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Traveler

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Marine banned from daughter's school after, what else, but objecting to pro Islamic assignment.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/31/marine-dad-upset-with-assignment-on-islam-banned-from-daughters-high-school/


And massive non-citizen voting in the "exact same state". Hmmmm.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/10/29/massive-non-citizen-voting-uncovered-in-maryland/
 
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Anonymous

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I guess under the marines definition- schools could never teach about the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust or half of world history that is tied to religions...
The dumbing down of America ! Everyone has their pet "right" they think is being violated....
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Oldtimer said:
I guess under the marines definition- schools could never teach about the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust or half of world history that is tied to religions...
The dumbing down of America ! Everyone has their pet "right" they think is being violated....

Did you even read the article? :???:
 

Broke Cowboy

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Oldtimer said:
I guess under the marines definition- schools could never teach about the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust or half of world history that is tied to religions...
The dumbing down of America ! Everyone has their pet "right" they think is being violated....

Not too sure if this will be up for long as it might get mod'd out - but I am back on solid ground and have been for a bit. Leaving for Mali if all goes according to plan - probably just after Christmas (can we still say that word?) unless the plans change. Contract is yet to be awarded.

So oh large one:

Perhaps you might want to point out the benefits of islam for the rest of us before you start to deflect from your completely out in left field example.

Please. Can you kindly do this? And let's try to keep it applicable to today as possible - after all I have, and no one does - any control over something that happened prior to my/your birth.

The Marine has seen some of the attached below and sees it permeating your society and growing in the west - especially Euro countries - where you have probably never been - simply because of people like you who stand for nothing unless it is to tear down your own society.

If he thought the teachers would also tell the other side of the story I am sure he would have been less upset.

I can just see all the islamics and imams lining up to go into that school to tell the younth about the goodness of their religion - and never forget - it is not just a religion - it is a culture - EVERYTHING evolves around sharia.

And they WANT CONVERTS - where best to find them but in a school at a school approved session?

In fact I believe you still bow down to your Prez oblunder despite him bowing to those who would glady kill you.

Did you know Norway is expelling islamics due to criminal behaviour?

Did you know a huge demographic group of males in Sweden prisons is now islamic males? The crime is rape.

Did you know Lebanon used to be a Christian country until it opened its doors to islamic refugees?

Can you please point out one western country in Europe that has seen successful immigration of islamics into their country? Please tell me!

Have you ever googled "How islam will destroy Europe?"

Can you point out why islamics would create "no go" zones in Euro cities to prevent access by western people?

Can you please tell me why welfare roles are increasing at an alarming rate in Euro countries? Do you know the demographic group that leads this charge?

Have you even done any due diligence or are you simply relying upon emotion and what you "have heard?"

Your country is next - look to your southern border to see it coming.

Canada is also in the soup - because of apologists like you.

I know - I have spent more than my share of time cleaning up messes that you and that princess expert who used to hang around here tell me are "one off" and "not an example of islam".

So remember this:

While the radical cuts off your head, the moderate stands there watching and silently does nothing.

There are no moderates - just quiet ones.

That quiet acceptance and tacit approval of islamic actions and terror is everywhere - the miniscule percentage of islamics that tell you they do not approve of those actions is so tiny as to be insignificant.

Name me one islamic country you would like to live in if you were forced to leave your country. Please.

I am sure you will think that Marine and I are bigots. I can assure you we are realists.

So - oh wonderful Largess - again - please, educate us on the benfits of islam and even more importantly - why the Marine was a bad guy?

Personally - despite not knowing him - I think people should be lining up to shake his hand.

Enjoy the stuff below - some of it is nothing more than interviews - but there is a bit of spice there as well.

It is ALL educational.

I look forward to seeing your well thought out response - if you can do that.

I am not holding my breathe though.

I begin to see why so many despise you - I wonder why you would not either attempt to change, or at least attempt to make a comment that is reasonable and/or pertinent to the issue at hand.

I am still a bit beat up so I am off to relax.

One quick reminder - this discussion came about because of the school wanting to teach the BENEFITS of islam - so try to stay on topic. History and diverting is not applicable - tell us about the benefits of this culture - because it is more than the narrow topic of religion - if you can.

Best to all

BC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDrgSTiBY2k

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/video-islamic-state-stones-young-woman-accused-adultery

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/shocking-video-of-radical-islam-in-canadian-schoolhttp://www.israelvideonetwork.com/shocking-video-of-radical-islam-in-canadian-school

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NTz8Ed-djhg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLE_yGMBdUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVarDMOXJ-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU13D4ZPtQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpM6QKaAgP0

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=698996990181639RBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPefjuIPpbY

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=176_1364022789
 
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Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
I guess under the marines definition- schools could never teach about the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust or half of world history that is tied to religions...
The dumbing down of America ! Everyone has their pet "right" they think is being violated....

