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solution to unemployment

jigs

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Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the
deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American
citizens that desperately needed work..



Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal's after WWII to create jobs
for returning veterans.



And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million
Mexican Nationals! The program was called 'Operation Wetback'. It was
done so WWII and Korean Veterans would have a better chance at jobs..
It took 2 Years, but they deported them!

send the bastards home NOW!!!
 

backhoeboogie

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CattleArmy said:
How many unemployed would do the jobs the illegals do?

That's exactly to the point. I think we have become lazy. You're not going to find many Americans on the end of a rock bar busting limestone for fence post holes. Especially on 100 degree days like today. People make fun of me for being a hard worker. Especially my BIL. Heck, I aint got nothing on my Dad or either Grandad. They worked.
 

TSR

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What gets me is how our politicians (both sides) say its not feasable/impossible to round up and send the illegals back. That's nothing but a lie. It will take some time but it can be done.

As for who will do the work??? Are we going to put cheap labor above our Constitution/laws??
 
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Anonymous

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TSR said:
What gets me is how our politicians (both sides) say its not feasable/impossible to round up and send the illegals back. That's nothing but a lie. It will take some time but it can be done.

As for who will do the work??? Are we going to put cheap labor above our Constitution/laws??

The Immigration Reform Act of 1986- signed into law by President Reagan-that gave many (2.7 million) illegals amnesty and a path to citizenship- was supposed to take care of the problem by adding greater border security and making it illegal for anyone to hire an illegal....

The problem is- that since that time- Big Business and the rich and elite have controlled D.C.- and the law has seldom been enforced in the past 25 years....

Now after 25 years of nonenforcement- they want another "immigration reform" act :???: Which this time may give 20 million illegals amnesty...
 

leanin' H

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Oldtimer said:
TSR said:
What gets me is how our politicians (both sides) say its not feasable/impossible to round up and send the illegals back. That's nothing but a lie. It will take some time but it can be done.

As for who will do the work??? Are we going to put cheap labor above our Constitution/laws??

The Immigration Reform Act of 1986- signed into law by President Reagan-that gave many (2.7 million) illegals amnesty and a path to citizenship- was supposed to take care of the problem by adding greater border security and making it illegal for anyone to hire an illegal....

The problem is- that since that time- Big Business and the rich and elite have controlled D.C.- and the law has seldom been enforced in the past 25 years....

By that would ya mean the Democrats? :wink:
As far as doing the work, to me that is easy! NO WELFARE! NO FOOD STAMPS! NO GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE AT ALL until a week's worth of work is put in. If your disabled, we'll find a book-keeping or admin job for ya! If you are able bodied then pick up a shovel or a tomato basket or a hammer and get your butt to work! But I am sure the Liberals RUNNING Washington D.C. would scream about lazy peoples rights and shoot the whole thing down! The Dems would love to see amnesty as they could pander and lie to the "new citizens" and get another special interest voting block to re-elect the numbskulls!

Now after 25 years of nonenforcement- they want another "immigration reform" act :???: Which this time may give 20 million illegals amnesty...
 
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Leanin H- it has not been enforced by anyone after it was signed- Republican or Democrat....Reagan and everyone since him have been pro-NAFTA- pro globalization- pro Big Business, and have done little to enforce either the border restrictions or the penalties against the illegality of hiring illegals.....

The biggest opponent to enforcement of any laws against illegals or hiring illegals has been the US Chamber of Commerce....
 

aplusmnt

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CattleArmy said:
How many unemployed would do the jobs the illegals do?

Lots of them would, because once the illegals are gone, then the free market would push up the wages. Illegals and a flood of people that will do cheap labor keep the prices low.

Example: At what point would you mow grass? Would you do it for $8.00 and hour? How about $15.00 an hour? How about $20.00 and hour? Illegals keep prices low because they will do it for lower price.

Once you get less workers, supply and demand pushes wages up to a point where lots of people who would not have did it in past will now do it. So now those jobs that liberals like to say no one will do, will start getting filled because of paying better.

Simple economics!
 

Steve

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aplusmnt said:
CattleArmy said:
How many unemployed would do the jobs the illegals do?

Lots of them would, because once the illegals are gone, then the free market would push up the wages. Illegals and a flood of people that will do cheap labor keep the prices low.

Example: At what point would you mow grass? Would you do it for $8.00 and hour? How about $15.00 an hour? How about $20.00 and hour? Illegals keep prices low because they will do it for lower price.

Once you get less workers, supply and demand pushes wages up to a point where lots of people who would not have did it in past will now do it. So now those jobs that liberals like to say no one will do, will start getting filled because of paying better.

Simple economics!

we have several out of work landscapers who would mow your lawn for $8 an hour.. and plenty of illegals who will do it for $5 if you provide the mower..
 

jigs

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Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
How many unemployed would do the jobs the illegals do?

