yeah in that first picture you see that blue ridge way back there and then just before it you see another ridge well thats about were my country stops and then it goes on for about 14 miles directly behind me , and i think its anout 35 miles lfet to right lookin at the picture , that blue ridge way back there in the back ground you can see thats part of the oro ranch some of you folks might have heard of it before . Yeah gatherin these big pastures with trees in them is easy to me but i can see how it might be difficult for someone who hasnt done it but you just make what you call a drive and scatter your riders out like you would any were else , and you might be a mile from the guy on either side of you but you always flank to your men beside you and zig zag thru your country , and learn to read tracks that helps alot . But you just pikc it up over time .