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SOME CONFUSION ON RULE 2 ?

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HAY MAKER

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Printed From North Texas e-News

Washington, D.C. - Cattle producers were pleased to learn that a bipartisan group of four Senators from major cattle-producing states sent a letter of concern to Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns regarding the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA's) proposed rule (Rule 2) that would permit live Canadian cattle born after March 1, 1999, to be imported into the United States.

USDA published this proposed rule in the Federal Register on Jan. 9. In particular, the rule deals with Canadian cattle over 30 months (OTM) of age. Public comments on the proposal are due March 12. Authors of the letter to USDA were: Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., and Sen. John Thune, R-S.D.

"Increasing U.S. imports of Canadian cattle and beef at this time would have a significant negative impact on the economic well-being of American cattle producers and could seriously disrupt our efforts to expand U.S. beef exports overseas...Furthermore, expanding Canadian cattle imports increases the possibility that a future case of BSE in a Canadian animal may be found in the United States. Three of Canada's nine BSE cases occurred in cattle born long after the March 1, 1999 date proposed in the rule..." the letter stated in part.

"R-CALF thanks these four Senators for recognizing this issue is critical to independent U.S. cattle producers, and we hope other members of Congress will follow their lead in urging USDA to withdraw this proposed rule at once," said R-CALF USA President and Region VI Director Max Thornsberry, a veterinarian who also chairs the R-CALF USA Animal Health Committee.

Specifically, Thornsberry said, R-CALF USA requests USDA to rescind Rule 2 for the following reasons:

1) The U.S. should not give additional access to the U.S. market until the United States fully regains the share of global export markets it lost since the 2003 discovery of a BSE-positive Canadian cow that was imported into Washington state.

2) The U.S. should not further relax its already lenient import standards until it can be scientifically documented that BSE is no longer circulating in Canadian feed or OTM Canadian cattle and there is international acceptance for such a conclusion.

3) The U.S. should not allow the importation of OTM cattle or beef, which are known to be of higher risk for transmitting BSE, particularly now that the disease is known to have been circulating in animals born years after the Canadian feed ban was implemented in 1997.

4) The U.S. should not allow OTM cattle or beef from Canada until both the U.S. and Canada have significantly strengthened their respective feed bans, and sufficient time has lapsed to ascertain the effectiveness of any feed-ban improvements. Given the known breeches in Canada's feed ban, Canada must significantly ramp up its BSE testing so that the effectiveness of its feed ban can be more accurately monitored.

5) The U.S. should not allow OTM Canadian cattle or beef into the United States until the U.S. additionally obtains firm assurances from all U.S. beef export markets - and the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) - that the United States' BSE-risk profile would not be downgraded to Canada's level if the Canadian OTM cattle and beef are allowed into the U.S. market and available for export.

6) The U.S. should not allow OTM Canadian cattle or beef into the United States until the U.S. additionally implements country-of-origin labeling (COOL) to mitigate the financial harm that will inevitably befall U.S. cattle producers, and that likely will be more severe than what USDA will predict.
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I recieved a "PM" indicating there may have been some confusion about Rule 2 in my previous post/poll,so in the interest of fairness,here it is again in plain english......................good luck
 

HAY MAKER

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The USDA is proposing opening the border prematurely to over thirty month live cattle,all the cattlemens assc. have expressed concern indicating the latest Canadian post feed ban case of BSE,makes it plain that is to early and to much risk to allow live cattle to co mingle with the UNITED STATES herd..............good luck
 

rkaiser

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You better be careful Oldtimer, when more Rcalf folks actually read the rule and find out that it will actually hold Canadian cows up from crossing the border, no amount of change of wording will stop Rcalf supporters from Supporting Rule 2.

Confused yet --- still ---- always ?????
 

HAY MAKER

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rkaiser said:
You better be careful Oldtimer, when more Rcalf folks actually read the rule and find out that it will actually hold Canadian cows up from crossing the border, no amount of change of wording will stop Rcalf supporters from Supporting Rule 2.