Take away their food stamps and government housing and you'll see more of those jobs being filled.

finally, someone sees the light, and it is a frigging husker fan.....

you get rid of the illegals, end welfare, and once the lazy bastards who have been raised on entitlments and the idea that the govt. owes them something will realize that if they don't go do some work they will starve.

this nation WILL NOT LAST with the current belief of "they owe me" and instant gratification.
 

TSR

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aplusmnt said:
CattleArmy said:
How many unemployed would do the jobs the illegals do?

Lots of them would, because once the illegals are gone, then the free market would push up the wages. Illegals and a flood of people that will do cheap labor keep the prices low.

Example: At what point would you mow grass? Would you do it for $8.00 and hour? How about $15.00 an hour? How about $20.00 and hour? Illegals keep prices low because they will do it for lower price.

Once you get less workers, supply and demand pushes wages up to a point where lots of people who would not have did it in past will now do it. So now those jobs that liberals like to say no one will do, will start getting filled because of paying better.

Simple economics!

"Those jobs liberals like to say no one will do" The first person I heard say that on national tv was George Bush.
Regarding welfare, maybe someone here can answer a question. Are you still allowed to work and earn so much while drawing a welfare check? I know a guy that draws a disability check (bad back) and openly runs all over town mowing yards.
 

MoGal

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The problem is that illegals come here and get on all the government programs, Hud housing, food stamps, WIC, and all other government perks........... then they work for cash and get government benefits as well.

Its one thing for them to come here but they should NOT be able to get ANY government benefits.

If they can't make a go of it by working, then go home.

The american people are NOT exploiting the illegals, it is corporate business who wants the American taxpayer to pay all the illegals government benefits, health insurance (thru Medicaid) and education benefits for their children.

What people don't understand is that the government has put these social programs in place so that people WILL be dependent upon the government. When you control a person's money, then you control the person and can make demands they would not otherwise do.......... for example, anyone get WIC for their newborn up to 5 y/o, they insist children get their immunizations. They don't bother to tell you that you can refuse the immunizations but make it sound like its mandatory. There's too much controversial info out there on vaccinations that I constantly fuss with my niece to not get the kids vaccines and I've had to go head to head with some of these people on her behalf, because the vaccines are a bad deal and there's no accountability from the pharmaceutical company and what they put in the vaccine.

I don't know if its true, but my folks spend half the year in southern california and Mom was saying the other day that when illegals come over here they get six months of SSI (now SSI is when you have not worked enough quarters under social security to be eligible for SSA benefits). The government sure tries to keep it all hushed up as to how much illegals actually cost the American taxpayer.

TSR- It depends on what he is drawing (I don't know about SSI - supplemental security income, but SSA allows you to work and make $800 a month and it is not considered gainfully employed and of course if he's mowing lawns he probably gets paid cash so there's no reporting of income.
 

Steve

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The American people are NOT exploiting the illegals,

how can anyone say an illegal is getting exploited?

they choose to come here..

they have to break laws just to get here..

they pay money to get here

they risk their life to get here..

once here they pay more for fake paperwork..

then they actively look for jobs.. even standing on corners when they can't find a job with a sign seeking work..

once they get a job.. they ask if you have another job for a friend..

if your getting exploited, why would you seek a job for a friend?

seems to me, we either think hispanics are really stupid...

or the exploitation isn't happening here but in Mexico.. and the job and opportunity we offer up here is worth the risk.. *





* and with that said... I am not naive enough to not know that some employers do practice illegal activities and do actually exploit workers,.. and those employers who are exploiting any worker.. illegal or not.. they should be deported as well.. (or at least jailed)
 

CattleArmy

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jigs said:
Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
How many unemployed would do the jobs the illegals do?

Take away their food stamps and government housing and you'll see more of those jobs being filled.

finally, someone sees the light, and it is a frigging husker fan.....

you get rid of the illegals, end welfare, and once the lazy bastards who have been raised on entitlments and the idea that the govt. owes them something will realize that if they don't go do some work they will starve.

this nation WILL NOT LAST with the current belief of "they owe me" and instant gratification.

So are we gonna give up our drought assistance and crop subsides too?

Aren't those welfare programs too?
 

MoGal

Well-known member
CattleArmy said:
jigs said:
Sandhusker said:
Take away their food stamps and government housing and you'll see more of those jobs being filled.

finally, someone sees the light, and it is a frigging husker fan.....

you get rid of the illegals, end welfare, and once the lazy bastards who have been raised on entitlments and the idea that the govt. owes them something will realize that if they don't go do some work they will starve.

this nation WILL NOT LAST with the current belief of "they owe me" and instant gratification.

So are we gonna give up our drought assistance and crop subsides too?

Aren't those welfare programs too?

Wake up, chemtrails and HAARP control the weather. Yes I know, God is still in control but our government uses chemtrails and HAARP to manipulate the agriculture to drive the price up and down on the stock market. Up until four days ago (we've had heat index of 105 to 109 and actual temps in the 90's ) we'd had rain every day since May 8th (and that was when I started counting so I don't know before that however we've had plenty of rain before May 8th as we had to plant our own garden 3 times due to the weather) except for 2 days. Now don't tell me that was just an "act of God".

