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hypocritexposer

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"Dude, this guy tried to "home invade" me once, with his handgun, so I pulled out my AR, with the drum of 30 attached, and he was history...he left so fast, I think he left his soiled underwear and his socks. He was planning on getting gun violent, I think."
 
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Anonymous

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They need to listen to Joe Biden-- he's putting out the best info... The best home defense gun is a double barrel coach gun- in either 20 or 12 gauge depending on who is using it- and how petite the women of the house are...I often prefer the 20 gauge because often the whole family enjoys shooting it more- and the more you shoot and get familiar with the gun, the more dangerous you are to the bad guy...

Easy to learn how to use- from first sight, demands a lot more respect than some little pea shooter handgun- still likely to get a good hit in stressful conditions- and if using the right ammo, won't go penetrating 2-3 walls and doors and killing some of your family in another room.....

And there are hundreds available- used or new- at a price that won't come close to costing as much as most the gung ho Chuck Norris wannabe's spend on their supply of clips and attachments to make their assault weapon system...

The only thing I'd add to this would be a sling- and a shell holder on the stock...
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger-coach-guns.php
 

Whitewing

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hopalong

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Chuck Norris is much more likely to use his hands and feet than an assault weapon oldtimer,,been watching too many movies and listening to your wanna be cult followers :roll: :roll:


But then no one expects YOU to follow facts when it is eaisier for you to distort the truth

http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/liars-anonymous/joinreg
 
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Anonymous

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smalltime said:
I agree with you oldtimer on the 20 ga. for home defence.The judge is a fun little tool also.

The Judge is a great defense weapon... My decision and advising folks on the 20 gauge coach gun came to be long before the Judge was born... And I still contend it takes a lot less time to teach someone to safely load and operate and care for a double barrel than it does any short barreled pistol...And the problem of extra rounds is easily handled with one of those cheap stretchy shell holders on the stock and/or one on the sling... Easily pack an extra 10 rounds...

The Judge (altho I prefer S & W's Governor) is a good gun for a lady if she wants only one to pack everywhere with her... I've sent some in that direction- altho I believe they must be committed to more training and practice to adequately be able to operate it...
 

okfarmer

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Your still off on trying to justify the double barrel. In a defense situation, the last thing you want to do is have to reload- especially after only 2 shots. It is hard enough to reload quickly when hunting or having fun, much less when you are afraid for your life. It proves you are still more interested in supporting a bunch of socialist left wingers at all costs than having an intelligent conversation. The most acceptable and intelligent statement the idiot could have said would be: If you think someone is trying to break in, call 911 and if your trying to prevent a confrontation, rack your pump shot gun. There is no sound more universally terrifying to trespasser.

A pump that holds 6 or more shots is the best home defense shot gun and is why they are promoted as such. It is far easier to rack a pump then have to reload shells in a double barrel.

Last time I was hanging out with a real law enforcement officer, there was a pump sitting between us. I have yet to see a double barrel in a cruiser.

And I love double barrels.
 

Mike

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http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-taurus-raging-judge-28-gauge-revolver/

Note*

The newer Raging Judge Magnum shoots the .454 Casull cartridge in addition to the .45 Colt and the .410 shells.

The .454 Casull is a bit much for an inexperienced shooter. Frail women especially.
 
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Anonymous

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okfarmer said:
Last time I was hanging out with a real law enforcement officer, there was a pump sitting between us. I have yet to see a double barrel in a cruiser.

And I love double barrels.

Years ago-our counties pumps (Ithacas) all got sold off because of their defect that took down a western Montana Officer...

So, since it was the time of no money- we all kind of bought weapons on our own...

And I got called in some very harry- scarey situations when everyone was packing all kinds of armament- and the old double barrel treated me well--- and the most memorable was when we were seizing 750+ cows off the reservation under one of the most conservative/honest District Judges ( Leonard Langen) order (which we were not sure the tribes and feds would back-- but did)-- and all those nutcases opposing the order came out waving around every type of shooting iron there was besides playing everything on CNN...
I will never forget when my Deputy and a State Livestock Investigator called me out of my kids Church Christmas ceremony because they were in the middle of a shootout near Pass Creek- over this order.... All that was lost was some beat up people/black eyes and one calf that they fought over.........
But they were gearing up for an ownership war....
When I showed up- and I finally met up with the rabble rouser crew of 40+ family members supporting the owner crew that had threatened everyone- and had not fed anything to or taken care of their cattle for years-- I had the old 12 gauge coach gun layed over my arm -- and the intent and wishes they had of paying no bills and being above "the law of the land" ---lost a lot of credibility to the intent and wishes of that sweet little 12 gauge coach gun.... :wink:
 

Whitewing

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I like the idea of a pistol that can deliver several loads of #4's in someone's general direction.