Did you even read the article? :???:

Yes I did-- and if you start removing religions from History-- you've lost half the history of the world... Many of the happenings- wars, conquests, spread of civilization, etc. involved religion...
Should we no longer teach how many of our forefathers (pilgrims, puritans, etc.) came to the America's to escape religious persecution? Or with the Spanish Priests settling the southwest? That's all about religion too...

Good , Bad, or whatever you think of religion-- or Islam-- you can't just stick your head in the sand and deny its involvement in the last 1400 years of the worlds history ...
 
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Anonymous

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Well broke cowboy- I went to the first 2 of your sites and all I got was 404 does not exist... The third was an hour long by someone I have no idea who he is...

It doesn't matter- as this is not about whether you like or hate Islam, Christianity or Hindu... The issue is whether religion as it played out in history can be taught in our public schools-- and I say yes...

Just because this marine or you hate Islam does not mean Islam and all the historical issues around the Muslim religion should not/can not be taught... The next father coming to school may be a neo-Nazi anti-semite and not want anything about the Holocaust taught... If we begin allowing every parent to decide what exactly should be taught to their kid in school- we would have chaos...

Actually to me this is just another FOX News overblown shock media to stir hate and fear article... I definitely would like to see the entire test... There is no question that Islam did some positive things in the settlement of the world- just like Christianity did in different areas... And both had negative impact too...

Its like I have said over and over on here-- if you folks from the radical right don't like what is being taught your kids- why aren't more of you going into the teaching profession... Or getting on the school boards... You're main claim seems to be that most teachers/Administrators/Schools are Liberals- WHY?

Maybe the radical right needs to dig deep and start their own schools- then they are free to teach whatever their money backers tell them to... Then they can dumb down America even faster... :roll:
 

Mike

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Maybe the radical right needs to dig deep and start their own schools- then they are free to teach whatever their money backers tell them to... Then they can dumb down America even faster...

We've had our own schools since 1966. Nothing radical about it. The money backers are the parents.

They are also much superior to the public schools in the area, have a much higher graduation rate, and get NO funding from the gov't.

Even though these parents pay all of the school taxes towards public schools, they get none of the benefits. NOTHING!!!

Meanwhile, the black run public school system is in turmoil in several avenues. The changing of student test grades to meet federal standards of achievement is the current bombshell.

http://www.aisaonline.org/main.html
 

Faster horses

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I have no idea how you can defend your 'thoughts/opinion' against BC, who has BEEN THERE!! And thank you, BC, for your continued service!

OT, you said this: " There is no question that Islam did some positive things in the settlement of the world- just like Christianity did in different areas...".
Lets have some proof of that statement, otherwise it is just YOUR OPINION.
I don't believe it, yet you say "there is no question". Maybe not in your
mind....but I fear you are fooling yourself...and trying to fool others... and
while you are at it, would you mind telling us what Islam has done that
has been GOOD for America or our greatest ally, Canada?
 

Mike

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OT wrote:
There is no question that Islam did some positive things in the settlement of the world.

Name one. The world was already settled when Mohammed supposedly ascended into heaven on horseback. There were inhabitants on every continent except maybe Antarctica.

For Islam to attempt to dominate the rest of the world (outside of Arabia) for monetary gain, power, and the sexual satisfaction of men alone is/was not positive.

Are you as stupid as you seem?

I am all for teaching about Islam if the truth is told. Your view is not the truth. :roll:
 

Broke Cowboy

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I will say it again - Please give us the BENEFITS of ISLAM

And you can stuff this comment up your azz if you do not address the question as put directly to you.

"The issue is whether religion as it played out in history can be taught in our public schools--"

It is not religion - you need to get that through your head.

Come on fat man - surely that vacant look in your eyes while sitting in the boat is not a real picture - there must be some intelligence hiding there somewhere.

Tell us - what are the benefits of islam - in todays terms - not 1400 years ago time frame.

In fact I have one - and I will tell you - but only if you start.

I am on the road again - picking up some stuff for a returning injured person I happen to know - will check the urls tonight.

Watch the ones that work - you will learn something.

Answer the question - What are the recent and overriding benefits of islam?

LOL You can't - LOL

And that is why you have no street credibility - you duck, dodge and divert and avoid.

Last chance - or I write you off - yet again - as not worth worrying about. I wonder why I even try to have any dialogue with you - it is like trying to talk to a wet, moss covered rock at times.

Benefits of islam?

I think I will just find a way to block you if you do not answer - make my life less annoying.

