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it is enlightening to go to the link and read the comments there also!


Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

Routine encounters with police can turn violent "at the drop of a hat," said Stuart McArthur, deputy assistant director in the FBI's counterterrorism division.

"We thought it was important to increase the visibility of the threat with state and local law enforcement," he said.

In May 2010, two West Memphis, Arkansas, police officers were shot and killed in an argument that developed after they pulled over a "sovereign citizen" in traffic.

Last year, an extremist in Texas opened fire on a police officer during a traffic stop. The officer was not hit.

Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.

"We are being inundated right now with requests for training from state and local law enforcement on sovereign-related matters," said Casey Carty, an FBI supervisory special agent.

FBI agents said they do not have a tally of people who consider themselves "sovereign citizens."

J.J. MacNab, a former tax and insurance expert who is an analyst covering the sovereign movement, has estimated that it has about 100,000 members.

Sovereign members often express particular outrage at tax collection, putting Internal Revenue Service employees at risk

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-usa-fbi-extremists-idUSTRE81600V20120207
 
Omigosh, much of this post could apply to the one percenters! :shock:
 
Also sad that the left will not say a word other than try to laugh it off. The left needs to speak up before this country is to far gone to save it. Then they will wonder what went wrong.
 
Lonecowboy said:
Mike said:
This is not satire?

sadly no, this is the state of our Union! :shock:

Are you serious? I knew we were in a helluva a pickle with that "Ni66a" in the Whitehouse but I never dreamed this bad...... :???: :???: :???:
 
Nothing new...The FBI has been tracking and doing continuing education to law enforcement agencies about extremist groups for over 40 years that I know of....Extremist on both sides- Freemen, Posee Comitatus, Aryan Nations, White Supremacists, Black Panthers, violent enviro groups etc. etc...
 
Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.

18 convictions.. ... for this we need to worry..

really even if every one of them was in one state, let alone a major city, it wouldn't even be a blip on the radar in terms of crime stats..
 
Steve said:
Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.

18 convictions.. ... for this we need to worry..

really even if every one of them was in one state, let alone a major city, it wouldn't even be a blip on the radar in terms of crime stats..

Exactly. Another report with no perspective on total crime. How many law officers have died at the hands of gangs in California alone last year- much less the entire US.

Pretty certain that most bangers aren't paying taxes. But probably these extremists defying the environmental regulations are likely much scarier.
 
Oldtimer said:
Nothing new...The FBI has been tracking and doing continuing education to law enforcement agencies about extremist groups for over 40 years that I know of....Extremist on both sides- Freemen, Posee Comitatus, Aryan Nations, White Supremacists, Black Panthers, violent enviro groups etc. etc...

In your etc etc are you including Obama's buddy Bill Ayers and the Weatherman that bombed the Pentagon and maybe even the Obama supported Occupy Wall Streeters that are destroying public parks in every city they decide to squat in. I wouldn't want you to forget these two upstanding groups in your list of EXTREMISTS. just because your hero has connections to them.
 

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