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Shielding Science from Politics

Cal

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How much more money are we talking about, or will the research budget remain constant and money be re-allocated from other projects?
 

aplusmnt

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When did it become the Government job to try to heal people from injuries or sickness? I want my tax dollars to go for military, police, fire departments, roads and basic infrastructure.

Every sickness can not be solved there will always be sick or injured people. To tax everyone so superman could walk again because he chose to get on a horse is ridiculous!
 

hypocritexposer

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And wouldn't compassion include spending this money on definite lives saved.

Stem cell tech. is not totally proven, feeding starving children is.

Is it not politics to make a decision for me, to where my dollars go! If I donate those same dollars through my church, I have more input on how they are spent!
 

Cal

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hypocritexposer said:
And wouldn't compassion include spending this money on definite lives saved.

Stem cell tech. is not totally proven, feeding starving children is.

Is it not politics to make a decision for me, to where my dollars go! If I donate those same dollars through my church, I have more input on how they are spent!
That's why it's so important to BO to eliminate the tax deduction on donations to your church.
 

leanin' H

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How is a political driven left-wing agenda on climate change, abortion and stem-cell research not pushing your political position on Science? Al Gore's entire posistion is based on politics! Obama is cussing Bush for using the exact same tactics that he is using himself now! The ONLY difference is the politics! And he probably figures we all are too stupid to realize it!
 
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leanin' H said:
How is a political driven left-wing agenda on climate change, abortion and stem-cell research not pushing your political position on Science? Al Gore's entire posistion is based on politics! Obama is cussing Bush for using the exact same tactics that he is using himself now! The ONLY difference is the politics! And he probably figures we all are too stupid to realize it!

But Bush/Cheney had their administration agencies and departments scientific reports censored, altered, and put out false science to promote/support their political agenda....Hard to split political decisions from science- but altering science to fit backing your political agenda- and then promoting it to the public with that false science is wrong...
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
leanin' H said:
How is a political driven left-wing agenda on climate change, abortion and stem-cell research not pushing your political position on Science? Al Gore's entire posistion is based on politics! Obama is cussing Bush for using the exact same tactics that he is using himself now! The ONLY difference is the politics! And he probably figures we all are too stupid to realize it!

But Bush/Cheney had their administration agencies and departments scientific reports censored, altered, and put out false science to promote/support their political agenda....Hard to split political decisions from science- but altering science to fit backing your political agenda- and then promoting it to the public with that false science is wrong...

sure wish al gore and would follow your advice...
 

leanin' H

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Oldtimer said:
leanin' H said:
How is a political driven left-wing agenda on climate change, abortion and stem-cell research not pushing your political position on Science? Al Gore's entire posistion is based on politics! Obama is cussing Bush for using the exact same tactics that he is using himself now! The ONLY difference is the politics! And he probably figures we all are too stupid to realize it!

But Bush/Cheney had their administration agencies and departments scientific reports censored, altered, and put out false science to promote/support their political agenda....Hard to split political decisions from science- but altering science to fit backing your political agenda- and then promoting it to the public with that false science is wrong...

What do ya call Al Gore's entire mission? And the current admin's scare tactics to push us into socialism? Clinton had us all beliving Bin Laden wasnt a threat. The new guy is just getting started stretching the truth and talking out of both sides of his face. Can't wait till he gets going! :wink:
 

Steve

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reader (the Second) said:
Oldtimer said:
leanin' H said:
How is a political driven left-wing agenda on climate change, abortion and stem-cell research not pushing your political position on Science? Al Gore's entire posistion is based on politics! Obama is cussing Bush for using the exact same tactics that he is using himself now! The ONLY difference is the politics! And he probably figures we all are too stupid to realize it!


But Bush/Cheney had their administration agencies and departments scientific reports censored, altered, and put out false science to promote/support their political agenda....Hard to split political decisions from science- but altering science to fit backing your political agenda- and then promoting it to the public with that false science is wrong...

I can promise you that the scientists at the FDA and NIH for instance are celebrating this change in philosophy. Non-scientists or pseudo-scientists were put in charge of research during the last administration and decisions were made purely on political grounds. Science and research were squelched. It's a shame that the article focused on stem cell research. I can promise you that the dumbing down of science and politicization of science was across the board under Bush.

why is it when others make a broad condenming statement, you request they "read a book" or back up thier comment..

can you show "evidence and proof" to back up your promise?
 

aplusmnt

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Steve said:
reader (the Second) said:
Oldtimer said:
But Bush/Cheney had their administration agencies and departments scientific reports censored, altered, and put out false science to promote/support their political agenda....Hard to split political decisions from science- but altering science to fit backing your political agenda- and then promoting it to the public with that false science is wrong...

I can promise you that the scientists at the FDA and NIH for instance are celebrating this change in philosophy. Non-scientists or pseudo-scientists were put in charge of research during the last administration and decisions were made purely on political grounds. Science and research were squelched. It's a shame that the article focused on stem cell research. I can promise you that the dumbing down of science and politicization of science was across the board under Bush.

why is it when others make a broad condenming statement, you request they "read a book" or back up thier comment..

can you show "evidence and proof" to back up your promise?

A friend told her! :wink:
 

MsSage

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Science says that most of the advancments have been done using ADULT stem cell.

Clinton also had the same policy on stem cell as Bush :roll:
The world did not begin with Bush but, it seem with some on here they refuse to look any further back then that.

Forgot to ask........
Where is the science in partial birth abortion?
 

badaxemoo

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aplusmnt said:
I want my tax dollars to go for military, police, fire departments, roads and basic infrastructure.

Welfare Boy!

Socialist!

If you are worried about your house burning down, go buy your own fire truck.

It's about time people started doing for themselves again and stop relying on the government to extinguish their blazing homes.
 

hypocritexposer

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As Mrs Greg says, the first time they know someone whose life could have been saved through NIH research, they will come on board and whine about how come the government didn't conduct research.

One life, how about saving many lives, with the same amount of money?
 

Mike

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Only two things the Federal Gubment should do is "Guard the Coast" and "Tote the Mail".

Close down Dept of Education & leave that to the individual States.

Close down HHS. Same reason.

Shut down the EPA. Same.

Etc., Etc., Etc.
 
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