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Someone should kick him in the ass!

CattleArmy

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Mrs.Greg said:
According to the CREW posting, the boy e-mailed a colleague in Alexander's office about Foley's e-mails, saying, "This freaked me out." On the request for a photo, the boy repeated the word "sick" 13 times.






These do not sound like the words of a consenting adult CRM. I think what you need to do is start letter writing your congress men,about getting the age of adult,changed to 18,because a 16 year old is still a child,even the reporter feels that way because he calls the young man "boy"

Mrs. Greg I do agree in my opinion they are just boys. I just pointed out the law.
 
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CattleArmy said:
First of thank you for your early morning insult. :roll:
First off, I didn't intend it as a personal insult. I apologize. I didn't realize that you were one of those.

Secondly, you said "early morning insult." Just what time do you get up? :lol:
 

Red Robin

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CattleArmy said:
Perhaps I should have said two consenting adults that choice does not effect me. At least I can think on my own and just don't follow the clique.
As I thought , you don't care about anyone but yourself. You aren't willing to take a stand which would protect the institute of marriage for the next generation. You aren't willing to stand for the kid that needs adoption to help see they have a normal family. That ME word says alot about your postion on several topics.
 

CattleArmy

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Faster horses said:
CattleArmy, "It's not wrong to be gay."

Does that mean is it RIGHT to be gay?

You're over your head on this one CattleArmy.


It's not wrong to be gay. If it were so terribly wrong they would not have been born with the urges. Who created gay people like that then?
 

CattleArmy

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Red Robin said:
CattleArmy said:
Perhaps I should have said two consenting adults that choice does not effect me. At least I can think on my own and just don't follow the clique.
As I thought , you don't care about anyone but yourself. You aren't willing to take a stand which would protect the institute of marriage for the next generation. You aren't willing to stand for the kid that needs adoption to help see they have a normal family. That ME word says alot about your postion on several topics.

If you ever read what I said you'd recall the post I made about how I felt the word marriage should be used only with a man and woman. If I only cared for myself why would I bother trying to get anyone else to see that the people that lead different lifestyles deserve the same level of respect as you and I do when they are consenting adults not hurting anyone else???

Read your own posts you are to busy pushing your beliefs down others throats to ever read what they say and maybe just get a different perspective on the topic or at least see it through anothers eyes.

I've on numerous occassions thanked someone for pointing out something to me and letting me learn something.
 

CattleArmy

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X said:
CattleArmy said:
First of thank you for your early morning insult. :roll:
First off, I didn't intend it as a personal insult. I apologize. I didn't realize that you were one of those.

Secondly, you said "early morning insult." Just what time do you get up? :lol:

5 a.m. and you?
 

floyd

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I see no one replied to my query about the leadership in the house apparently knowing about this pediphile for a long time.

Maybe that could be discussed without insulting each other?
 
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floyd said:
I see no one replied to my query about the leadership in the house apparently knowing about this pediphile for a long time.

Maybe that could be discussed without insulting each other?

Sure makes you wonder about the rational of the House Leadership appointing him/ allowing him to remain the Chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children Caucus

BOOT THEM ALL OUT.....

floyd- I think my post above sums it up...This move is just like having our Montana Senator Burns- who has been rated by every watchdog group and organization as one of the top scoundrels on the Hill- and is now tied into the huge Abramoff lobbying money for votes scandal- and he heads up one of the major Senate campaign ethics committees :???:

They are all tied together in a thieves code of silence on each other- they can't say anything against the other for fear of him snitching on them- and until we clean them all out, we'll keep having the mess...

I saw a new poll the other day where 77% of people disapproved of Congress and 61% thought that this was the worst Congress in history....
 

Red Robin

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floyd said:
I see no one replied to my query about the leadership in the house apparently knowing about this pediphile for a long time.

Maybe that could be discussed without insulting each other?
Sure Floyd. I'd like to throw them out as well. Trouble is not very many decent people are lined up wanting the job. Almost without exception the good honest men are underfunded and unknown. They get beat in the primaries. I think it's vitally important we elect people who are honest and decent and moral. If they aren't these , how can they be trusted to do what's right for the country when they get there????? It's disgusting. Until then I guess I'll continue to vote for the witch instead of the devil!
 

nonothing

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Red Robin said:
CattleArmy said:
Red Robin you must be so bored when I'm not here........
Bored or not, I prefer it.


RR you sure come across as a self centered pompass a$$....As far as religion goes,can you give me the verse in the bible where God says being gay is against him?I would imagine if it was as big as crime against God as you claim it to be, it would be written in the ten commandments*....As much as you come across in your own mind as a awesome person,you are no better than anyother person in Gods eye,so remember that and stop being such a rude ego driven blowhart.....

I want a direct quote to from God,not a verse where we must assume what his words mean.


*spelling
 

Red Robin

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nonothing said:
Red Robin said:
CattleArmy said:
Red Robin you must be so bored when I'm not here........
Bored or not, I prefer it.


RR you sure come across as a self centered pompass a$$....As far as religion goes,can you give me the verse in the bible where God says being gay is against him?I would imagine if it was as big as crime against God as you claim it to be, it would be written in the ten commandments*....As much as you come across in your own mind as a awesome person,you are no better than anyother person in Gods eye,so remember that and stop being such a rude ego driven blowhart.....

I want a direct quote to from God,not a verse where we must assume what his words mean.


*spelling
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination
 

Red Robin

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Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:


Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.


Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:


Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
 

Soapweed

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CattleArmy said:
Soapweed said:
CattleArmy said:
It's not wrong to be gay. I think the guy realized it was inapporpriate to be sending 16 year old boys text messages and what kinda underwear are you wearing e-mails. Through the preceding two actions I think he knew the American public would be outraged.

