/11. The official word is they died in the hijacked planes on 9/11.

http://tomflocco.com/fs/WitnessesLink.htm

The Jet engine(s) found may be key to identifying what type of aircraft hit the Pentagon: At the very least, they help determine a Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon. Both the jet engine housing as well as a "front end rotor head" have been identified as belonging to a Pratt & Whitney JT8D jet engine. The P&W JT8D engine has been used on the smaller Boeing 727 as well as a retrofit for the A-3 Skywarrior. Two P&W JT8D's do not provide enough thrust to get a Boeing 757 off the ground much less sufficient power to perform the military precision maneuvers the aircraft in question did.

http://www.rense.com/general63/ident.htm

A photograph of a cracked windshield found at the crash site strongly resembles the top canopy glass found on the Skywarrior: No windows of this shape are found on a Boeing 757.

The landing gear is one part found in the crash site that may be linked to a Boeing 757. It could also be a part that was retrofitted on an A-3 Skywarrior, since the wheels would most likely need to be replaced with something still available.

A geometric analysis can show the aircraft that hit the Pentagon is under 85 feet long and therefore too small to be a Boeing 757, which is over 155 feet long. An A-3 Skywarrior is 76 feet 4 inches long.

http://www.golfvex.com/questions/911-did-douglas-3-skywarrior-armed-missile-hit-pentagon__qa88893



Was the Pentagon Struck by a Boeing 757 on 9/11?
What We Learn from Examining the Only Public Photographic Evidence
David L. Griscom
impactGlass research international
San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico

Specifically, I hypothesize that the Pentagon was impacted on 9/11 solely by
a UAV-ized A-3 diving out of Arlington National Cemetery at treetop level.
It is undisputed that an American Airlines 757 (likely Flight 77) passed over the
Naval Annex at about 200 feet about 8 seconds before the impact, while a
C-130 at a few thousand feet was widely witnessed about 30 seconds later.

http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx?isGallary=true&shareID=1720199&fileID=492719955


9/11 and Raytheon Connection

http://issuu.com/forgenerations/docs/911raytheonconnection


THE GLOBAL HAWK THEORY

Northop Grumman RQ-4 Global Hawk (R= reconnaissance, Q = unmanned).

Among those who've most explicitly fingered this new spy drone as the culprit, Israeli-obsessed, borderline anti-Semitic 9/11 Truth clowns Christopher Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid stand out. Hufschmid is especially prolific, from his mixed-quality 2002 book Painful Questions to his much worse 2003 video Painful Deceptions and beyond, his Global Hawk arguments make his theorizing look more like a parody of sorts than an actual attempt at truth. It was to Hufschmid that self-described Pentagon attack witness Sam Danner turned in 2006 with his incredible tale of the Global Hawk strike. Before he admitted he had fabricated the whole incident, Danner’s self-destructing testimony also dragged in Bollyn as well as fellow anti-Zionist conspiratainer Michael Collins Piper.

http://frustratingfraud.blogspot.com/2007/05/global-hawk-theory.html
 

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