Randy,what are you drinking tonite ? I bet it's good stuff LOL..............good luck
 
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HAY MAKER said:
Randy,what are you drinking tonite ? I bet it's good stuff LOL..............good luck

Haymaker- I think ol Kaiser's coming off about a week long drunk--Having DT's-- He's been over on Agriville rambling about his old escapades and love affair with some hereford raising sweet young thing and mumbling about becoming a Muslim (Ali Ben Kaiser :roll: :lol: )-- and running for President...I think he's fantasyzing about Hillary now :roll: Poor Boy...Must have got hold of some of that old French wine or something- cause good whiskey won't let you see the snakes he's seeing... Even Thunderbird or Mad Dog wouldn't give you Hillary visions...... :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

HAY MAKER

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rkaiser said:
Do you know what the rule says Hayshaker?

Yes I do,but Im sure you think I dont so,let's hear your version............I guess tht'a where you are trying to take this LOL................good luck
 

rkaiser

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Well first off Haymaker. Do you think you can guess the age of a cow after she's four years old? And if you can, are you going to be able to convince the USDA of her age?

1999 and younger is all they are going to let walk or ride live across the line. How is anyone going to age verify even a four year old cow.

Thus the Rule will once again allow Cargill and TYson to retain their captive Canadian market, and bury your northern state plants even further in their own SRM'S.

The beef will roll Haymaker, and there is no way in hell you will stop it. Just like the boxes rolled a few short months after the border closed the first time.

The Cargil/Tyson led USDA will make as much hay as they can from this thing until Canadians wake up and get out of this mess with "TESTING FOR OFFSHORE EXPORT MARKETS'

Hey Oldtimer, I hope you are enjoying the entertainment up on agriville - I only do it to make your head spin with envy you know.
 

HAY MAKER

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Oldtimer said:
HAY MAKER said:
Randy,what are you drinking tonite ? I bet it's good stuff LOL..............good luck

Haymaker- I think ol Kaiser's coming off about a week long drunk--Having DT's-- He's been over on Agriville rambling about his old escapades and love affair with some hereford raising sweet young thing and mumbling about becoming a Muslim (Ali Ben Kaiser :roll: :lol: )-- and running for President...I think he's fantasyzing about Hillary now :roll: Poor Boy...Must have got hold of some of that old French wine or something- cause good whiskey won't let you see the snakes he's seeing... Even Thunderbird or Mad Dog wouldn't give you Hillary visions...... :wink: :lol: :lol:

Im gonna hafta go over there and see what he is up to,that sweet lil hereford raising thing is probably whiteface,she disappeared around here..........always wondered what become of her,now I know Randy is holding her captive...............good luck
 

rkaiser

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Geez Haymaker, your'e loosing ground compared to the first poll. Is Rcalf truly dead, or are some of them boys thinkin that Rule 2 may be their only hope of stopping terrorist Canadian cows from crossing the line. Either way you and the Rcalf team is lost in space and becoming the laughing stock of the industry. Grab a life jacket and abandon ship along with he rest old boy before it's too late. They might come after you for unpaid debts.
 

Tam

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rkaiser said:
Geez Haymaker, your'e loosing ground compared to the first poll. Is Rcalf truly dead, or are some of them boys thinkin that Rule 2 may be their only hope of stopping terrorist Canadian cows from crossing the line. Either way you and the Rcalf team is lost in space and becoming the laughing stock of the industry. Grab a life jacket and abandon ship along with he rest old boy before it's too late. They might come after you for unpaid debts.

Don't worry Randy chances are Haymaker and Oldtimer will be held up in a nice cozy little sheep camp for two in the Mountains of Wyoming until the heat is off. :wink: :lol:

Maybe Sandhusker and ocm should join them so Old hide behind the computer all day Sandhusker has an alibi when the R-CLOWN bandits hit his bank and steal the Christmas party fund to pay off those unpaid debts. He wouldn't want to testify to anything that might make R-CALF look bad Just a thought :wink:
 
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