CattleArmy, I am just outraged that you are not outraged. You sure don't seem to share the same conservative cattle country ideals that most Sandhillers do. :(

Maybe it's because I got out of the Sandhills traveled some and realize there is a great big world out there besides these hills Soapweed. Maybe I've seen the pain on someone's face for the abuse they take for not being the same as everyone else yet not hurting anyone else with choices about their life they've made. Just maybe I try and look at a situation from anothers standpoint trying to not be to quick to pass judgement.

I do think that it was wrong for the man to be sending 16 year old's text messages and e-mails asking about their undergarments. I just pointed out that in Washington he's not considered a pedophile.

I try hard to not just go with the majority to form my own opinions on knowledge gained and go with what I feel. I prefer to make my own path rather then follow the trial forged by others.

Not at all do I think I know everything or am always right but if along the way I learn a thing or two and stand by what I think is fair then I think I've gained knowledge. Life is a learning experience and I'm not about to just go along with the conservitive cattle country ideal because it's easier and expected.

Somehow a line from the song THESE BOOTS ARE MADE FOR WALKING comes to mind: "Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet." :wink:

Cattle Army, in regard to gays, the practice just ain't right. God puts His foot down heavily and declares that it is wrong. Who am I supposed to believe, Him or you?

Believe it or not, I have friends that are gay. I like them, not because they are gay, but in spite of the fact that they are gay. We are supposed to hate sin, but love the sinner, just as God does.

Yes, there will always be gay people in this world. We can accept them and be nice to them, but we don't have to condone what they do as being right. To "condone" means to endorse, or give our stamp of approval on the practice. That is where I disagree with you. You think what they do is fine. I don't. I accept them, but don't condone what they do as being right.
 

Faster horses

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Very well put, Soapweed.

We have a gay friend as well. He keeps it to himself, has never
even so much as mentioned it in any way. He is a giving, caring
person and we care a lot about him and worry what might happen
to him.

But we still don't condone it.
 

Steve

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RR you sure come across as a self centered pompass a$$....As far as religion goes,can you give me the verse in the bible where God says being gay is against him?I would imagine if it was as big as crime against God as you claim it to be, it would be written in the ten commandments*....As much as you come across in your own mind as a awesome person,you are no better than anyother person in Gods eye,so remember that and stop being such a rude ego driven blowhart.....

was it you intent to insult or is being rude a liberal trait?

or are you just being hypocritical?

“Hypocritical” has a narrow, very specific meaning. It describes behavior or speech that is intended to make one look better or more pious than one really is.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/hypocritical.html
 

Cal

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Steve said:
RR you sure come across as a self centered pompass a$$....As far as religion goes,can you give me the verse in the bible where God says being gay is against him?I would imagine if it was as big as crime against God as you claim it to be, it would be written in the ten commandments*....As much as you come across in your own mind as a awesome person,you are no better than anyother person in Gods eye,so remember that and stop being such a rude ego driven blowhart.....

was it you intent to insult or is being rude a liberal trait?

or are you just being hypocritical?

“Hypocritical” has a narrow, very specific meaning. It describes behavior or speech that is intended to make one look better or more pious than one really is.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/hypocritical.html
"Blowhart"...what the hell is that?
 

Maple Leaf Angus

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CattleArmy said:
Faster horses said:
CattleArmy, "It's not wrong to be gay."

Does that mean is it RIGHT to be gay?

You're over your head on this one CattleArmy.


It's not wrong to be gay. If it were so terribly wrong they would not have been born with the urges. Who created gay people like that then?

I think you will have immense difficulty suppling evidence that anyone is "born with the urges", because there is no scientific or medical evidence to support that "theory". It is one that was fabricated to suit a political agenda.

You would have been interested to sit in a lecture I attended last week. It was the toughest class I have ever had to sit through. But it gave me a much better view of this horrific disorder.

The speaker was a man who has suffered from same gender attraction. He said that what precipitated his behavior was reading pornographic material and eventually led to homosexual actions.

His earliest recollections of his "urges" came at the time when he was in his early teens, a time when there can be severe uncertainty and distortions in one's sexual identity. He said that the influences one encounters and the subsequent choices one makes during that timeframe determines one's gender attraction.

This is a married man with children. He came to some concerned people with his shamefilled story and with their non-judgmental help and support, has broken what he said is one of the most powerful addictions one can encounter.

Today, he has chosen to leave that lifestyle behind and finds his wife satisfying in a way she never was before. But he said that he must not allow any of the past triggers into his life, or he could be drawn into that sickening pattern again. He admits to be vulnerable to the weakness the he developed through a series of very bad choices.

We all have our weaknesses. For some it is alcoholism. One of mine is a depressive nature. Another is angry rage. It is only as I freely own and admit my weaknesses to others that I can find help in overcoming them.

Well, I know that if I feed the weaknesses that I have (not of the same nature as his, thank God) they will take over in my life. So I believe his story without reservation.

It is interesting that the Apostle Paul lists homosexuality alongside a lot of other sins that will keep people from enjoying eternal life. Sins like greed, envy, ADULTERY . . ., sins that many Christian folks accept a lot more readily than homosexuality.

I guess it might be because it is a lot easier to put a good face on sins like greed - you can just say that someone is very ambitious, rather than greedy.

And rather than saying that someone is envious, you could call it "aspiration"!

It is sad that the church has singled out one sin over many others that are listed, and scapegoated it. We snicker off whatever other immorality is listed, but really nail homosexuality.

I believe that as long as we do not view ALL kinds of sin as despicable to God, we are like the Pharisees who brought to Jesus the woman caught in the act of adultery. (By the way, where was the man who was committing adultry with her?)

Jesus said that the person among them who was without sin could start the legally required stoning of the adulterer(ress).

So, who of us can throw the first stone?
 

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