If I had to go with a shotgun during the night, I'd want a pump-action weapon with the plug out. At the first hint of trouble, chamber a round.

Anyone who hears the sound of a round being chambered in the dead of night in a pump-action shotgun, knows what it is and is going to make haste in the opposite direction.
 

Mike

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Ithaca Model 37 pumps, designed and patented by John Moses Browning, as a rule had no design flaws.

Except when someone gets in a hurry, panics and "Short-Shucks" it.

Don't give a pump shotgun to someone who isn't used to shooting pumps. It takes years to get the full "gist" of them.
 

Whitewing

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Mike said:
Ithaca Model 37 pumps, designed and patented by John Moses Browning, as a rule had no design flaws.

Except when someone gets in a hurry, panics and "Short-Shucks" it.

Don't give a pump shotgun to someone who isn't used to shooting pumps. It takes years to get the full "gist" of them.

Mike, I shot an Ithaca Model 37 for years and flat loved it.

I also shot a Browning Auto 5 but what I liked about the Ithaca was the bottom eject. Since I'm left handed, shooting the Browning into a stiff breeze often resulted in blow back of unburned powder into my eyes as the shell was ejected. No such problem with the Ithaca.
 

Mike

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Whitewing said:
Mike said:
Ithaca Model 37 pumps, designed and patented by John Moses Browning, as a rule had no design flaws.

Except when someone gets in a hurry, panics and "Short-Shucks" it.

Don't give a pump shotgun to someone who isn't used to shooting pumps. It takes years to get the full "gist" of them.

Mike, I shot an Ithaca Model 37 for years and flat loved it.

I also shot a Browning Auto 5 but what I liked about the Ithaca was the bottom eject. Since I'm left handed, shooting the Browning into a stiff breeze often resulted in blow back of unburned powder into my eyes as the shell was ejected. No such problem with the Ithaca.

Yep, they are a hard to beat, except with a Win Model 12. They are an engineering wonder even today.....................

http://www.ithacagun.com/defense37s.html

Oh, I forgot to mention, the #37 and the #12 will both "Slam Fire".
 

Whitewing

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Mike said:
Whitewing said:
Mike said:
Ithaca Model 37 pumps, designed and patented by John Moses Browning, as a rule had no design flaws.

Except when someone gets in a hurry, panics and "Short-Shucks" it.

Don't give a pump shotgun to someone who isn't used to shooting pumps. It takes years to get the full "gist" of them.

Mike, I shot an Ithaca Model 37 for years and flat loved it.

I also shot a Browning Auto 5 but what I liked about the Ithaca was the bottom eject. Since I'm left handed, shooting the Browning into a stiff breeze often resulted in blow back of unburned powder into my eyes as the shell was ejected. No such problem with the Ithaca.

Oh, I forgot to mention, the #37 and the #12 will both "Slam Fire".

Never had the pleasure of slam firing a model 12, but definitely experienced it with the 37. Too darned excited with a flock of speckle bellies overhead. :D
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
They need to listen to Joe Biden-- he's putting out the best info...



Tom Shellenberger, a lawyer who serves as a spokesman for the Delaware State Sportsmen's Association

"I am a member of the Delaware Bar, as is Vice President Biden," noted Shellenberger. "There are a number of statutory restrictions that could be violated by shooting a shotgun 'off the porch.'"

In addition to felony charges, Shellenberger cited the "Discharge of a firearm within 15 yards of a road (7 Del.C. § 719), a misdemeanor," and "Violation of the residential dwelling safety zone as set forth in 7 Del.C. § 723, also a misdemeanor."



"I just took a concealed carry class here in Florida in order to get my license to do so," writes Jack Thompson, a retired Florida attorney. "The instructors, who are very good, make it clear that just as a matter of common sense you don't fire warning shots of any kind because a) you are unloading your gun, which makes it useless should the invasion continue, b) you are putting others at risk by firing warning shots, c) maybe most importantly, you eliminate the element of surprise that you have if there is an intruder and you are waiting for him behind a closed door. Bang! Who is going to be surprised, you or he? and d) the castle doctrine, that you can kill anybody breaking into your home, does not extend to discharging weapons outside your home. Let's say you fire a warning shot, and the intruder sees you, Jill Biden, up on the balcony, and then that intruder does something provocative, like pointing his gun or shouting or whatever. You do not have a legal right to use deadly force, which you might be prompted to do, when you are outside of your home or castle."


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-advises-gun-owners-act-illegally_703076.html
 
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