Many farmers, especially on the riverbottoms were not able to get their corn out and will now have to go to soybeans.

Congress knows this and they realize they can't cut out the subsidies or they would have the farmers up in arms and the farmers would be bankrupt. An angry, bankrupt man is not a pretty sight and most of them are on the right wing extremist list as well............ so at this point in time I don't think you have to worry about losing ag money. Maybe a few years from now it might be a different story...... but I keep hoping more people will wake up and do a search on chemtrails and HAARP and understand what they can do.

 

Steve

Well-known member
MoGal said:
CattleArmy said:
jigs said:
finally, someone sees the light, and it is a frigging husker fan.....

you get rid of the illegals, end welfare, and once the lazy bastards who have been raised on entitlments and the idea that the govt. owes them something will realize that if they don't go do some work they will starve.

this nation WILL NOT LAST with the current belief of "they owe me" and instant gratification.

So are we gonna give up our drought assistance and crop subsides too?

Aren't those welfare programs too?

Wake up, chemtrails and HAARP control the weather. Yes I know, God is still in control but our government uses chemtrails and HAARP to manipulate the agriculture to drive the price up and down on the stock market. Up until four days ago (we've had heat index of 105 to 109 and actual temps in the 90's ) we'd had rain every day since May 8th (and that was when I started counting so I don't know before that however we've had plenty of rain before May 8th as we had to plant our own garden 3 times due to the weather) except for 2 days. Now don't tell me that was just an "act of God".

Many farmers, especially on the riverbottoms were not able to get their corn out and will now have to go to soybeans.

Congress knows this and they realize they can't cut out the subsidies or they would have the farmers up in arms and the farmers would be bankrupt. An angry, bankrupt man is not a pretty sight and most of them are on the right wing extremist list as well............ so at this point in time I don't think you have to worry about losing ag money. Maybe a few years from now it might be a different story...... but I keep hoping more people will wake up and do a search on chemtrails and HAARP and understand what they can do.


HAARP,... The research team put together to gather the materials which eventually found their way into the book never held a formal meeting, never formed a formal organization.

Each person acted like a node on a planetary info-spirit-net with one goal held by all -- to keep this controversial new science in the public eye.

maybe one of the nodes, of the "planetary info-spirit-net" caused a shift in the telsa technology and will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam.. which will cause massive chemtrail formations. and a rise in crop subsidies.. thus ending the drought.. an we will then have abundant rain.
 

jigs

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the farm payments have a place, but the loopholes allowing millionaires to pull down HUGE chunks of money are absurd.
like any govt program, it is raped by the greedy.
 

Mrs.Greg

Well-known member
Steve said:
MoGal said:
CattleArmy said:
So are we gonna give up our drought assistance and crop subsides too?

Aren't those welfare programs too?

Wake up, chemtrails and HAARP control the weather. Yes I know, God is still in control but our government uses chemtrails and HAARP to manipulate the agriculture to drive the price up and down on the stock market. Up until four days ago (we've had heat index of 105 to 109 and actual temps in the 90's ) we'd had rain every day since May 8th (and that was when I started counting so I don't know before that however we've had plenty of rain before May 8th as we had to plant our own garden 3 times due to the weather) except for 2 days. Now don't tell me that was just an "act of God".

Many farmers, especially on the riverbottoms were not able to get their corn out and will now have to go to soybeans.

Congress knows this and they realize they can't cut out the subsidies or they would have the farmers up in arms and the farmers would be bankrupt. An angry, bankrupt man is not a pretty sight and most of them are on the right wing extremist list as well............ so at this point in time I don't think you have to worry about losing ag money. Maybe a few years from now it might be a different story...... but I keep hoping more people will wake up and do a search on chemtrails and HAARP and understand what they can do.


HAARP,... The research team put together to gather the materials which eventually found their way into the book never held a formal meeting, never formed a formal organization.

Each person acted like a node on a planetary info-spirit-net with one goal held by all -- to keep this controversial new science in the public eye.

maybe one of the nodes, of the "planetary info-spirit-net" caused a shift in the telsa technology and will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam.. which will cause massive chemtrail formations. and a rise in crop subsidies.. thus ending the drought.. an we will then have abundant rain.
Drought ridden Alberta gal hopes that happens Steve..... :D :wink:
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
Example: At what point would you mow grass? Would you do it for $8.00 and hour? How about $15.00 an hour? How about $20.00 and hour? Illegals keep prices low because they will do it for lower price.

You'd better wake up and smell the coffee Aplus.

They're busting up limestone in these parts. Paying the landowner $10 a ton for patio and building stone and hauling out 30 to 40 tons a day. They sell it for $50 to $100 a ton depending on quality. Do the math.

It does not take a lot of 50 pound stones to make a ton.

They bring in their kin to work for them and pay them well.

They all drive the best trucks in the county.

It is hard work but I cannot figure out how I can do the same thing at 50 years old but a 20 year old aint willing to stack patio stone on pallets. It is big money. Seriously.
 
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