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Spying on Americans

Steve

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FBI's Illegal Carnivore Runs Amuck With Congress & Public - Government Activity


Carnivore is a name given to a system implemented by the Federal Bureau of Investigation that is analogous to wiretapping except in this case it is email that is being tapped instead of telephone conversations. It is a form of policeware.

U.S. Government officials will confirm or deny little about the physical or logical workings of Carnivore,
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/carnivorequestions.html


But it was not nearly as bad as the"ECHELON", "Clipper Chip" or was it?

So if you were worried about GW Bush Spying on international calls, then you would be really worried about the programs Clinton, Gore and Reno trompled on our rights to impliment......

or Dragonet?
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/dragonnetproposal.html
or Omnivore?
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/omnivoreproposal.html

When you start loking it is amazing how much Clinton, Gore, and Reno were spying on US.....why weren't the liberals whining then about our privacy?

oops they were already investigating Clinton's dirty little secret in Nov. of 2000......
http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/jud_comm.html

No comment, don't like blacked out facts???? When they come from those who decieved US all,,Clinton,Gore and Reno it's a differant story?
 

Disagreeable

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Steve said:
No comment, don't like blacked out facts???? When they come from those who decieved US all,,Clinton,Gore and Reno it's a differant story?

ROTFLMAO! If they're blacked out how do you know they're facts? (Shaking with laughter, by the way.)
 
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Anonymous

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Dis- If you ever made or received a call to or from anywhere outside the country there is a good chance you have been recorded- BUT- If your conversation did not contain "key" words and or phrases or was not to or from "key" individuals it was probably never examined.....
 

Disagreeable

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Oldtimer said:
Dis- If you ever made or received a call to or from anywhere outside the country there is a good chance you have been recorded- BUT- If your conversation did not contain "key" words and or phrases or was not to or from "key" individuals it was probably never examined.....

First, it's not just outside the country. The link I posted showed they're also eavesdropping on domestic calls. Second, how do you know my calls were not examined if they didn't contain "key" words? Because George W. Bush said so? That's a laugh. He's not been truthful about this program. Why should anyone believe him now? He lied when he reassured the American people that wiretapping required a warrant. Even a Conserative columnist in my local newspaper has concerns about this program. You should too.
 

theHiredMansWife

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Even a Conserative columnist in my local newspaper has concerns about this program

What do you mean "even"?
Considering conservatives are supposed to desire less government in their person lives, this makes sense... *shrug*
 

Disagreeable

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theHiredMansWife said:
Even a Conserative columnist in my local newspaper has concerns about this program

What do you mean "even"?
Considering conservatives are supposed to desire less government in their person lives, this makes sense... *shrug*

This particular columnist is a Bush Groupie, like a lot of people on this board. Yet, even he has concerns. Yes, Conservatives used to stand for fiscal responsibility and less intrusive government. Today it's the Democrats crying about our Federal deficit and wiretapping of American citizens. Amazing what five years of George has done for this country.
 

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