Benefits of islam?

Best to all

BC
 
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Faster horses said:
I have no idea how you can defend your 'thoughts/opinion' against BC, who has BEEN THERE!! And thank you, BC, for your continued service!

OT, you said this: " There is no question that Islam did some positive things in the settlement of the world- just like Christianity did in different areas...".
Lets have some proof of that statement, otherwise it is just YOUR OPINION.
I don't believe it, yet you say "there is no question". Maybe not in your
mind....but I fear you are fooling yourself...and trying to fool others... and
while you are at it, would you mind telling us what Islam has done that
has been GOOD for America or our greatest ally, Canada?

I'm not going to get into an argument of goods and bads- plus's and minus's of Islam, Christianity, Judaism--my God there are dozens of threads on here over that...

As far as your question on what good did Islam do for America- I ask what good did Christianity or any religion for that matter do for America? There have been Muslims in the America's since the 1500's- some fought in the revolutionary war- civil war- etc., etc... Many were brought over as slaves... Did the slaves do good for America? Just like with Christians, Jews, atheists, some individual Muslims have been successful and some have not.... Some good- some not...
Your question is like asking what good have Catholics done? By which Catholic individual(s) do we make your judgement? Are Mormons really all evil cultists as some radical right Evangelical sects have made them out to be? Are my Mormon friends that are pillars of the community exceptions to the religion?
Or should I fear them because some extremist group does?
 

Mike

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OT wrote:
I'm not going to get into an argument of goods and bads- plus's and minus's of Islam.

Just the good ones please. Or "positive(s)" as you say.

Let's have them......................... :roll:

Waiting
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Faster horses said:
I have no idea how you can defend your 'thoughts/opinion' against BC, who has BEEN THERE!! And thank you, BC, for your continued service!

OT, you said this: " There is no question that Islam did some positive things in the settlement of the world- just like Christianity did in different areas...".
Lets have some proof of that statement, otherwise it is just YOUR OPINION.
I don't believe it, yet you say "there is no question". Maybe not in your
mind....but I fear you are fooling yourself...and trying to fool others... and
while you are at it, would you mind telling us what Islam has done that
has been GOOD for America or our greatest ally, Canada?

I'm not going to get into an argument of goods and bads- plus's and minus's of Islam, Christianity, Judaism--my God there are dozens of threads on here over that...

As far as your question on what good did Islam do for America- I ask what good did Christianity or any religion for that matter do for America? There have been Muslims in the America's since the 1500's- some fought in the revolutionary war- civil war- etc., etc... Many were brought over as slaves... Did the slaves do good for America? Just like with Christians, Jews, atheists, some individual Muslims have been successful and some have not.... Some good- some not...
Your question is like asking what good have Catholics done? By which Catholic individual(s) do we make your judgement? Are Mormons really all evil cultists as some radical right Evangelical sects have made them out to be? Are my Mormon friends that are pillars of the community exceptions to the religion?
Or should I fear them because some extremist group does?

OT just admitted he'd flunk that high school test.
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Well broke cowboy- I went to the first 2 of your sites and all I got was 404 does not exist... The third was an hour long by someone I have no idea who he is...

It doesn't matter- as this is not about whether you like or hate Islam, Christianity or Hindu... The issue is whether religion as it played out in history can be taught in our public schools-- and I say yes...

Just because this marine or you hate Islam does not mean Islam and all the historical issues around the Muslim religion should not/can not be taught... The next father coming to school may be a neo-Nazi anti-semite and not want anything about the Holocaust taught... If we begin allowing every parent to decide what exactly should be taught to their kid in school- we would have chaos...

Actually to me this is just another FOX News overblown shock media to stir hate and fear article... I definitely would like to see the entire test... There is no question that Islam did some positive things in the settlement of the world- just like Christianity did in different areas... And both had negative impact too...

Its like I have said over and over on here-- if you folks from the radical right don't like what is being taught your kids- why aren't more of you going into the teaching profession... Or getting on the school boards... You're main claim seems to be that most teachers/Administrators/Schools are Liberals- WHY?

Maybe the radical right needs to dig deep and start their own schools- then they are free to teach whatever their money backers tell them to... Then they can dumb down America even faster... :roll:

Would you please get off your gd intellectually-dishonest high horse re right wingers and teachers.

There are millions of good teachers all over the nation and there are millions of lousy teachers as well, many of whom have agendas that don't coincide with what the parents believe should be taught their kids. And what most right wingers abhor OT are the teacher's unions, the ones which fight tooth and nail to stop efforts to test teacher competency, to weed out the failing teachers....and there are many. But no sir, once you're in the teacher's union system, you're a lifer.

Finally, as Mike has pointed out, millions on the right have spoken with their dollars and funded private schools where they can have some control over what's taught their kids.....allthewhile being forced to pay taxes to fund public schools. And thousands more become teachers themselves and take on the task of home-schooling their kids because they believe the public school system has completely failed them.

You yourself should have spent more time in a quality classroom or perhaps taken on the task of home schooling your kids. Then maybe you'd have learned the proper use of the gd apostrophe and wouldn't be spending thousands of your hard-earned dollars bailing your drug-addicted daughter out of trouble.
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
Not to distract from the ducking and dodging..... :lol: The guy can't ever answer a real question.


But the truth of the matter, is that teaching is a stepping stone job for most capable people. Not all, but most. I know of at least 10 people in my extended family alone that started out teaching and moved on to jobs that they could support themselves better with. You are left with some that just want to teach, and others that just aren't capable of doing much in the real world. Like WW said, I knew plenty that migrated toward teaching cause other things didn't pan out.

Not all teachers are leftists either OT. I'd let my wife on here, but the rate at which you'd fall after she knocked you off your high horse would likely leave Montana with the 8th natural wonder of the world, and you already complain about all the outsiders visiting.... except for the ones visiting the federally controlled lands right? :lol:

And yes, she's moving on as well and obtaining a post-graduate degree.

But to some up her feelings on the matter, the school system is inherently socialist. It is a services that is provided by the government for free to everyone. Therefor, you get the problems of a socialist system. It is compounded by the fact that many locations require teachers to become members of organizations that may use their fees against their personal beliefs to make propaganda for the public and to confuse other teachers. To obtain insurance to protect them against law suits, many join a union they don't believe in.

Many want better conditions for students, but don't understand how to create those conditions so they listen to a socialist that the kids need more money, when they need to spend what they have more wisely and kids need to be challenged.

I guarantee you that every teacher understands that money is wasted. They all know that you have to spend money somewhere (often not where they need it) or it will not be available the next year. Most also understand that curriculum has done nothing but deteriorate over the past several years and become so diluted it is practically worthless.

There is a reason that my wife who taught in the public schools in 2 different states, wants her children in private school.

Now back to the regularly scheduled question dodging.
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
On Dr. Laura recently, a caller was trying to decide whether to send her daughter to public school or private school. Dr. Laura's answer was, "if you want to settle for mediocracy send her to public school."
 

loomixguy

Well-known member
Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Well broke cowboy- I went to the first 2 of your sites and all I got was 404 does not exist... The third was an hour long by someone I have no idea who he is...

It doesn't matter- as this is not about whether you like or hate Islam, Christianity or Hindu... The issue is whether religion as it played out in history can be taught in our public schools-- and I say yes...

Just because this marine or you hate Islam does not mean Islam and all the historical issues around the Muslim religion should not/can not be taught... The next father coming to school may be a neo-Nazi anti-semite and not want anything about the Holocaust taught... If we begin allowing every parent to decide what exactly should be taught to their kid in school- we would have chaos...

Actually to me this is just another FOX News overblown shock media to stir hate and fear article... I definitely would like to see the entire test... There is no question that Islam did some positive things in the settlement of the world- just like Christianity did in different areas... And both had negative impact too...

Its like I have said over and over on here-- if you folks from the radical right don't like what is being taught your kids- why aren't more of you going into the teaching profession... Or getting on the school boards... You're main claim seems to be that most teachers/Administrators/Schools are Liberals- WHY?

Maybe the radical right needs to dig deep and start their own schools- then they are free to teach whatever their money backers tell them to... Then they can dumb down America even faster... :roll:

Would you please get off your gd intellectually-dishonest high horse re right wingers and teachers.

There are millions of good teachers all over the nation and there are millions of lousy teachers as well, many of whom have agendas that don't coincide with what the parents believe should be taught their kids. And what most right wingers abhor OT are the teacher's unions, the ones which fight tooth and nail to stop efforts to test teacher competency, to weed out the failing teachers....and there are many. But no sir, once you're in the teacher's union system, you're a lifer.

Finally, as Mike has pointed out, millions on the right have spoken with their dollars and funded private schools where they can have some control over what's taught their kids.....allthewhile being forced to pay taxes to fund public schools. And thousands more become teachers themselves and take on the task of home-schooling their kids because they believe the public school system has completely failed them.

You yourself should have spent more time in a quality classroom or perhaps taken on the task of home schooling your kids. Then maybe you'd have learned the proper use of the gd apostrophe and wouldn't be spending thousands of your hard-earned dollars bailing your drug-addicted daughter out of trouble.

Top contender for post of the year in my book. :clap: :clap: :clap: :nod:
 
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